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David...you dodged on the answer.  In fact, your answer sounded like something I'd hear your wife say at a council meeting...all be it at her speaking pace, it would have taken 40 minutes to get out.

Anyway, let me make it even simpler for you...choose A or B below...

A) Ms Wardell is full of $hit because there is at least one qualified female candidate for council

b) Ms Wardell is right and there are no qualified female candidates for council


Regardless, all the best for a speedy recovery.

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Agamemnon wrote:

David...you dodged on the answer.  In fact, your answer sounded like something I'd hear your wife say at a council meeting...all be it at her speaking pace, it would have taken 40 minutes to get out.

Anyway, let me make it even simpler for you...choose A or B below...

A) Ms Wardell is full of $hit because there is at least one qualified female candidate for council

b) Ms Wardell is right and there are no qualified female candidates for council


Regardless, all the best for a speedy recovery.


Hey Bucko!!! No line jumping! I am still waiting for the list of what that woman has done in her two terms!(yes that's right... two terms! Doomers isn't that the mantra "two terms is enough!" Hummmmm??) So back of the line
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Curses, foiled again!!

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I got your Bucko. Probably won't be able to tell you when she is finished with her third term. A real term is 4 years. She did a 2 spot because she wanted to take out Chris Doherty's pick of Mike McCormick. 1800 vote cake walk.

Agame. I don't like either of the questions. MaryAnn is a terrific women. There are  3 women on council qualified. Janet Evans, Judy Gatelli and Robert McGoff.



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David...fair enough.  Funny how Ms Wardell didn't think highly enough of Janet though to note that she was qualified.

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David what exactly are you trying to say about Robert McGoff?? I think that was slightly out of line ... but that's just my opinion ... I don't happen to agree with it.

David is right IHave Janet is a 1 1/2 termer not a two termer on council. Although almost 6 years on council is long enough to have brought forward legislation, so you present a very valid question.

Ag didn't ask if you liked Mrs. Wardell ... what he asked was if you and Janet agree with her statement ... just because you disagree with what she said does not mean that you have to dislike her. I have met her and I think she is a lovely woman. However I think that that statement she made is a load of bull$hit ... but that's just my opinion.



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Ok then what exactly has she done in 1 and 1/2 terms then?  According to you she is sooooooooooo wonderful Davey that I am sure you can come up with at least one or two things she has accomplished....no?




Just for the record... we decide how many years a council person serves.  The period of time they serve is called a term.  She has served 2 terms.... one of 2 years and one of 4 years.

term n. A limited period of time. A period of time that is assigned to a person to serve:

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I was out of line saying that of dear Robert. He is a fine man, civic leader and family man. We all get offended one way or another. He carries more water for Chris than Gunga Din. [Spelling] I guess what really offended  me was him saying there is no need for an investigation of the tax office last week. Rumor has it that he hasn't paid wage taxes in years. I say rumor with a grain. How could one not support finding that 1.8 million of misplaced money. How stupid does Mrs. Flynn think we are? Is she the tax collector or McGovern?

I couldn't answer AG question. What Mrs. Wardell said missed me. We talk very little politics here these days. Mom has landed in our home thank God and it is quite a struggle.

Dearest IHAVE. My name is David. It means beloved in Gods eyes ;}  I expect that respect since I do use my name unlike gutless you.
I recall attempted legislation that failed. That leads me to a former strong leader. Councilman James Doherty!!!!!  Always fought the good fight. His success wasn't in failed legislation, it was his fighting for what is right that made him great.
You probably don't remember his battles. He was a Great and Honorable man. My opinion! Because you fail at some things doesn't make what you attempt bad. OK?
You will soon see that again on May 19th. Not everyone is a hater.

 



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I was out of line saying that of dear Robert. He is a fine man, civic leader and family man. We all get offended one way or another. He carries more water for Chris than Gunga Din. [Spelling]

As you do for the other "side" right?

 I guess what really offended  me was him saying there is no need for an investigation of the tax office last week. Rumor has it that he hasn't paid wage taxes in years. I say rumor with a grain. How could one not support finding that 1.8 million of misplaced money.

