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IHavehadenoughofhaters


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I was unfortunetly unable to watch as I had a previous committment...so I was curious what really happened.  I know acroos the way it will be Dorhety sucked... he is done....Gary was wonderful...he will win....now I am looking for the real story lol

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I was there ... I was standing 4 people away from Pappa Pilchesky ... he was chewing on something ... like a cow chewing his cud ... and yes before you ask Ozzie was also chewing on whatever it is he chews .... and I'm sure Joe didn't like it when Ozzie Quinn gave up his seat and then stood with Sam Vitris and his wife ... Ozzie and Sam seem to get along quite nicely.

Gary passed on one question ... the "Brain Drain" question ... he didn't know what a "Brain Drain" is ... Bolus thought he knew what "Brain Drain" meant ... and after Bolus spoke Gary decided to speak during rebuttal on the issue of brain drain and well it was a rather comical moment.

Bolus rambled on and on ... seeming to me to give the same answer over and over ... but I am sure that Gary wasn't happy with one of the Bolus answers having to do with getting the city out of distressed status ... as it was clearly one of Gary's ideas that he spoke of in the paper last week, cutting out the Department of Public Safety.

Gary did however make a huge mistake by trivializing the deaths that have occured on the job at the DPW over the years ... I do believe that more men have died in the past 25 years at the DPW than on the Police and Fire Department put together. I'm going to make a call about this one .... Gary made it seem as though the DPW workers were unimportant ... I could go on and on about this but I won't right now I won't.

Across the hall they will probably say that Gary won the debate hands down ... I don't feel that way ... Gary was the only one of all three candidates that read from notes ... he had a table full of notes ...

The hall was crowded ... but it's not hard to get a crowd in such a small space ... it should have been held in one of the High School Auditoriums ... and maybe people would have been more comfortable and able to pay more attention.

I was distracted by Joe Pilchesky ... it was weird to be so close ... I wanted to introduce myself ... but my friend wouldn't let me ... he was afraid that it would cause problems.



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First, Lus your friend was right to tell you not too...Pilchesky is not a well man, and you don't want to find Les Spindler going through your garbage at 3am one morning.

Second, was the audience mainly DiBileo supporters?

Third, I'm sure that Pilchesky's crew (which is the same as Gary's crew) will write debate descriptions that would make communist propaganda ministers grin with pride..."Glories Gary delivered a massive blow in credibility to the crony imperialist Doherty".  Hell, for a small fee I could write the postings for Pilchesky.

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I would say that I saw more people for Doherty ... but I will give DiBileo this ... his supporters certainly were louder. They chanted Gary Gary Gary loudly and proudly. But as to who had more supporters in the room ... I would say Doherty.

Oh and you don't know how badly I wanted to introduce myself .... but I listened ... and that's not easy for me.

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I'd be very interested in the tragic loss of life suffered by DPW workers over the past 25 years.  I don't see the DDers trying to get their names on a memorial or complaining at konsil about their safety. 



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and you never will.....The DPW doesn't follow in lock step with the loons therefor they can die and DD could care less.  Disgusting as usual!

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To tell the truth, I completely forgot about it until I saw snippets on the news this morning. What the hell was pilcheski doing there anyway on the eve before the missus gets sent up the river?

Shouldn't he have been elsewhere keeping the home fires burning for the missus? Lighting a candle in the window, or tying big yellow ribbons to all the trees up and down Sunset Street. Or maybe brainstorming about how he's going to get out of paying back his half of the $90K.

C'mon people, prioritize -- what's more important -- edith on her way to the hooscow or a bull$hit election Chirs Doherty is going to win hands-down??

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Maybe is has Edith's replacement all lined up and doesn't care what happens to Edith! hummmmmmmmmmmm



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IHavehadenoughofhaters wrote:

and you never will.....The DPW doesn't follow in lock step with the loons therefor they can die and DD could care less.  Disgusting as usual!



 And apparently Gary DiBileo has no regard for the loss of life at the DPW.  I know the kids across the hall and Pilchesky hate the DPW ... but I had no idea until last evening that Gary DiBileo also hated them ... truly sad if you ask me.



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As anticipated, Doherty was a blowout.(that's on vile creatures opinion) He talked bullsh!t right from the beginning. He was caught in one lie after the other. He chased his own tail from beginning to end and still couldn't sell himself as a viable candidate for re-election. He couldn't say anything that he did "for the people", other than a police state and DPW building, and that's not much. Like a broken record, "I brought the med school. I brought 6,000 jobs, I brought revitalization to the downtown."

