OK so here we have come across some posts that has Joe calling for the names of police officers in the same fashion that he calls for info on politicians. Now he's adding them to the federal lawsuit that he is filing against Judy Gatelli and Sherry Fanucci ... are you kidding me ... they were doing their jobs ... they are at meetings to keep order ... I guess if he sues the police officers then we may just have a host of people suing ... get pulled over for a DUI ... sue ... get picked up on a burglary charge ... sue ... I think you get my drift ... OK so Fay didn't commit a crime ... however there are rules to be upheld at public meetings she was asked to comply ... she made a choice not to ... so the officers did their job ... How dare you sue them for that Mr. Pilchesky ... I think I want to sue you for filing frivolous lawsuits ... I wonder if that one will have merit I'm sure I would have standing as a concerned taxpayer in the city of Scranton ...you sir are costing me money and I am sick and tired
Read the posts below to see what has angered me so much ... Joe and his little (I think it's an alternate screen name of Joe's) Seethedeception ... discuss the adding of the police officers to the lawsuit ... the are :nuts:
Joe Pilchesky Posts: 251 Date: Mon Dec 18 8:50 AM, 2006 Views: 274
The two that escorted the man from the council meeting at West Side, and the two that escorted Fay from the podium last week. Anyone? They will be named with SS Gatelli in the federal suit I'm putting together regarding numerous constitutional issues.
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Joe,
For what its worth, I think the cops are pawns in the game....If you need to name them do what you must, but I hope they are dismissed down the road...they are between a rock and a hard place...You know the petty wrath of Doherty.......
Joe Pilchesky Posts: 251 Date: Mon Dec 18 11:28 AM, 2006 Views: 200
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It'll be up to the court to dismiss them. Both parties removed from the podiums, respectively at West Scranton and council chambers were actively participating in free speech expression well within the peramters of antagonistic expectation from the public on government policy issues or administration of the same. We have an extremely hostile administration with extremely hostile rubberstampers trying to dampen free speech in the presence of obvious corruption. At issue isn't only the two residents affected, it's the intimidation factor upon other residents who might want to speak up in an antagonistic nature. The mere presence of police power is sufficient to quell many speakers. They don't belong there. Gatelli doesn't belong there, either. This woman lacks the intelligence, dignity and integrity to be a councilwoman, let alone council president. Let her explain to the judge where she gets the authority to have police power smoother free speech. The judge will give her an earful, I guarantee it. The police can explain what they are doing attending council meetings in the first place, and further explain who directed them to comply with Gatelli's direction to silence the speakers during their presentation. Last time I checked, this is still America, although Gatelli has, by her conduct, shown herself to be a throwback to 1935, Nazi Germany. Enough of her insults and degradation of our constitutional rights. It's time to put her in her place, and then get busy getting her tossed out of that council seat for acts of corruption, dishonest services and unethical conduct. I suppose the promises of Doherty and company have blinded her to the fact that the public isn't the same old "tail between the legs" public.
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I agree with your general premise....
What are your thoughts on this? Let me know ... I am very curious to know!
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This is beyond pathetic...this is just plain insane. I really, honestly and truly think Pilchesky is going insane.
These two police officers were just doing their job...screw all this talk about 'pawns' and 'fearing the wrath of Doherty'. Let's see FOP President Stulgis or FOP Treasurer Ankorany (pardon the misspelling) dish some crap out to Pilchesky for this boner. Both seem to like to point out all of Mayor Doherty's failings, both real and imagined. Here we have a very real attack on FOP members. Step up boys and girls and protect your membership from this VERY REAL threat.
No police officer should have to fear a lawsuit simply for doing their job, period. What's next from Pilchesky, suing firemen for doing too much damage to a home while putting out a fire? Or perhaps he will sue the refuse collectors for denting his cans? This is lunacy, plain and simple.
