Well the Parker House has been around for a long time but I do believe that it has only been in the hands of "The Parker House Boys" for the past 2 years and those boys would be owners Tommy Gilbride and Jerry Notariani. The cast of regulars at that bar are the past School Board Majority Members and Harry McGrath ... and many of the democratic movers and shakers from the area.
I do agree with the shirts as being immature and not really helping the situation. Many of the speakers only go because the cameras are rolling ... I myself stopped going when they brought in the cameras and the games began.
Mr. Pilchesky using the City Council Meetings to bash the County is just one thing that irks me ... these are not meeting that can control county business ... he should be taking the business of what goes on in the courthouse to the county meetings ... some speakers bring up School District Business at City Council Meetings ... these things should be brought up at School Board Meetings ... Council can do nothing about these problems with the County and the School District ... but these people who speak (most of them not all) only go there to get on camera and the meeting that provides them with the most exposure is the one they choose to speak at ... and that would be City Council Meetings ... this is why I have no respect for the Doomers because they have made it virtually impossible for people to come in and feel comfortable attending a meeting let alone bringing up something that may be important to that person ... if it's not what they agree with they ridicule the speaker ... instead of saying that everyone has a right to the freedom of speech and the right to their own opinion ... they heckle and ridicule the speaker ... how do I know ... because I have been there when they have done it ... and God forbid they don't know who you are .... they then begin to make remarks about you being a Doobie plant ... again ... how do I know ... it happened when I went to speak at a Council Meeting.
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Well then, as I suggested, either you were dumb as a pile of rocks or being deceitful.....Clearly it wasn't the dumb as rock one on this particular issue. That leaves deceptive....You did in fact know what the name "doomers" meant and what it was all about, the fact that you didn't like it is not the same as not knowing about it.....You did exactly what I said my children did....pretend ignorance to avoid responsibility. You have done it a few times......
If you have been posting as you claim since 2007 then you know Stacy Brown was called the N-word. It was a huge event and was even commented on by local news media. Glenn, to his credit, stood up for Stacy and said it is despicable to do something like that, Glenn was abused for it, by the man you claim to admire and his minions, but Glenn did it, he even quit DD for while over it, because it was the right thing to do.... You?? What did you do? What do you say now about it?
You pretend you know nothing about it and other 'distastful" events and can't "judge" people anyway even if you did know ....But of course you had no trouble judging the trouble at Dunmore High School did you? You really don't have any independant information about that event. (other than what that as$hat across the hall has given you and we all know how unbiased he is don't we??) but that didn't stop you from commenting on it did it? By the way I am not saying you shouldn't comment or judge I merely point out you claim to not do it ....unless I notice it is something unrelated to DD. The bottom line is you do comment....you do pass judgement......just like the rest of world does.. You however do it when it suits your agenda and pretend you do not do it when it also suits your agenda....In my observation it seems your problem is either you are afraid to comment negatively on Pukechesky's or you are in agreement with the horrendous comments and things the Pukechesky's have done. I think I know which it is.... care to try to prove me wrong?
Oh I supposed you could call this bashing but I have zero time for bull$hitters as Glenn can attest...he has been on the receiving end of my bull$hit meter on more than one occasion... right Glenn?
Oh I supposed you could call this bashing but I have zero time for bull$hitters as Glenn can attest...he has been on the receiving end of my bull$hit meter on more than one occasion... right Glenn?
I was not and am NOT being deceptive. I know it involved t-shirts and city council, not what, who, when and why the t-shirts were printed. By whom they were printed and what lead to them being worn to city council meetings. I only saw ONE person wear a shirt more then once. I do believe I remember ONE time watching on tv where there was a handful of people wearing them!
Contrary to what I think some of you have done, I have not read EVERY single post ever posted on DD and I do not REMEMBER reading one where Mr. P called Stacey Brown anything other than a blow hard, stupid, and things to that effect. If I did read it and did not saying anything about the use of that word, SHAME ON ME!