DiBileo and Bolus had him for dinner on practically each and every issue.(How do you figure that one?  I guess everyon interprets things differently ... I thought Doherty blew the two of them away.  Gary still had no plan for what he wants to accomplish ... and Bolus ... well it seems his main goal is to get Louie DeNaples back for pressing charges on him ... so what exactly is it that you thought blew Doherty out of the water)  Both DiBileo and Bolus were well informed and knowledgeable in their presentations.(I was highly impressed that neither DiBileo or Bolus knew what a brain drain was ... that was very impressive and showed just how well informed and up on things they truly are)

DiBileo showed a good leadership attitude and spoke very confidently.  He repeatedly leaned into Doherty when he was giving him a good earful, something that went over well with his supporters. It's something that will go over well with the voters. (I noticed that Gary was the only candidate who was reading from notes during the debate ... a yellow legal pad ... hmmmmm ... so what did the unions write down what they wanted him to say ... )

Doherty just sat there and smiled when he was nailed on one issue after the other, unable to muster a response to the accusations. He was asked twice to say where the 6,000 jobs were. No answer. (no what I heard him say that over all of his 8 years in office there were 6,000 jobs ... those jobs came from small business and various other business over the 8 years.  that he has been in office)
Bolus, as expected, was also very good. Bob has that "I've been around" thing going that people like. He had a lot of good one-liners that amused the crowd, but also made a good point. (I don't know about most people but I don't particularly care to have a mayor that is a smarta$$.  I want to be proud of my mayor ... I want him to be well spoken ... and I don't want him to constantly be using one-liners on people ... not what I want in a mayor.)

Should be interesting to see the spin in the Times, if any there is. (Well sir you put a spectacular spin on it ... I do not think that the Times could top you!  Hey how's Edith feeling ... one would think you would have stayed home with your wife last night instead of attending a debate ... nice ... real nice!)


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I really really hate when I have to admit this ... But Anti is the only one who somewhat gets it ....

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It's a senseless debate over whose job is more dangerous.

However, DPW's job is more dangerous. In the last 30 years, more DPW workers have died.

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It's not sensless ... at least it was not sensless to those who worked for the DPW and lost their lives while performing their duty to the citizens of the city of Scranton ... do you think the families of these men think it's sensless to say that the DPW has proven itself to be more dangerous in the city of Scranton than being a policeman or a fireman?  I don't think they would be proud to vote for Gary DiBileo who trivialized the deaths of these men ... and I know that the men who are working for the city in the DPW right now more likely than not did not apprecitate that statement by Gary DiBileo either!

It showed what little class Gary really has.



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::: They chanted Gary Gary Gary loudly and proudly :::
kind of like they would have if they were sitting in Jerry Springer's audience?

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Sorry to shanghai the thread, but I would like something clarified for me. According to some of the above posts, the Scranton DPW has the highest death rate over the City's Fire Department and the Police Department. This may sound tacky or insensitive (and I apologize up front if it does), but ... how ? I remember a few years ago a DWP worker died during his shift - hit by a car or something like that. What else?

How can riding piggy-back on a garbage scow be more dangerous than coming under fire by a drug dealer or rushing into a burning building to rescue a child? I just don't see it.



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A few years back one fell off of the truck ... another one fell out of one of the old recycling truck because a faulty door ... one man was hit by a drunk driver cutting him in half and sending the upper part of his body into the packmaster .... but Gary's right they have a safe job ... there have been between 7 deaths and countless people who have been injured and nearly killed .... but it's safer than being a police officer where there has not been a death on the job (thank God) for 30 years and the fire department where there has tragically been one life lost on the job. But like Gary said working for the DPW is much safer.

Inside the lobby of the DPW complex they have a memorial plaque with 7 names on it ... a memorial to the men who have died while on the job! Yeah Gary it's pretty safe!

(edited to reflect the correct information)

-- Edited by LusOnlyVoice on Thursday 14th of May 2009 03:57:48 PM

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Girl it shouldn't be but think about this ... people are in such a hurry to get to where they are going that they buzz right around these guys who are working on the street ... they are in the traffic all of the time ... and there are more idiots behind wheels of vehicles in Scranton than there are drug dealers firing at police officers ... now the firemen ... they have it pretty bad in my opinion ...

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there are statistics on this and i hadn't the time to find them, but according to OSHA, more laborers, etc. are killed on the job than police or fire. not saying that being a police officer or fire fighter isn't dangerous, but more people that have DPW's classification are being hurt or killed on the job than both police and fire. it seems that the campaign is pulling out non-facts to support their heart strings.

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The names from the Memorial Plaque

These are the men who worked for the DPW who have died while on the job at the DPW over the past 30 years

Jermoe Leccese

David Laird

Edward Tassey

Richard Price

Jack Rosser

Mark Krolak

Gerald Malone

I wonder if anyone told the families of these men that the job that they did each and every day was not dangerous ... that there should have been no reason that they should not have returned home on that fateful day that they died while working for the city of Scranton in the Department of Public works ... I wonder how they felt when Gary DiBileo said that the job that their loved ones died doing ... was not dangerous.

That is a list of men who died ... the list of critically injured is a long list.

Gary DiBileo trivialized the lives of these men and all of the men who work at the DPW ... he dishonored them.

 



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I had posted something a few months back that showed the death rate of many occupations (such as roofers) is higher than of public safety employees.  That doesn't minimize the inherent danger of what, for example, a policeman does for a living, but it makes the point that there is danger in many jobs.

All city employees who die on the job should be honored...and...their deaths should never be used as part of a political campaign (by either side).

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No they should not ...

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This is kind of funny ... I bought a new computer so now I'm able to watch these ... this one was sent to me and I thought it would fit right into this thread.



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Brian Drain = What happened inside Gary DiBileo's head while trying to come up with answers during the debate.

Very good Lus...very good.



-- Edited by Agamemnon on Friday 15th of May 2009 06:32:32 AM

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love it

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