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Pilchesky brought the original suit against Council President Gatelli. She countersued. They should be kept seperated while she is doing city business. As long as the "hundred or so Scranton Tax-Payers" remain "anonymous", city business can't very well be halted (as if slowing down progress any more would even be noticable...) just because one of the speakers may be John Doe #56 or whatever. Your twisting of the logic doesn't work here. Pilchesky hasn't appeared at council lately, as far as I know, and defendants Doe #1-100 are still technically unknown. Therefore, I've only said the Pilchesky's shouldn't be allowed in chambers, to this point.

If I sued you for whatever reason, do you really think it's a good idea for me to knowingly appear at your place of work week in and week out, harping on the reasoning for my lawsuit? That probably borders on harassment.


Paul...I'm not twisting anything here, as a matter of fact, I'm kind of agreeing with you. Again, I don't think Council Chambers is the time or place for those arguments, that's what a Courtroom is for, that's what I'm waiting for, seeing how I'm named in the suit. Banning anyone from chambers is unconstitutional, if anyone brings up the topic of the suit at a meeting, they should be instructed that it's under litigation and cannot be talked about, if they continue they should be gaveled out of order and asked to step down, but there is no reason to ban anybody.

One last thing, I no longer have Comcast, has anyone even brought up these suits inside of Council Chambers?...Jimbu15.



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The reason for naming over 100 names on that suit is because they know JOe is about 75 of them. They want him embarrased. They want his dirty name dragged through the mud some more. I hope he gets his already ****ty reputation destroyed by this. I hope he goes to council aand make a fool out of himself. He will attempt to sound like a tom Clancy novel but he can't hide his hick, uneducated, poor white trash self. Anyone who has met him can see right through.


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If Joe can sit quietly and behave, then fine, let him in. But remember that he is a party in a lawsuit against the body he is there observing. He's traded some of his freedoms for the freedom to sue. That's the way it's always been. In order to be granted certain rights, you must give up others. He has the right to speak before Council, and he has the right to sue any or all of it's members. He should not get both at the same time. Fair?

edit: And we've all seen/heard just how effective gavelling someone out of order is...


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If Joe can sit quietly and behave, then fine, let him in. But remember that he is a party in a lawsuit against the body he is there observing. He's traded some of his freedoms for the freedom to sue. That's the way it's always been. In order to be granted certain rights, you must give up others. He has the right to speak before Council, and he has the right to sue any or all of it's members. He should not get both at the same time. Fair?

edit: And we've all seen/heard just how effective gavelling someone out of order is...


-- Edited by Paul at 11:58, 2007-07-31


Paul...Touche'....Jimbu15.



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Well Clarence got a draw on his website lawsuit so he is now 1 win 1 draw for 30 lol. I wonder why he gave up? I though he had a hands down winner, as far as I know you only settle when the outcome is in question. Strange!! Maybe he didn't want to be disposed...something to hide? Hummmmm lots of questions! Love to know the details of that "deal" LOL LOL LOL Way to blink Clarence!! LOL LOL

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He is awfully subdued for someone who just stuck it to the PSP and DA's office. Maybe that "victory" came with some conditions which could be very easily violated on his part, nullifying the agreement? Sounds like maybe the big dog, while not necessarily being chained to the porch, was fitted with a shock collar.

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Exactly what I have been thinking. I also noticed his last couple of posts about Cordaro seem to be backpeddling a bit... something doesn't smell right! I think someone got their nose slapped good! :) Hey Art what are you hearing anything?

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Fighting for the People or Fighting for your OWN WALLET ?

Undisclosed Settlement = Personal Gain

Publics Right to Freedom of Speech Action can not equal Publics Lack of Knowledge of Case Disposition!!!
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blah blah blah...

WHAT HAVE THEY SHOWN US(THE PEOPLE)?

SETTLEMENTS NOT PUBLICLY DISCLOSED, SERVE NOONE BUT THE PARTIES INVOLVED!

WHAT HAS IT DONE FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD?



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If I just came into a big chunk of money on the backs of others, that I had no intentions at all of sharing, I wouldn't be too chatty about it either. Maybe he does have a bit of a conscience after all.