There are more than a few things I at times, think I should have commented on, but pick and choose my battles. Or have written a post, only to say why bother and deleted it! It may not be PC, it may seem hypocritcal, but it is the truth!
I am not running for anything, and I do not like to be called a liar. It is a free country and you can do as you wish, but I do not have to like it! I also do not think it is a positive way to engage in any type of meaningful dialogue. .
"...Oh I supposed you could call this bashing but I have zero time for bull$hitters as Glenn can attest...he has been on the receiving end of my bull$hit meter on more than one occasion... right Glenn?..."!
REALLY!!!! ?????? You sure seem to have spent much of your ZERO time on a person you perceive to be a bull****ter. Sleep well.....
I joined DD in late March of 2007, I moved to Scranton in late June of 2007. When did the Stacey Brown stuff occur? Doomer stuff? I am curious? I started reading the TT in or around late 2005 on line, but not on a regular basis till around Feb. or March of 2007 because my husband was moving back here in April of 2007 to report for duty at the depot on I believe it was April 4th of 2007.
Well Lynn you most certainly did live here and you most certainly were a regular poster at DD when this occurred because it was Dec of 2007. It's just easier to say that you had no idea or that you did not participate (maybe you didn't) ... but by saying nothing then that tells me that you condone the use of this word when he used it.
I know free speech is what you will spew at me now ... but that is not free speech ... that is hate speech .... and there is no proper context in which this word should ever be used.
And to say that you don't know about the Doomer stuff is bull ...because that has been going on for years and years ... and you go to Council Meetings and you have seen them in action ... hell I thought you were one of them.
Please stop taking the easy way out ... by saying you didn't know ... because it's been all over ...
Did you know about Joanne Pilchesky who ripped off her father's estate against the wishes of her dying/dead father who did have a will and who did appoint someone he chose to administer that will ... she got him when he was vulnerable ... estranged for years but swooping in when she heard he was dying and robbed the poor man of over $100,000 ... and she did not give her siblings a cut of that ... but that's OK that she did that right ... even though she has been found guilty and will eventually go to jail for her CRIME ... and I am sure her hubby encouraged her to do this ... hell how do you think they funded DD?
You admire a man who it was proven that he does not pay property taxes to the city of Scranton but bitches about everyone else ... oh that's right he says he does not owe the taxes as the house is his wife's .... there is paperwork to back it up!
These things are what we here refer to as the DD double Standard
1. Don't you ever say a word that may be construed as being racist ...... but Joe can throw around the "N" word like it's nothing .... because he didn't use it in a certain context ... even though he was speaking of an African American Gentleman when he used it ... HMMMMMM ... sounded racist to me!
2. Pat O'Malley files to be the administrator of his brothers will so he can recoup $4,000 he paid out of his pocket for his brothers funeral .... he should go to jail in the eyes of the kids across the hall .... Joanne Pilchesky rips of the estate of her dying/dead father to the tune of over $100,000 for her own personal gain ... she is found guilty in a court of law ... and the masses scream that it's nothing more than political payback because of the DD website ... the crime she committed was in Erie PA ..... so no it was not payback .... but the DD double standard is very apparent in this particular situation! hmmmmmmm
Those are just two examples of the man you admire and want to learn from ... there are many many more just go into the archives and you will see it all ... in all of its disgusting glory!
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I want everyone to stop and think about one thing ... Joe Pilchesky is not a lawyer ... he's just a guy playing a lawyer on the internet. Please don't trust your legal needs to this man.
Oh and don't forget that Joanne Pilchesky did not sign as Joanne Pilchesky when she took the money ... she used her maiden name Joanne Ricci ... like they would not know who that was ... I could go on and on ... that was disgusting what she did ...
How dare they judge the morals of anyone else as they have none of their own!