Speaking of ....wasn't your wife the "finance chair" during this time of misplaced money??  Wow she was really effective in that department also, I see!

How stupid does Mrs. Flynn think we are? Is she the tax collector or McGovern?

I don't know... how stupid does missy Jan think we are?  She speaks to the public like they are kindergarten age.

I couldn't answer AG question. What Mrs. Wardell said missed me. We talk very little politics here these days. Mom has landed in our home thank God and it is quite a struggle.

Dearest IHAVE. My name is David. It means beloved in Gods eyes ;}  I expect that respect since I do use my name unlike gutless you.

The fact that you use your name doesn't impress me in the least dear.  If you want the loons next door (like fay) at your house that is your business. I on the other hand prefer they keep their distance. 

I recall attempted legislation that failed. That leads me to a former strong leader. Councilman James Doherty!!!!!  Always fought the good fight. His success wasn't in failed legislation, it was his fighting for what is right that made him great. You probably don't remember his battles. He was a Great and Honorable man. My opinion! 

 I remember Mr. Doherty quite well actually.  He was both a fighter and a success dear, not to mention a consumate gentleman. He was able to move legislation to completion, as he knew how to disagree with his fellow councilmen while maintaining their respect.  Unlike your wife unfortunelty, who just is a "verbal bomb thrower" and who others can barely stand as she is such shameless self-promoter, not to mention condesending and obnoxious.


Because you fail at some things doesn't make what you attempt bad. OK?

I am glad you can admit that she is a failure. I guess we can not expect to see a list of accomplishments on city council as a result of that fact.... right?


You will soon see that again on May 19th. Not everyone is a hater.

Perhaps!  She may win.. big deal!  This is a local race in a small town.  I saw what happend when she set her eyes on higher office ..... that was the real test.



 



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David Evans - above you said "Ms. Moyles is a great choice but her baggage is that she is a Greenridge elite with ties to Chris and the power brokers."

I don't know what's going on with Tierney on his connection to the Luzerne county judge scandal (maybe somebody can post some details).

But if anyone's got "baggage and power brokers" behind them, it'd be Tierney and Castellano. Both of them had a big chunk of their campaigns bought and paid for - Mellow plunked down $20k in tickets for Tierney's kickoff and from what I heard DeNaples did the same with Castellano's. So those guys are going to be beholden to those Powers that Be even as they sit on the bench.

But as far as I know, Moyle's not in deep to anyone like that, and FYI, her family's not even from Greenridge originally, and if anything she's gotten by on her credentials, having worked with Democrats and Republicans alike, plus she was able to make a career for herself as a prosecutor for 10 years down in Florida before she came back to Scranton instead of having everything handed to her, so that says a hell of a lot for her as being able to be independent of the political machine in my book. Underdog or no, she's got my vote, hands down.

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dave's a fine one to be referring to anyone with "baggage"
oops sorry ... it's david

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I couldn't answer AG question. What Mrs. Wardell said missed me.


David...with all due respect, there is a difference between "missing" something on one hand and simply pretending that it doesn't exist on the other.

I've pasted the entire letter below.  Now you can't say that you "missed" it.  If you want to simply ignore it because that's the convenient and politically sensitive thing to do, then so be it.  Again, I've highlighted the important part in red.




Published: Friday, April 03, 2009
Updated: Friday, April 3, 2009 4:16 AM EDT
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Editor: Regarding the March 26 letter from councilwomen Judy Gatelli and Sherry Fanucci complaining that the city Democratic Committee failed to endorse any woman in the race for city council: Did they consider that the committee felt there were no women running who are capable of doing the job?

Both of these candidates have been on council for several years and have shown that they are not able to conduct themselves in a professional manner. They have argued with, snickered at, and made fun of speakers. They have rarely provided answers to questions repeatedly asked of them.

Mrs. Fanucci has stated she represents the people who voted for her. Should those who did not vote for her expect any consideration? She embarrasses the city when she attempts to speak on city business since she doesnt understand what she is talking about. She is sarcastic and insults speakers.