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Nope... I don't think it was a settlement that favored him, his ego wouldn't allow him to not at least to throw out a crumb of info, no I suspect the settlement was not at all to his liking.

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So Deleware are you saying that Joey helped out the other side? Joey who had seemed to think he had everyone by the short hairs went in to court and let the other side dictate the terms of the settlement? Why? If he had such a clear cut case why settle at all? Why not go through the case? What happened? Settlements occur only when the outcome of the court case is uncertain, or when the cost of the litigation is more than the compensation of the successful outcome, or perhaps when the party realizes they may have to divulge information they prefer to keep private and so on. So since Joey was fighting for the people, for their right to viciously attack others simply for the sake of the pleasure they get in doing it, we know it wasnt about compensation right?So what really happened?


Dont be naive Deleware; unless, of course, you believe Joey just wanted to help out the DA and PSP and laid down for them, he must have got something out of the settlement! What exactly he got (or what exactly it would have cost him if he didnt settle) is unknown for the moment. but in time information will come out, it always does eventually! Hum hum hum burning questions still lingering, and inquiring minds want to know!


DelewarePosts: 441Date: Aug 9 3:09 AM, 2007Views: 180Quote | ReplyRE: WHO SAID THEY WON????? Get a life you jerk, if you knew diddlie about a case like this you can be sure it was the other side who demanded no telling what happened. They have a lot to lose in this starting with reputation.Do you really think that Jurbola would want anyone to find out that his office screwed up in a big way violating the US Constitution?Do you really think that the Hailstones would ever allow the truth to come out there? How a sitting magistrate used her position to pressure the Pa. State Police to take action, illegal action, to violate the US Constitution? How to protect her baby sister's illicit behavior, she, the magistrate used her robe to start this whole ball rolling!As for big bucks, hey, I don't see you putting yourself out there. If you have the stones to file, go ahead. There is plenty of crooked antics going on in Scranton, never mind in the county, state or national level.I am sure you can find something...how about the malfeasance of office going on in city hall for starters.



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Joe reminds of this kid in my neighborhood when I was growing up. The kid would pick fights with everyone, everyday. He would then proceed to get pounded to a pulp every time by every other kid. Never won a fight. Funny thing is he always bragged about how many fights he picked and how no one ever knocked him out. Glass half full guy I guess, just like Joe.

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un-huh -- what's the other guy look like???

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Well if nothing else he has the doubletalk of a real lawyer down pat. He sure is doing a lot of dancing for a man who "won". Lets see if we can decipher** some of this nonsense.
** Disclaimer this is a satirical interpretation of a public figures comments and in no way should be considered actually true <laughing> Dang Joey no lawsuit here either darn it! Love that freedom of speech and freedom of humor

