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This train is rolling like a runaway down the track ... Joe is just spinning and spinning those wheels coming up with crazier and crazier scenarios to feed to his minions ...   What I don't get is that these people just believe every word he feeds them ... He is doing this to boost his hits to his site and they are falling for it hook line and sinker ...

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Political conflict of the century I: Can Doherty get to Lee Morgan and/or Doug Miller?

How's this for scary?

The survival of the supermajority may rest in the hands of a vulnerable high school graduate in Doug Miller and a vulnerable Doherty critic in need of a break in the legal system by the name of Lee Morgan. Those two gents, along with Janet Evans, are the republican nominees for council.

Ohhhhhh, the pain of it all. Weak link 101 or will it be atta boy Doug and Lee?

By now, both Miller and Morgan know their pivotal roles in the future of the city of Scranton, as well as their critical roles in the future of Christopher A. Doherty. Doherty desperately needs something each of them have - the republican nomination - to take a shot at disturbing the supermajority potential. If Doherty can get either, or perhaps both, to withdraw by the deadline, which I believe is Aug. 22 or so, he can replace one of them/both with the likes of Pat O'Malley and/or some other candidate of name recognition. 

I'm told that both Miller and Morgan like their chances of beating either Rogan or Joyce. How that would hold up to some juicy, dangling Doherty carrots remains to be seen. Miller is a Bolus protege`. Will that mean man-of-political steel Bob Bolus will protect him and the supermajority potential? It should.

But, what about Morgan? Lee has some conflict involving some "Who knows who" Family Court decisions unfavorable to him. Harhut prejudicially sh!ts down Lee's neck every chance he gets, something Harhut does to lots of guys like Lee. That might change if Lee wants to parley his seat into a few favorable decisions by Harhut, and maybe for some other domestic/political conveniences. Then again, the Times just sh!t down Harhut's neck, didn't it? Funny how things happen. Lee comes off as a pretty tough character. But, how tough is he?

Can Doug and Lee hold off the Doherty treasures of pleasures?

Can they be bought?

Will they be bought might be the important question.

Who'd have thunk?  Maybe this is why Doherty was not concerned with the council race as we thought he should have been? If Doherty can throw Pat O'Mally and another vote-getter into the council race on the R side, Rogan and Joyce better start kissing DiBileo's/Murphy's ass in a hurry.  Maybe, just maybe, one of them should step aside to let DiBileo in, that's if the D Party will nominate him. Maybe both Rogan and Joyce might have to step aside to let DiBileo and Phillips in. Never say never. There's a lot at stake here, like the future of this city. Throw in taking out Doherty, as well as the grip that the Times has had on this city for decades.  

"I need two men good with guns" - Wyatt Earp.

-- Edited by Joe Pilchesky on Wednesday 27th of May 2009 09:32:59 PM

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Lee is a gifted speaker. I like listening to his style. He's very articulate and very good off the cuff.  He's make a great councilman in my humble opinion. He's always telling council what it should and should not be doing. I hope he understands clearly what he must do in this situation.  Stand tall, Lee. Don't give up your nomination for anything.

It's a once-in-a-lifetime chance to make a difference. Once-in-a-lifetime.

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Pat O'Malley would definitely be interested in council. It would be a stepping stone to the mayor's office where he wants to end up some day.  He's not the sharpest tool in the shed but he knows how to get the vote out. That's all that matters. He'd crush either Rogan or Joyce.  Janet better hope Miller and Morgan can hold their ground.

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If O'Mallley was so interested and such a formidable vote getter, why didn't he run in the election 2 weeks ago? There was literally no competition for the 3rd spot on the R side. As to beating Joyce and Rogan, it seems to me that people have been underestimating Janet since she got on the scene. Murphy, Doherty, DiBileo have always treated her as a joke. Now despite having just won a primary and showing she has coattails that are useful for something other than dusting, everyone seem to have developed fears that the voters just proved wrong. Is Pat O'Malley a tougher competitor than Judy Gatelli? You wouldn't have found anyone not named OMalley who would have said so in April. Why not believe the numbers, Rogan and Joyce campaigned hard and with Janet got a ton of votes. If Philips had been in the race, I think they would have beaten him too. I don't think there is anywhere but Scranton where you would seriously discuss kicking out proven winners in favor of a bunch of insiders of the anti-Doherty anti-Evans camp who couldn't beat them in the election or lacked the intestinal fortitude to try.