-- Edited by Agamemnon at 22:01, 2006-12-18
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
I have not seen Nelson posting on DD these days as he is very easy to pick out ... he actually uses his name ... but I do think Stulgris is still at it as I have a feeling she is Bo Peep. She won't go against the Almighty Pill ... How could she do that ... he stands by her side while Hickey calls for her arrest if she doesn't return the Human Resource information that she has. How can she turn on the Powerful Pil ... Let me tell you this ... I'm sure it's not easy being a union official ... but damn you better get on this one because it is the Union's duty to pay for the defense of these 4 officers (2 from west High meeting and 2 from the meeting in Council Chambers) defense of this lawsuit as they were on duty at the time ... so let's see ... that would mean less money for arbitration's ... having to pay for a frivolous lawsuit ... wouldn't it? And with the SPD's luck ... this would drag on and on and then the Powerful Pil would win ... not because he's right ... but because you all have such bad luck.
See the Union does not bear the cost of an arbitration alone they are only required to bear the cost of half and then the city pays the other half of that bill ... but a lawsuit ... well that would be the responsibility of the Union ... to pay all of the legal fees involved the city would have no responsibility with this bill. Stulgris ... I think that you are the pawn in Joey's little game ... he's the one that's going to break your union ... Have you all ever considered (now this is just my opinion) that he may be a union buster ... Now that's something to think about isn't it?
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I am really starting to wonder if there is a fee paid when you drop off mental patients ... because we could all be rich if we gathered up these nuts ... I cannot believe ... the thoughts that are running through the heads of these (no other word for them) nuts concerning the actions of the police officers at last Thursday's meeting ... ... come on people get a GRIP! Take a look at these postings:
Pilcheskytics Posts: 9 Date: Mon Dec 18 8:53 PM, 2006 Views: 143 Quote | ReplyRE: Looking for the names of these cops:
I don't agree with it at all. What control would the president of council have if not to be able to silence a hostile podium speaker? Are the council members to just sit there and listen to the public lacing them with disturbing comments?
This poster is the sane one in the group ... so you sir/mam get the Prize for being the most level headed poster in this topic.
Granma Posts: 60 Date: Mon Dec 18 10:39 PM, 2006 Views: 84 Quote | ReplyRE: Looking for the names of these cops:
If the three council members did what what they were elected to do............... No one get's up to be hostile. All they want is to voice their opion. Get an answer when they ask the council a question. Very rarly they do get an answer, most is a snoddy remark back, or we don't have to answer that. And council feels they owe no one an explanation. Or even as much respect to listen to them. Judy feels she needs Police there to protect her !!!! We the people are the ones that need protection from council. The three great, Judy, Sherry and Mcgoff vote to keep Doherty happy. Or hide whatever he has done. We are the one's that are threatned by TAX, TAX and more TAX. YEA !!!! Judy has the help to get her through the meeting, (again at our expence). Who is going to help us pay for the over spending that Doherty does and the happy three vote for us to pay. Again MY OPION !!!! The council is able to make remarks about us, Sherry can go on about how bad we are, pick people out of the audence while she is repermanding us, but we have to take it. Let us get up and say one word out of the way or ask a question that hits them hard and were out. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO PAYS THEIR SALERY?
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I just love to highlight the stupid statements in a post ... Granma's posts are usually chock full of stupid comments ... She feels the public needs protection from council ... give me a break are you kidding ... so you think it's OK to sue the because the almighty Pil tells you it is ... You bow down to him as though he is some sort of god ... Get a grip Granny ... suing the police is WRONG no matter how you look at it ... They were doing their JOBS!Oh and Granma ... I know my spelling isn't perfect and a typo here and there gets through ... but good God did you never hear of spell check? Every computer has it ... I suggest you use it!
Sam I Am Posts: 30 Date: Mon Dec 18 11:25 PM, 2006 Views: 54 Quote | ReplyRE: Looking for the names of these cops:
Joe, I understand what you're getting at with the cops, but I'm sure these cops were not there of their own free will.....they were just following orders to be there. Your nest bet would be to name Elliott in the suit....he's most likely responsible for putting the cops there and ordering them to do Judy's dirty work. Dragging some of these cops through the mud in a lawsuit would not be fair to them, they didn't ask to be disrespected the way they are by this administration.
Although I don't think this Sam I am is the voice of reason among the :evil: DD'ers ... at least he's not as crazy as most of the at DD ... he at least knows there is no value to suing these officers I don't think Elliot should be sued either ... but hey you know there is no stopping these fools once they get on a roll.