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"They" are not me. I clearly stated "... If I did read it and did not saying anything about the use of that word, SHAME ON ME..."! That is all I can say. I am not going to use free speak to defend use of that word. It is hate speech, I don't use it I detest it, along with a host of other words, would you like my list. It is not George Carlin's list of 7 dirty words, it is my own. I also said I do not REMEMBER. That is my final answer. I will not go digging through 3 years of posts to see if I did or did not participate in something that my gut is telling me I did not, I do not have the time nor the energy for it.
As I said clearly, I moved here in June of 2007, how often have you folks moved? DD is/was not then or now the center of my universe and if it ever becomes it, my husband will be the first to take issue with it. While I moved here to join my husband, I still had a home to sell on Long Island ( and upkeep repairs to aid in the selling of that home), an 18 & 19 year old living in that home, a mother living with dementia on Long Island, not to mention a 7 year old to get acclimated to a new city.
Additionally, when I moved here, I attempted re-employment in the summer at Spotless Cleaners on Mosic ST., was REALLY getting to know my large extended family by marriage for the first time, dealing with an CRAZY ex-wife, estranged adult children of my husband, running a household and oh yeah the biggie, creating a new life for myself and my son and husband.
When I first spoke at council I stated, I learned from life experience, that legal and moral are not always the same. I know all about Mrs. Pilchesky's fraud, I know all about the O'Malleys case, and will not comment on either. I will not comment on Mr. Pilchesky's criminal background, I can not and will not.
I only recently found out some very unflattering and disturbing things about the family I married into. You see, I met and married my husband, in Texas. BUT, he was born and raised in Scranton, and family secrets around here seem to be buried far and deep. While my husband is not now or never has been in any legal trouble (other than with regards to his former spouse and children from that union), I can not say the same for his family of origin and extended family. IMHO, somethings I learned since living here, would have been a deal breaker had I been fully aware 24 years ago.
Tar and feather me. If and when anyone feels like discussing anything and everything other than DD, I will be more than happy to participate.
You've given us an awful lot of information about yourself and your family. Personally, I think that's a little naive, considering where you posted it and can not know who might read it. The funny part of it all, is now that you've mentioned these things, i still have no idea who you are, but I do know your husband's family and the past history. So, thanks for that.
Anyway - As I have previously suggested, you don't have to read every topic from every day from DD's inception. Yes, start with the very last page and work your way forward, but only look at the topics with a large amount of postings/pages. These are the ones we are referring to. pilcheski starts the topic off with a single inoccuous post (or maybe an outright lie) either to pique the dd interests, or whip them into a frenzy. Not all the time, but there are a few topics which have gone viral. These are the ones that have the disgusting avatars, volatile comments, racial slurs, and photoshopped cartoons of many local politicians.
These are the postings we initially suggested you read, to see for yourself what you would be exposing yourself to should you choose to become an elected official and should you divert your attention in any way from what pilcheski wants his sheep to know and discuss. You'll also notice that when the topic seems to be losing dd interest, some anonymous one-time poster (jp in disguise) will comment on it to bring it to page one with (how'd that happen?) a new name to the topic making it look all fresh and brand spanking new and ready for more discussion.
I am sitting here chuckling and the rest of the posters here are probably wondering "what the hay-ell", because I am usually the first one to jump on a new poster's $hit. Why I am treating you any different, I don't know - but for your own benefit, look at them and see just what type of people they are. There's been a little mellowing out over there, but at one time they were (and can still be) truly vicious!
Holy moly-this thread didn't go the way I expected it to.
Lynn, very sorry to hear about your medical issues and I hope you have a quick and complete recovery.
That said, why are you doing this to yourself? The world shouldn't know about you or your medical condition. I understand you're wanting to be open about your identity when you take a stance-especially if you ever become a candidate for office.
Until then enjoy the anonymity the Internet affords without putting yourself out there for "abuse." The tough go-round you experienced here is nothing. Just a few dedicated people pouncing on the chance to debate with a Pilchesky follower. No one here would take anything further than debating issues here with you. I fear floating too much information out about yourself is generally bad, but certainly bad in a place like dd.com. Please reconsider putting yourself out there for the taking. They will take you.