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I really like Lee Morgan, but I don't think he can get more votes than either Joyce or Rogan.

I don't think he will sell out, either. But, I've been wrong before.

Doug Miller, on the other hand, is a two-faced backstabber. Don't trust him.

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I don't think there is anywhere but Scranton where you would seriously discuss kicking out proven winners in favor of a bunch of insiders of the anti-Doherty anti-Evans camp who couldn't beat them in the election or lacked the intestinal fortitude to try.


Obviously, you're new to Scranton.

It starts all over. November will be the bloodbath of all bloodbaths around here.  Don't look if you're squimish
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Miller want a life in public service. If he sells out, he's done before he even gets started. Lee Morgan is a different story. He's in it to bust balls only. It won't be Miller that caves, if there is any caving.

They can both come out of this with a lot of credibility, even if they don't win this time around.  There's a blank page in the history books waiting to write something about each of them.  Who'd want it to say they sold out the people?

 



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Night watchman, I want referring to Miller and Morgan. I was commenting on Joe's suggestion that Rogan and Joyce step aside in favor of DiBileo and Phillips.

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"want" should be "wasn't"

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There needs to be a meeting of the minds. All of them claim to be running against Doherty's politics. If so, they should put their heads together and plan the next move. It's about toppling this regime, first and foremost. If they come together for the cause, they are all heroes.

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Where does he come up with this crap ... how does he think it up ... it must be what he himself would do if he were in that particular situation ... crazy stuff ...

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This is what happens when you promise a victory by "8-15%" and then end up losing.  Oh, and it will get nuttier yet.  The more pressure on Pilchesky...

  • from the financial pressures associated with making estate-bilking restitution (scary)
  • from the certain failure of Joanne's appeal (scarier)
  • to problems with the IRS (scariest...the IRS has two things in excess that Joe lacks...unlimited patience and unlimited resources)

...the nuttier he will become, mark my words.

How will this will manifest itself?  In things like...

...almost constant "f-bombs"
...the "you don't bring a knife to a gun fight" thing will be used a lot as he tries to justify nuttier behavior
...a surreal amount of lauding being placed on Janet Evans
...lots of "in the wind" postings
...lots of "politically speaking" threats

...what we are all watching is, in fact, the wheels coming off, which Joe himself predicted.  He was just wrong as to which wheels were coming off.






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Ag ... you were so right ... look at this ... crazy train for sure!

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a bitter pill wrote:

There needs to be a meeting of the minds.

Which minds? The minds that are diseased with ego and very limited emotional intelligence are those of Bill Courtright and Gary Dibileo. These two circle-jerkers clearly did not have enough toys as children. If either Courtright or DiBileo were female, Chris Doherty would concede to the world of advanced intuition, sophisticated manipulation and political vision. The problem here is that they're men. M - E - N.  Malignant Ego Neurosis To put it in simple terms, two dumb fvcks. They created a sandbox called musical council chairs some years ago and believe it belongs to them. Like I said, two dumb fvcks. And, they just might get away with undermining the opportunity to get this supermajority in place, after all, it's all about Billy and Gary. Right??  That's what matters here. Not the people. Not stopping Doherty and the Times, but Billy and Gary.

Here's Courtight, a quiet dumb fvck sitting councilman who watches, legislation by legislation, the city sink into corrupt-laden debt unequalled by any city of this size on the Eastern coast. For 6 years now, he's set the record for casting 'safe' no votes that meant nothing. The word "no" was the limit of his representation of the people who have been paying him $300 a week to let Sherry watch him jerk off under the desk. And we all thought Sherry was looking at her blackberry. My apologies to Sherry.

Here's DiBileo, gets steamrolled in 05 and retires to the lower shelf of political anitquity in the basement of Scranton politics. We don't hear a peep from him for four years. He emerges in 09, shrugs off the dust, clears the cobwebs and assumes the position of savior armed with a political pocket knife and handing his political puppet strings to Chris Cullen. That's how fvcked up this city is. That's the best we can do?  Clearly, it is.

All of them claim to be running against Doherty's politics.