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Still not sold 100%, but fair enough!
What if the details were disclosed? I'm in control of what I do, when I do it, where I do it, and to whom I do it to, anyway. Non-Disclosure is moot point. We're independent political activists. We sued as private parties. I could file ten more lawsuits tomorrow or walk away. In other wordsmind your own business! I will tell YOU when to ask questions and of whom to ask them, until then just shut up.Oh you could bow down a few times and say how much of a man I am I really love that stuff.. go ahead say it! Listen to me, and shut up among other things, we're here to kill the careers of corrupt politicians. We've been doing this for nearly three years. Practically non-stop. Research and preparation of these lawsuits is a full time demand.And while we have not accomplished one thing positive for the city after all that time is still none of your business and again I will tell YOU what you need to think and what you need to say (see the PM I just sent you for the full script) Researching things we don't sue over, but provides information, is a full time demand.You have any idea how much coffee and time I consume at the diner getting research information you ingrate! There is no paycheck at the end of the week. Coffee aint cheap you know! Do we get hammered financially? Yep. How could we not? However, we are not materialistic people. We are neither amused or entertained by social toys. We pulled that distraction called cable TV over two years ago and discovered ourselves. Ok Ok maybe we forgot to pay a few bills but beyond that it was our idea to not have cable! We're remote-controlled free.And unfortunately for everyone else medication free, as well Try it. I said TRY IT ...do what you are told! We're people who live life through the heart. That's our energy source. We exploit and challenge our own intelligence, What I really mean is we exploit others who are intelligence challenged does the name Ray Lyman mean anything to you? perseverence and dedication, and attendant boundaries. We study law books relentlessly. Not so much the spelling books I am afraid. LThat's what we will pass on to our children and grandchildren. Not to mention passing on the idea that it is ok to attack people who you dont agree with and drag their children and grandchildren into the mess, aint we great parents? Money is green paper with numbers on it. It's a necessary weapon under these circumstances, as you can understand, but we find this exciting and stimluating, so we walked away from our sources of income. We are now addicted to what we do. We couldn't stop if we wanted to. We could do this out of a tent next to a creek. That's the enjoyment we get out of it. Wow those last sentences are so over the top scary I cant even think of anything funny to say its pathetic and frightening! Win or lose. Will the well run dry one of these days? Yep, so we will have to consider a way to fund this political activity or that tent will become a reality.SEND US CASH this last nose slapping cost us big time! Until then, we have each other.Thanks heavens right? Saves two other poor unsuspecting fools getting stuck with us. My wife is an emotionally strong, supportive, bra-burning, campus protester from way back.Yikes and does she have long hair on her legs and armpits!! LOL LOL J/K kitten you know I love that look! She met a thief. After the first night together, she turned to me and said, "You really are a thief, my depression is gone." I know that sentence makes no sense but I love calling myself a thief it sounds so cool!! She's a computer wiz.She has a magic scannertoo! I have a tendency to take up a fight where other people are being abused. I cant resist getting in on the action to abuse someone! The rest is history. We're here to stay. That's all that you need to know. Again shut up and ask only the questions I sent you in that PM. Always remember I am good! Doherty is bad! The good Lord has provided everything we've needed thus far, he'll provide the rest, even if it's a quality tent. I fully trust the good Lord will indeed grant you exactly what you so richly deserve.J



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its getting to the point now where the outcomes dont matter because joe is not powerful and the people he sues are. If he is successful at doing something to them they will retailiate with a voctory on another frount. Joe is not the only peson doing such things. He just has a web site that a few people read. in th eimmortal words of Ron Burgandy "you know, i'm kinda a bog deal" well Mr. Pil no you are not.

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Now we are getting somewhere...:) So if this were to be true what he got basically was an agreement for the DA to simply follow the existing laws for getting private information.LOL LOL Wow you are a tough one LOL LOL That's the way Clarence hold out for the tough ruling. Oh it occurs to me it also covers his butt (assuming this is true of course) when he hands over the IP addresses of his posters he can claim the "devil made me do it" LOL LOL This is getting very interesting.

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Word out of the DA's Office is that you're settlement with them was strictly about a demand for strongly worded policy that they wouldn't take any action against you or this site without going through certain legal channels like getting a court order and so on. No money because they weren't actually the ones who shut your site down. True of false?


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Damn, all that and Pilchesky's victory prize is a strongly worded policy????

Excuse me while I go laugh myself into a coma.

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It's written in ink and not crayon, right?

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UPDATE!!

I've heard from a very reliable source that in addition to the strongly worded statement from the Pennsylvania State Police, serial-plaintiff Pilchesky is also to be given a coupon entitling him to a free regular sized frozen treat at either the Scranton or Dunmore locations of Rita's Italian Ice. No word on whether or not the coupon has an expiration date.

I'll keep the group posted.

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From the serial-plaintiff's mouth...

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No shoes for baby, at least not here. That 50K went to the lawyers. They earned every penny of it. The paperwork was four feet off the floor. The DA agreed to the policy terms but was adamant, NO MONEY FOR THE PILCHESKYS. We could have dragged them through the process and put them in front of a jury, but their culpability was limited and we wanted closure on the policy language as soon as possible for the obvious reasons. The lawyers got paid, we got an injunction and precedent at law, and we also have protection that when we click on the message board, we won't find it gone with its valuable cargo. The non-ACLU lawyers, from what I understand, donated all of their fees to the ACLU.