But I only want to add this one last statement ... this site is called Pilchesky Deceit and it is for discussing the DD website ... although we do welcome all civil discussions it is mainly for the purpose of discussing DD and the posts of DD.
And as Art has said I also am wishing you a speedy recovery ... sorry to hear of your health issues and I will as I said in an earlier post, keep you in my prayers.
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****, I would rather be "abused" for what I am and my perceived deficits, then for who I admire and you folks obviously detest. While you all have your reasons to dislike the man, I have not once defended what you abhor in him. I have just not agreed with you, and I will not. I do not think he is a Saint, being a Protestant, I do not put my faith in Saints in the first place and sure as the day is long do not think Mr. P is one. I also will not condemn a man in his entirety for saying and doing things that I do not agree with, would not do, or would not participate in.
Someone asked me why I would want to attend a how to school from him, instead of a real class room, I have 11K worth of reasons why I would not want a real class room. Also, the real world does not work the way the class room does, now does it?
What would any of you like to know about me?
I truly do not have much to hide. I am a very open person. Always have been and it has always worked fairly well for me, so even though it is not "typical" I am fine with it. I am 44, white, female, the youngest of five from an intact family household. Mom was the wage earner long before it was in vogue, my Dad was a quadriplegic from the time I was five till he passed when I was 20. I left Long Island at 19. I hold a BS degree (always thought that was funny) I have been married twice to two fine men, actually since I am 18, I had one month off for good behavior between marriages!! Not a smarmy as it sounds my first husband and I were separated for approx. a year before we filled for divorce. You make more money in the military married than you do being single. I have been married to my current and final husband for 22.5 years, we have three children 22, 21 and 10 and one grandchild who is 17 months old. Our only daughter is the 21 year old and she and our granddaughter live on Long Island. My husband has two adult children from his first marriage and they have 4 children between them with another on the way. I have been on disability retirement since October of 2002. When I was forced to leave the work force, I thought it was the worst thing that could possibly happen to me and my family, but as my parents had taught me and by extension my family, we learned to make lemonade from lemons. I have been blessed to be able to be home for my youngest child, and be the Mommy I wanted to be when I was asked way back when what I wanted to be when I grew up.
Anything else, just ask, about any issues, just ask...about DD, ummmm I think I have said all I really care too about there. It seems to be of great interest to all of you though.
Well we're going to have to agree to disagree on Pilchesky. I was always taught to deal with issues directly and to be fair and honest.
While Pilchesky does put his name and face on what he's doing, he allows (and encourages) very poor behavior from other people and allows innuendo, hearsay, rumor, gossip and outright lies to be posted on his site.
Think of it like this. Joe owns a bar. Joe decides who can party or hang out in his bar and who can't. Fair enough, it's his bar. Problem is some of the people Joe lets hang out are very crude, nasty people. Some of them are nice people too. But because its Joe's bar he enforces the rules he creates and allows people to act however he feels is appropriate. While that sort of "wink and a nod" enabling is OK for some, it doesn't sit well with me. I suspect there are other people who would like to go to Joe's bar, but won't because of the type of customers he caters to. Worse yet, when I went to Joe's bar, everyone was a Steelers fan. When I said I was an Eagles fan I got thrown out. Never been to a bar like that before-and I've been to plenty of bars. They'll serve minors, criminals, the uneducated, as well as the educated, soft spoken and fair-as long as you're a Steeler fan. I could have PRETENDED I was a Steelers fan and stayed forever, but I thought the fun and educational part about the game was the debate, rivalry, sport, banter, differing opinions, etc. I never went to a game before where only one team was allowed to play. That's very foreign to me.
But what really gets my lather up is I live next door to Joe's bar. So I have to tolerate all of the people fighting, puking, cursing, littering and pissing all over my neighborhood. The theory of Joe's bar is nice. The reality is it needs a new owner. One that throws out the pissing, puking, fighting scumbags instead of one that allows that behavior.