These M - E - N don't run against Doherty. They run with him. Get it right. They play right into his hands. Janet Evans runs against Doherty. Chris Doherty fears her because she's a "her". A woman. Not a dumb fvck. Evans teaches political correctness by her emotional control, her ability to absorb whatever Doherty can dish out and rising to her feet no matter what size bus the Times runs her over with. All of which, by the way, she's done with a wink and a smile. But for a muzzle on her political liability known as Dave Evans, no one would know what she was thinking until it was far too late.  

If so, they should put their heads together and plan the next move. It's about toppling this regime, first and foremost. If they come together for the cause, they are all heroes.

Heroes are of an unselfish nature. That's what topples regimes. Even if they despise one another, they join forces to get the toppling done. They put aside personal agendas, political pride and destructive division. Courtright is NOT man enough to do that. DiBileo? Perhaps. With a nudge. Evans? Reeks with it.




 




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"But for a muzzle on her political liability known as Dave Evans, no one would know what she was thinking until it was far too late. " 



Oh boy Davey you better watcch your back ....Edith will be out the door soon and Joeyboy is eyeballing your squeeze.  He is already trying to throw a wedge in between you little lovebirds. Hahahahha.....Lovebirds....hehahhaha

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If I were Janet I would be afraid ... he's stalker material and he's right in her neighborhood ... David watch yourself ... this guy is unstable. Lifetime movies are made about guys like him.

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::: Evans? Reeks with it. :::
What -- does he think we can all read his mind?? I have read
and re-read that paragraph and, for the life of me, I can't see it
(or smell it) for that matter.

What exactly does Evans reek of ... vinegar, perhaps??
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It certainly isn't going to be today, and it may not be tomorrow,
but one day - and mark my words - it will come the day
when Miss Clairol disses pilcheski, or maybe he finds out that
she's faked an orgasm ...

He is going to pounce on her like a sleeping drunk in a truck.
The day will come and I can't wait to see it.

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The time is coming when even the Evans camp is going to view Joe as too much of a liability and cut him loose. 

In my opinion, I think that is what the Dibileo camp did when Atty Cullen (major player in Murphy/Dibileo camp) failed to represent Edith in her legal battles. 



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I just read how JP and ANTI have their outlook on the recent shooting in the City. I love the way ANTI wants to stir the pot with that shooting by considering it a racial motivated one. If you look at hios last post on that topic, he says "why am I not surprised the victim was black"

Its a Piece of s&%t like him that make tension out there, and make it more difficult for police to do their jobs. The only logical explaniation of his hatred to the SPD is he must of gotten jammed up sometime in his life by them. Hes a Jerkoff! I don't know who I hate more, him or JP.

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I've read that thread Sun and I'm pretty disgusted for several reasons:

  1. SPD - Members of the SPD that post at DD really need to examine their conscience...why participate at a site where the moderator basically opens the door to calling the police involved de facto murderers?  Look, I wasn't there, Anti wasn't there, Pilchesky wasn't there...but several police officers were, so I say give them the benefit of the doubt.  We trust the SPD with our lives, so I think we should also trust that they did the right thing...until someone in authority conducts an investigation and proves otherwise.  They have earned the right of assumed innocence.
  2. Anti - Anti is a racist pig.  Many of us suspect that "Anti" is actually some bloated white, middle-class, nebbish self-loather who has turned himself into a self-styled legend...on an Internet Message board.  That says a lot about the guy.
  3. Taking Advantage - Clearly the deceased individual in question had some mental health issues, so dragging this issue around in the sewer that is DD is at best in bad taste.  Remember though that this is the same place were one of Pilchesky's alter-egos ("Twisted Brother"...complete with mock-ebonics parody speak) accused Chris Doherty of causing a suicide.  Anyone with any knowledge of mental health issues can tell you that suicides are not "caused" by someone else...the things that lead someone to taking their own life are far more complex than "he did it".  The fact is that Pilchesky is once again taking advantage of a horrible situation to inflate his own ego and generate DD site traffic.  Call me old-fashioned, but that's just plain wrong.


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Agamemnon, You are correct, DD does come down hard with the SPD at times. You would think the officers that surf DD would come to realize it. Although they probably did say something, and got banned anyway, so whats the use. All in all, JP shows he's a horses ass on his prospective in how this situation should of unfolded. He wasnt there, he has NO clue on how police are trained, and his first post on that topic proves it. This guy thinks he knows everything about everything.