So what can we learn from this? How about...

...contrary to what 'The Shed' said, it was only $50k
...that didn't go to Pilchesky
...that instead went to the lawyers...why? because they did the actual work...so much for Pilchesky winning.

The bottom line is this: Pilcheksy and his thugs screwed up last year with the Hailstone postings, but the Pennsylvania State Police screwed up too by failing to play by the rules. Of course Pilchesky didn't want this to go to trial, as it would would dredge out all of the scum that inhabits the DD site. In a the mind of many jurors, rabid, hate-filled rumor mongering would probably be viewed as being worse than a procedureal screw-up on the part of the Pennsylvania State Police. So what does the bald, bitter one do? He get's the ACLU to help (I have mixed feelings about the ACLU...but that's another thread), and, as they are real lawyers, and they negotiate a settlement for him that makes this go away.

Pilchesky should enjoy the ^5s from his zombies and the free coupon from Rita's, as that's all he really gets out of this whole situation.


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Dang it ....Clarence bit it on another lawsuit!!Complexcasecrashes and burns! Ok so were do we stand at this point. I know we have been using the "30" number as how many lawsuits he has filed, but hell it has to be higher than that by now. I think until we have the actual number to be fair we will use 35.

1 win ( a gift )
1 tie (but he did score a STRONGLY worded policy out of the 'deal" SWEET!)
33are lost, tossed, or pending. Wow what a record! I don't know about anyone else but I think he is wasting his natural talent he should get his law degree and bring his talents to the masses!!! NOT! biggrinbiggrin

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Law dregree? I think he should go back to medical school and be the first surgeon of his kind to perform the risky rectal-cranial inversion on his very own self.

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I love when this jerk goes off on a rant, it gives me so much to work with it's almost not fair really! LOL LOL

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If Stacy Brown, or DA Jarbola, read the press releases, as well as this board, they'd know that I never claimed that I got a dimefrom anyone. Actually as you wouldn't say anything at first no one 'knew" anything at first, remember mr. coy? Andy coughed up the 50K to the ACLU, but it could have been 250K, or much more. I made the decision to "settle" the lawsuit for strong policy language against authorities like the DA's office. It was my choice, not Jarbola's. Your choice huh? The ACLU lawyers were doing as you TOLD them to do, were they? Sure Clarence, I am sure that is true. I could have just as easily dragged the DA and his bunch of crony co-conspirators before a federal jury and squeezed sweat out of them like juice out of an orange. I could have just as easily forced legal action to take place in England and Canada, which would have cost the DA a ton of money in legal fees. I could have just as easily allowed, even demanded, the deposition of all of the Hailstones and put them on the stand for no other reason than disgrace them publicly and have it on the record. I could have dragged Doherty into it easily, just to prove that he's so corrupt that the real purpose of shutting the board down was to protect him, not Sara Hailstone. Jarbola is the head honcho down there. What his people did was under his watch. He caused the lawsuit with his lack of supervision and disrespect for the constitutional rights of the people who pay his salary. I could have made it a huge mess for Mr. Jarbola. Maybe I should have now that I see his attitude. Really? Then why didn't you Clarence? God knows it isnt because you are a nice guy, right? After all you remind all and sundry on a regular basis how bad ass you are, bad ass ya! More like fat ass if you ask me! You settled because you had no choice Clarence. I doubt if you even had any input into the decision. Funny how you were calling the shots (or so you claim) and the REAL lawyers got the cash. Ya that probably happened. OOO you are a bad ass and pretty stupid too. Isn't this the same DA who has fallen off nearly every bar stool in this town? Then, there's the younger woman thing?? He should zip it while he's still ahead. I'll take this article out on Stacy Brown in my own way. Throwing more threats and accusing people of vile actions again Joey? Keep typing my bald big mouth fool; keep typing, the file just thickens. :)
I told the federal judge that I did not want to see the taxpayers burdened to the tune of several hundred thousand dollars in legal fees alone. UH HUH yaaaaaaaaa sure you did! You are such a good-hearted person HA! Right! The ACLU, I'm quite sure, even cut him a break. The fees were higher than 50K. We all knew the DA would have had his clock cleaned in court. If I wanted that "dime" bad enough, it was there for the taking. A lot of dimes, for that matter. A litigant just south of us got 45K after suing a local sheriff for shutting down his site. I agreed to settle for the policy language because we, the people, need it now. I know big fella, you wild and crazy negotiator you held out for that STRONG language whoo hoo now we are saved..saved I tell you! It will also play a vital role in the Gatelli case. We needed our free speech protected right now, much more than I needed those "dimes". I may be wrong here, after all I am not a lawyer like you pretend to be, but, I am thinking threats and intimidation probably don't fall under the free speech thing. So you better hope those "special comments" dont get classified as such, right Clarence?