Who knows though. Maybe you're one of those people who only invite Steelers fans to your house on Super Bowl Sunday. Seems un-American to me, but if it makes sense to you more power to you. I have to think Joe hates Eagles fans for a reason though. Perhaps we know a little about the game and letting us in would make it harder for the Steelers' fans prove their points.
I want everyone to stop and think about one thing ... Joe Pilchesky is not a lawyer ... he's just a guy playing a lawyer on the internet. Please don't trust your legal needs to this man.
I am who I am and have been true to myself where ever I have lived. I have never changed my core personality to fit in ANYWHERE. Maybe toned down my choice of "colorful" local colloquialisms of my youth, adopted local phrases, as in y'all, and made poor choices in fashion. Other than that, not much adaption.
I wish I could say I took more after my sisters and my beloved mother and my maternal side of the family, quiet, and graceful, I favor them in appearance and that is about it. I tend more to favor my paternal side of the family and my brothers in personality. That is not a bad thing, except for them and coming from a girl for me. Head strong, outspoken opinionated and argumentative. I hear and understand what all of you have written about DD and understand why you find some of the posters distasteful and choose not to participate.
Sexism, well I am a woman, was an Army wife, was a business traveler, worked for an agency that was approximately 85 percent female yet the top 10 percent were still male so that never stopped me. Racism, well, I have seen both sides of that too. While reverse racism is not recognized by our government have seen it in action and lived with it. I have seen blacks refused seating in the 20Th century south, heard truckers talk on Cb's about lynching a man for walking down the street with his arm around a white woman, and heard terrible stories first hand about how some of our military members were treated in Army towns by rednecks. Disassociating from racists does not work, it only isolates them further and gives them the impression that their behavior is acceptable. Since they surround themselves with others that accept it. Soft porn, see Army wife. Crazy people, see Army wife, where I come from, or the news. Violence, I myself have had to deal with it, and sadly the truth is no matter how we try to sugar coat it, by definition anyone who serves in our armed forces is ultimately trained to be a killer. It is an over simplification for sure, but true none the less.
So I could no longer participate in a forum that I enjoy for one reason or another, I could stop posting, delete old posts, turn and no longer associate with something, somr people or someone I have been involved in because one day I might want a public persona, but I won't. As with every other aspect of my life, I will face it head on, warts and all, and accept the consequences of my actions to the best of my ability. That is the best I can do, and if that is not good enough so be it.
Lynn I find all of this and you extremely tiresome....my original point (and nothing has changed btw) was anyone who shows the poor judgement of "announcing" for a office on DD was not someone I could vote for.....in addition when confronted about DD you took the "see no evil, hear no evil" attitude which only reinforced my original belief that you are not a person capable of exersizing good judgement, and as such, not a candidate I could support. To date you have done nothing to dispel that belief ( in fact many of things you have said only reinforce my belief) As to were or if you post on DD, personally I could care less were you post. You can scrawl love letters to Joey on all the local bars bathroom walls, I am simply stating that I could never, will never, support you or anyone who thinks like you for public office. You have clearly demonstrated your lack of judgement, when you gladly and proudly cast your lot with a bunch of racists, bigots, homophobes, degenerates, near-do-wells with a chip on their shoulder, disgruntled city workers who lack the balls to stand up for themselves in the light of day, and in some cases out and out criminals. Your stance on issues is irrelevant to me at this point in the discussion, as you lack the basic judgement I require in my candidates to even get to a point where discussion of the issues can occur. Frankly DEAR there is nothing at this point you could do to change my view of you.
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-- Edited by IHavehadenoughofhaters on Tuesday 1st of February 2011 08:27:25 AM
Ahhhhhhhh...a common ground at last, because from dealing with a nameless stranger, I pray I never have to meet in real life, I can say, I do not like you. A zealot is dangerous in most forms. You, who ever you are seem to be completely and utterly blinded by your hatred of Mr. P. May I infer, I will no longer be seeing your love letters?