I said it once, I'll say it again. This guy should spend more time with his felon wife, then worrying about what goes on that have no bearing on him. Joann is leaving soon right? Be a husband for crying out loud, and get some sun.

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Let anti break it down for you:

The woman is black. She is not fully human, thus there needs to be no explanation. End of story.

The SPD is right; the two women in the last 4 or 5 five years are dead wrong.

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Perfect example on how DD is way over limits of being legit. I love it when I see these!!

agamemnon, I believe you now! This guy is garbage, plain and simple.

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I wasn't even going to have posts concerning this topic here ... but I thank you both for you thoughtful way of posting about this situation. The SPD should be trusted that they did all that they could have done before taking such action. Joe Pilchesky is a piece of $hit for suggesting otherwise.

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Sorry Lus for starting this topic under this heading. If you look at the current posts on DD in this topic, you can clearly see the posters there are at each others throats over it. Maybe now people will wake up and see that this shi##y site is not what it is. The true colors have shown.

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Their true colors have been shining through for years ... they accept Anti for what he is ... and Joe Pilchesky encourages racism ... so what is one to do ... they will never change.

I don't mind it being brought up really ... just keep it tasteful and I would say that we should reserve opinions until the fact of this are given.

Hardcore if you read here I hope you know that we have nothing but the utmost respect for the officers involved and also we grieve the loss of Ms. Williams life. Out hearts go out to all involved.



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This one is unbelievably simple...so simple that even the average DD poster could get it, if they just stop for a moment and think.

...The police risk their lives to protect us for modest pay
...A mentally ill individual was tragically shot by the police
...An investigation has been launched

The End

If it turns out that the officers did not follow procedure or acted inappropriately, then that will come out in due time.  Until then, give the guys who risk their lives for us the benefit of the doubt.  They deserve that much.





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Same here Hardcore, I'm glad someone on there supports what us police officers have to deal with day in and day out. Its just a shame there are not many other supporters on that trashy site.

Again, sorry for bringing this topic to this heading. At least we see what morons give a damn.

BTW, If I heard someone saying "those cops are pussies for shooting an old lady" I would as well knock their F$#king heads off, as well!

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I guess Joe Pilchesky is ancient ... if this woman is considered and old lady... She was 52 years old ... Joe is 60 what???? Anyway ... my heart goes out to all involved.

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Spin...I wouldn't blame you a bit for acting that way if someone made that kind of comment, and I say that as someone who is not a police officer, is not related to a police officer and doesn't personally know any police officers.  What I can say is that I've never had a bad experience with a member of the SPD.  Seems to me that they are as good a group of public servants as exists anywhere.

Lus...you are right about Pilchesky's age...I checked one of his "rap sheets" (actually I just wanted to say "rap sheet" in the same sentence as Pilchesky).


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Side note...I was just reading this thread at DD and what a shock, some DD posters have started to figure out that the site is full of anonymous idiots making accusations without any facts!  Now who would have thought that?  I think it is "John Galt" who has also come up with the "revelation" that DD posters selectively believe the Scranton Times.  By selectively I mean...

...when it says something they agree with it is credible
...when it reports anything negative about Pilchesky, Evans, (or positive about Doherty) it is not

...amazing, simply amazing.


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I wonder what Officer Nelson's take on this is, since the only place to get actual "news" is from DD. 

Amazingly how fast the DDers turned on the SPD.  What happened to these men and women put their lives on the line day in and day out?  These men and women are hero's?  They were hero's as long as Joe P could use them as a blunt force object to go after the mayor through the union court battles.  Now they want to tar and feather them and the whole deptarment is evil.  Leads me to believe the average DD poster has had more than a few run ins with the law.

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"OFFICER" NELSON WILL DO WHAT HE USUALLY DOES IN CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE THIS:  COWER IN A CORNER UNTIL IT'S OVER WITH.

Sorry to be yelling there, but you WILL NOT see a single post from "Nelson" in that thread.  He is too afraid to open his mouth, lest he end up contradicting himself about how DD is the "only real source for news" in Scranton.



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While "Nelson" is hiding in his corner, some of the DD posters apparently have the guts to take a stand.  Here's a great example...Unlike "Nelson's" silence we have this...and I think it speaks very well for itself...


