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Hey A$$hole you might want to start checking your facts before making your posts ... the City has been randomly checking their truck drivers for years because they are required to by law ... get with the program!

Joe Pilchesky

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Date: Dec 29 7:14 PM, 2010
All City and County truck drivers should be drug tested - most drivers are in private enterprise
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Many insurance companies require periodic drug testing of truck drivers, particularly drivers of municipal equipment.  Given the great responsibility that comes with operating heavy equipment and trucks, it's only a matter of good management to institute mandatory drug testing.  I was of the belief that the City has such a mandatory drug test in place, but if it does, it isn't putting it to good use.

A very good source indicates to me that DPW truck drivers with substance abuse issues are not being urhine tested at all.  In fact, my source tells me that some of the drivers have had to take time off to attend rehab.  I'm advised that one such driver may be Brian Kizer, who it's reported just returned from being out on drug rehab for the last month or so, and come Monday morning he'll climb right into the cab of a 40 ton garbage truck and away he'll go.  But, will he be clean when he gets behind the wheel?  How long will he stay clean? 

Piss tests are fast, easy and cheap.  The safety of the public should be of utmost concern.  Perhaps the next administration will see to it.

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Didn't you post on your board a few years back about a driver who was dismissed after testing hot for a substance after he was piss tested ... you don't even remember your own posts ... come on ... you know they are being tested you just like to stir the pot so you can see how much of stink you can create ... and then when someone hears that a driver has been tested you will take the credit for it ... well you will have had nothing to do with the testing ... like I said they have been doing this for years .... at least 10 that I know of ...

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Date: Dec 30 3:22 PM, 2010
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When you have a CDL you need to have a current physical card that has to be renewed every 2 years.  Drug testing is usually done randomly throughout the year and also during your 2 year physical.  Also Your BAC level is .04 whether you are on duty or not.  If you have a CDL and are driving you own vehicle and are not at work your BAC still can not be above .04 or you are legally considered driving under the influence.  The state changed that rule about 4 years ago.

Completely untrue, but par for the course at Doherty Deceit, where facts go to die.

$5 says "Marathon Man" cannot even tell the class what CDL stands for. confuse

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Paul wrote:

Marathon Man
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When you have a CDL you need to have a current physical card that has to be renewed every 2 years.  Drug testing is usually done randomly throughout the year and also during your 2 year physical.  Also Your BAC level is .04 whether you are on duty or not.  If you have a CDL and are driving you own vehicle and are not at work your BAC still can not be above .04 or you are legally considered driving under the influence.  The state changed that rule about 4 years ago.

Completely untrue, but par for the course at Doherty Deceit, where facts go to die.

$5 says "Marathon Man" cannot even tell the class what CDL stands for. confuse
I don't know Paul he does not seem to be wrong here ... I just looked it up


  1. Under Pennsylvania DUI Law, it is irrelevant to a CDL license holder if the DUI occurred in a commercial vehicle or in a personal vehicle. The limits, laws and penalties remain the same. However, the consequences are worse.
  2. Normally, the per se rate for a Pennsylvania DUI is .08. However, for a CDL driver while in his/her commercial vehicle, the per se rate is .04. Furthermore, a BAC between .04 and .159 is treated as a “High Rate” DUI which is the second tier, normally for those who have a BAC between .10 and .159.
  3. In addition to the legal penalties for a Pennsylvania DUI conviction you will be facing a 1 year CDL disqualification in addition to whatever happens to your non-CDL license. If you were in your commercial vehicle and convicted of being over the limit, there is an additional one year loss of your CDL. If you were carrying hazardous substances this will increase to 3 years. For a second DUI, even if both were in your personal vehicle, for a Pennsylvania CDL driver will result in a lifetime ban.
  4. The legal penalties for a first offense CDL DUI in Pennsylvania are:
    1. Jail: at least 2 days up to 6 months incarceration
    2. Fines: $500-$5,000 plus surcharges
    3. Personal License Suspension: 12 months to your non-CDL license and longer to your CDL license
    4. Commercial License Suspension: 12 months (3 years for hazardous substances)
  5. For CDL Drivers, Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition (ARD) will not reduce their CDL disqualification. Many attorneys who claim to be expert Pennsylvania DUI Lawyers advise CDL drivers to opt for the ARD program, so beware. This is bad advice; malpractice if you ask me. The only way you can avoid a CDL suspension is to fight the case and get a “not guilty” verdict or get the charges dropped.
  6. Many trucking companies may avoid hiring your if you have a DUI on your record- and the DUI will stay on your record forever. It never goes away. Even though they will not state it outright, you can bet on having a very difficult time finding work.

 http://www.paduiblog.com/tags/cdl-drivers/



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No, MM posted that a CDL holder is held to those standards even if they are NOT driving a commercial vehicle and are off duty.

That is simply not the case. Rather than reading the law, he pretended to be an expert and spread ignorance. Par for the course at DD.

Reread lines 1 and 2 of your cite:
1. Under Pennsylvania DUI Law, it is irrelevant to a CDL license holder if the DUI occurred in a commercial vehicle or in a personal vehicle. The limits, laws and penalties remain the same. However, the consequences are worse.
2. Normally, the per se rate for a Pennsylvania DUI is .08. However, for a CDL driver while in his/her commercial vehicle, the per se rate is .04.

DUI in a personal vehicle can impact your CDL standing, but it does not mean that you have different limits when you are off the clock and tooling around in your personal four door sedan.  A CDL holder just has more to lose.


-- Edited by Paul on Saturday 1st of January 2011 12:43:55 PM

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Ok ... I was confused ... and quite possibly a tad hung over from last evenings festivities when I read it! Comprehension is not my strong suit today.

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a la pilcheski: "A very good source indicates to me that DPW truck drivers with substance abuse issues are not being urhine tested at all. "
It's been a long time since I've had to have my "yur-hine" tested.

Stick with what you know, pilcheski
"Piss tests are fast, easy and cheap."

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