Lynn, you have this amazing and exhausting way of completely missing the point and talking about something completely different than the topic at hand.
No one here is blinded by a hatred of Joe Pilchesky. The hatred is reserved for the racists, homophobes, bigots, etc on his site and in this world. Hey, I may one day meet a guy in the Ku Klux Klan who shares the same ideas I do on world hunger or the environment, but I'll never stand next to that person on a stage, at a podium, in a forum etc. The larger issue is the deep rooted hatred the Klansman has for Blacks, Jews, gays, etc. An a-hole is an a-hole, plain and simple. I may have common ground with an a-hole on a certain issue, but if said a-hole's basic moral fiber is based on hate and ignorance I'll do my part by not giving him the time of day, a microphone to speak into, or an audience to preach to.
I don't expect you to understand that. You clearly don't. You seem like the kind of person who did nothing to try to remove Rosa parks from the bus. Instead you seem like the kind of person who thought it was OK to sit on the bus and read your paper and do nothing while they tried to make her leave. Then when asked how you could just sit there and do or say nothing your answer would be something like "well I had to get to work. Just because someone hates blacks doesn't mean I shouldn't enjoy public transportation. "
So what you're saying is because you aren't a racist or homophobe it's OK for you to hang around with them because we're all entitled to our own opinion. BS. If you're going to defend the virtue of Pilchesky at least grow a set and say something when he is clearly out of line.
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I get confused when reading your posts Lynn so correct me if I am wrong ... do you believe that we all made a choice not to be members of DD ... that would be a wrong assumption on your part ... I very much wanted to be a member of DD so that I could take part in open and honest debate. Open and honest debate is something that Joe Pilchesky does not welcome on DD ... you get the boot from the place when you don't agree with what he says ... freedom of speech has rules at DD and the rule is you can say whatever you want about whomever you want ... without having proof of allegations you make against anyone you want ... but the one thing that you have to do is make these accusations of impropriety against only the enemies of Joe and Joanne Pilchesky ... criticize Janet Evans when he is in his "I Love Janet ... She is my Queen" mood and you will be booted quicker than you can blink your eyes.
We know what DD is and what they are all about ... it's a forum for a narcassist to have people worship him and give him their hard earned dollars to help fund his frivilous lawsuits which waste the tax dollars of not only the citizens of Scranton but all of the Citizens of Lackawanna County .... you like that ... good for you ... Like IHave said we don't really care ... but when you come here that is what this place is about ... talking about DD ... discussing DD ... and Joe and Joanne Pilchesky .... you are not the first dd'er ... doomer to come here to try and get us to talk about something else and I am sure you won't be the last ...
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I want everyone to stop and think about one thing ... Joe Pilchesky is not a lawyer ... he's just a guy playing a lawyer on the internet. Please don't trust your legal needs to this man.
Can I ask you this Mrs. Bloom ... why do you never give the crazy people at DD all of this information about yourself?
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My God this thread has turned into a verbal cluster f&^k, akin to Bill Clinton arguing about what the definition of what "is" is.
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Ms Bloom...
Either you agree that Pilchesky is a dirt-bag & his followers* are a bunch of mindless cretins OR you do not. No more "I don't judge" bull$hit, because clearly you DO judge, no more talking around the issue by bombarding us with tons-o-words. No more deflection.
I will make this an easy multiple choice.
Joe Pilchesky is:
a) A community activist who does a lot of good for Scranton.
b) A bully who can't intimidate people physically so now he is relegated to abusing the court system and a tawdry Internet message board to do his dirty work.
Choose wisely Grasshopper.
(*) By "followers" I mean the small crew that regularly does nothing other than simply agree with everything he does; think Spinder, Franus and that pseudo-intellectual bigot Antisemeticmovements. I don't include people like Hardcore or Glenn, as they have actually disagreed with Pilchesky and his felonious wife.
-- Edited by Agamemnon on Tuesday 1st of February 2011 07:45:07 PM
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.