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Due to this message board, a new policy went into effect at Scranton Police Department.  As of today, in roll call, orders were given out that during the next critical incident, SPD is to call out posters from Doherty Deceit, because obviously they have all the answers, even when they don't know the questions.

If and when the four officers involved in this incident are cleared of any charges, will there be any apologies offered here?  Hell, no, because the police were just "doing their jobs."  

As I already have stated, I'm not offering up any facts until the official investigation is over.  (Then it's public record, anyway)

The last comment I will make until then is this.  Scranton Police officers did what training teaches them to do.  It was a tragedy that Brenda Willams was killed.  If there are questions as to factors that contributed to her death, perhaps the mental health delegates should be called to task. 

That's it.


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I really believe hardcore has had enough of that site. Hardocre if you see this, Brother I am standing behind you 110%. I was banned there for voicing my "free speech right." I believe that dumba$$ Pilchesky does keep you around for his simple amusement.

Hang in there, People are seeing the true colors of the felons website.

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Well spin, Hardcore would be welcome to post here. Now here is just a thought on this situation. The officers who were on the scene, they were there for a total of an hour. Now I'm sure that this hour was not totally spent in the apartment with the woman.

Has anyone ever called the police? I had to call one time and well, the police first came and talked to me and then when and talked to the person I was making the complaint about. Now did anyone take the time to really think about this. The police more likely than not had to speak to whoever it was that made the complaint to find out why there is a problem. So if they were there for an hour ... then it stands to reason that they did not spend the entire hour in this woman's apartment.

I'm just guessing on this one. Spin am I to assume that you are a police officer? If you are am I correct on this?

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Speculation on why the officers were there for an hour is pointless at this moment, and it will all come out in the PSP investigation anyway.  The DD "Truth Squad" is just looking for someone new to demonize, as...

...Doherty won
...They've already dragged every single relative (including daugthers) of this Yerke dude through the mud
...apparently Pilchesky has suspended his jihad against Bill Courtright

...this is nothing more than water-cooler gossip of the worst kind because we are talking about one person's life and the professional lives of four police officers.



-- Edited by Agamemnon on Tuesday 2nd of June 2009 06:27:38 AM

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Yes you are Lus.

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Spin do they teach you this couch pillow unamring tactic for knife attackers?  Or how to use a couch pillow as a shield?

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No matter what is said at the end of the day, no one, and I mean no one, is going to sell the idea that four cops could not have subdued this woman, NO ONE. They were in her home. They each had access to a variety of means to end it, i.e., surround her until one gets a chance to grab her arm, throw couch cushions at her or use one to protect yourself




So Joe can subdue a woman who has a knife using a pillow, so then WHY in THE HEcKY SHeCKy (saw sam made his first post in over a month) did you use a tire iron to beat a sleeping drunk???


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Puzz, its called the Tudor Rule. 21 feet from you is all it takes for someone with a knife to make contact with you. we are trained a knife is a deadly weapon. Plain and simple. There is no alternative, except maybe a bean bag gun, taser, but that depends if there is no aggression towards you. If someone charges me with a knife, I'll shoot to stop the aggression.

If someone is sitting holding a knife, and not acting aggressive toward anyone, and after verbal commands don't work, a taser, or beanbag gun probably would do the trick. I wasn't there obviously that night, but I'm sure the investigation will point to the truth.

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Many many years ago my grandfather was a police officer ... he was a Lt. with the SPD. That was way back in the 30' 40's and 50's ... he was not yet retired when he passed away in 1960.

Anyway that has nothing to do with anything ... I wanted to comment on Puzzler's post ... how the hell does Pilchesky know that they could even get near that couch ...

There are so many people who post about what happened and the only ones who know are the ones who are there ... they can't comment due to the ongoing investigation. I for one have complete trust that the PSP will investigate this properly and come to a conclusion as to if the proper steps were taken and if deadly force was indeed needed. Until that time, and until the facts of this case come out and proves that there was some sort of wrong doing ... I can only assume that our officers acted in a professional manner.

Let's wait for the completion of the investigation people.

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I have great respect for the police which is why I am waiting for the investigation to be complete before I make any conclusions.  Do I think it is impossible for a wrong doing to have occured? Of course not, but I do intend to assume the best before I accuse the officers of the worst. They deserve that respect from me.  I am content to wait until the investigation is complete.

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