Katie Posts: 138 Date: Tue Dec 19 12:51 AM, 2006 Views: 25 Quote | ReplyRE: Looking for the names of these cops:
I will back our police officers day in and day out. They put themselves on the line to protect us and make our quality of life better. The actions they take are by the nature of the job risky and split second in many instances. The action of a police officer must be warranted. The action of the police officer last Thursday evening was clearly not warranted nor was it valid. He is not a private security guard there to jump at Judy's command. He had no authority to stop her from speaking. He had no authority to threaten to arrest her. (If you listen closely, you can hear him make that threat.) He was wrong. Faye did nothing to warrant such action. His actions, in my opinion, can only be credited to ignorance or lack of training. Either way, shame on him. I honestly believe he overstepped his authority. For that I am very sad. I truly hope something like that does not ever happen again. A police office has codes he must obey. Judy Gatelli is no where in that code.
OK ... Katie my girl ... you clearly see the value of having a professional police department ... good ... and I see that maybe you took a course in some sort of law ... but obviously you didn't pay attention ... because if you were right the practice of having the SPD at public meetings would have stopped years ago ... hey did you know they go to School Board meetings also ... Fay remembers I'm sure ... she was taken out of those meetings a few times as I recall. What you DD posters don't get is simply this ... FAY LOVES the attention! That is exactly what she planned ... sorry to tell you all I have seen her in action now for years. You are all playing right into Fay's hands ... keep up the good work I am sure that she and Janet are quite proud of you all! You give them exactly what they want! ATTENTION!
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I don't tape the council meetings so I can keep track of who said what. I tape them because my schedule does not allow for me to watch the first hour or so. I am SO glad I have taped the past few meetings purely for reference purposes. For the past month or so (and previous meetings as well) Fay has not approached that podium without a chip on her shoulder. She walks into council chambers looking to pick a fight.
Fay Franus does NOTHING without an ulterior motive - whether she has a point or not. She loves to be the center of attention - she NEEDS to be the center of attention. If people are not paying attention to what she is saying or doing, she will MAKE them notice her. She will ALWAYS pick the underdog simply so she can argue and shove her opinions down our throats. These past weeks, she has been baiting council with her tirades and ridiculous questions - and all she is saying is "LOOK AT ME" - "LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY" - 'WATCH HOW MANY BUTTONS I CAN PUSH" - and watch what happens when Judy takes the bait. I congratulate Judy for putting up with it for as long as she did. Sherry really shouldn't have jumped into the frey, it just played into Fay's hands and gave those asswipes across the hall at DD more ammunition against her.
It's not just at council meetings - Fay is this way in life. If you tell her the sky is blue, she will argue the point - not because she is right, but because she LOVES TO HEAR HER OWN VOICE. And having a forum where she can do it on television and be guaranteed five minutes of look-at-me-me-me airtime?? well, that just makes matters worse. I have said it before - She will argue with her fellow man over something as silly as the price of a cup of coffee, but that bitch'll kiss a dog on the lips after it bites her on the ass.
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And just to stay on topic, the policemen who are stationed at the council meetings are there for a reason. If it's on their schedule to be there, then so be it - nothing you or I can do is going to change the fact that policemen are there. While they are there, they are to do their jobs and that is to maintain decorum. At COuncil President's request, they did not saunter up to Fay and manhandle her - they were both polite and ASKED her to step away from the podium. It might do everyone a world of good if some of the speakers showed the Council a little more respect - you may not respect the persons, but you should definitely show more respect to the positions they hold as councilpersons. It is as simple as that.
-- Edited by His Girl Thursday at 08:43, 2006-12-19
I was just reading Pilchesky's last post on this thread across the hall at dd. He talks about the training these policemen have and how intimidating they are. Well - YEAH ! Policemen are supposed to be intimidating. Let me just say - again - that when these two policemen approached the ever-beligerent Fay Franus, they were polite and certainly NOT intimidating in any way toward her. She on the other hand, was spitting questions about being arrested toward both the policemen and President Gatelli. Really professional Fay; no beligerence there, no sir. Your fifteen minutes are running out Fay, better have Joe put your name on the suit (or as Granma would say "lawsuite") damned fast. And remember - Fame lasts fifteen minutes - infamy lasts forever.
At one point, I thought Judy should hire her own duo of body guards to attend the meetings on her behalf, but could you imagine the **** that would hit the fan at THAT meeting???