It's a major victory for all of us. A victory would mean one side wins and the other side loses. A settlement means both sides walk away, so they take a draw. You really need to get a dictionary and look up these words. The Internet street corner and water cooler is here to stay, getting busier by the day. It needs to be free of fear of invasion and oppression by the authorities. This settlement makes it exactly that. If Jarbola doesn't think so, you watch how careful he'll be in the future with pulling the trigger on shutting any free speech down on this board. He's not going to touch it. If he does, it will demonstrate a malicious action that will net punitive damages. I'm talking millions. Millions I say Muhahhahahah rich.. I will be rich, I say. muhahhaha!! Well as long as you are only interested in free speech not lining your pockets ehhh Joey?? Andy Jarbola can run his crony mouth all day long. Let him shut this board down again, or even participate in shutting it down, and see what happens. I'll have that crony ass of his for breakfast, lunch and dinner in federal court the day he does it.Just like this time, I will take his butt to court and settle for no money and strong language that will fix him!! Cause I am a bad ass that's right a bad ass!! Some DA he is, unless DA really means Drunk on my Ass. Wow Joey can bold the letters in a sentence to spell out a secret message I am so unworthy!! LOL LOL LOL

Here's what is worth more than a dime: He paid the 50K, and in his own words at the urging of the insurance company. Whoo well thats the "smokin gun" right there, because insurance companies never settle cases as opposed to spending their time or money going to court. NOOOOO they never do that, except everyday for everything. You *******! What does that statement say? It says they can do math, if it will cost them more to win a case then they will collect when they win, they settle. Its simple math you should try it sometime, you idiot! Pay now and get out while Pilchesky is letting you out, for whatever reasons. Oh ya and they knew you are a bad ass hahahhahah!! I obtained a federal injuction against the DA. It's framed on my office wall. OOO is it right next to your framed picture of Jan and the Missus? LOL LOL That put him in his place. Yup you sure did! He is still the DA and you are still a jerk. Yup you were very successful in making sure everyone got in their rightful places. There won't be any courtesy considerations if there's a round two over our free speech. Oh I would agree and you should remember that Darling! You got a pass. I wouldn't count on that again. He pulls that crap again and we're going the full distance. He'll pay. And, as a little cherry on top of the major victory for protection for our internet free speech, I'll remember Mr. Jarbola's disrespect for our free speech rights when he runs for judge. Uh Ohh do you think your voting block will be as successful on this as they were getting Doherty voted out of office and little Missy Jan voted into State office. HAAAhahahhaha

Nice article Stacy. So, I had no comment on Mr. Jarbola's comments? How would you know? We never talked about it, LIAR. That was the straw! I thought the last article Stacy wrote was the last straw? How many last straws do you have exactly?? Oh wait you are a bad ass maybe bad asses have two last straws? Not sure I will have to check that out!



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Well IHave ... there is the last straw ... and then there is the straw that broke the camels back ... that's usally the final straw ... he didn't get to the straw that broke the camels back yet ... but I'm sure it's coming if anyone in Scranton violates anyone's free speech on the internet ever again ... Oh that's right... Joey does this on a daily basis ... so I guess we will never get to that straw.

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Oh and I forgot ...

Can we all say

H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E!

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