When she was council president, Mrs. Gatelli called speakers out of order but she could not control Mrs. Fanucci when she started arguing with speakers. She has pushed for improvements for South Scranton and usually gets what she wants, while other sections of the city are in greater need.

Both voted for several large loans, a hefty tax increase, and budgets that are unrealistic and extreme, after publicly saying that they would not vote for tax increases or any more loans.

Their letter to the editor just proves that these two women are not good candidates. They sound like whiners, who did not get their way so they are taking their marbles and going home.

They should grow up. If they are such terrific representatives, they shouldnt have anything to worry about. If not, the endorsement wouldnt guarantee them a win anyway.

MARY ANN WARDELL

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AG
I guess I will go with door #1 if thats what i'm left with. She must be full of $hit. I named the 3 women and stand by them. OUT OF LINE OR NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

His Girl. I am most defin/baggage, the election results prove it. I'm trying to be good.

Heywood. works for me. Their should be no men in politics. I just wish she would stop struttin her stuff and saying she deserves and is owed the win.  Ask her, she said it.

Ihave, Your an old nag. Dried up, wrinkled and bitter. Get over yourself, take your pet to bed and then go to work with that " I just humped the pooch smile!!
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David...I knew you had it in you. 

For the record, while I will not vote for your wife, I do consider her to be capable of doing the job...all be it for perhaps self-serving reasons.

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davidevans wrote:

Ihave, Your an old nag. Dried up, wrinkled and bitter. Get over yourself, take your pet to bed and then go to work with that " I just humped the pooch smile!!
Kisseswink

 


I didn't say she was a failure you did...so don't get pissy with me because you slipped up and told the truth.  :)

 



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"I just wish she would stop struttin her stuff and saying she deserves and is owed the win"

Hahaa... sounds like you stayed up too late eating Everlasting Gobstoppers and watching Charlie & The Chocolate Factory and got her confused with Veruca Salt! (Or, worse yet, stayed up late watching City Council tapes...)

Doesn't sound like Margie Moyle at all- if anything she's the underdog in the judge race. But hey, I see her around town. I'll ask her next time I see her.

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Even if she said she deserves to win ... is there something wrong with that? Is there something wrong with a woman being confident? Oh that's right when women (in politics) have the belief in themselves, have a good self esteem ... because they know they are qualified and they feel that they should win because of qualifications ... people view it as being stuck up ... "strutting her stuff" ... but here we have men running and nobody gives it a second thought when they "strut their stuff" or they are confident ... they are considered a strong candidate ... again the double standard ...

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Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like the women only because she is a women candidate. If I didn't I would have thrown her out of our party.
All I said is she made a statement and some people were taken aback by it at the womens Dem dinner. Matter of fact, I saw a non judicial candidate take her cards from houses in westside that she left. Got in his a$$ good.
She still comes in second. Sorry!

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Based on qualifications and experience she DOES deserve to win.

Tierney only has civil experience, Castellano only has criminal experience, but she has both civil and criminal experience. Plus, she has far more total experience than either of them, and she has spent vastly more time in a courtroom and in trial than all of them combined. She knows how a courtroom should be properly run, she knows how a trial is to be properly conducted, whereas the others would be relative amateurs in comparison.

As such, given all things being equal and we look strictly at qualifications, she DOES deserve to win.

If you are "taken aback by that" then I'll say it flat out - you have some seriously screwed up priorities about why you are voting for whom.

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second place !!!!
His ads started yesterday!!!!
He has lots of money from the diabling accident{ wink wink } Sen. Mellow got him.
Only about 3 MILLION.
Streight Irish name.


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About that multimillion dollar bus accident injury award that Tierney got... Interesting you bring that up.

Interesting that he was back at work practically the day after he got the money. Obviously it wasn't that much of a disability or hardship.

Interesting that anyone else would have been awarded far, far less in a similar circumstance.

Maybe the dirt on that will come out... Just a matter of when. And the fact that the rest of the story hasn't come out yet should make us all wonder.

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Calm down David ... it is your opinion that Tiernany should win and Heywood and I believe based on Moyle's experience and qualifications she should win. Only time will tell ... and winning a personal lawsuit that benefited him personally ... well that is not something that I would care to add to his qualifications as a lawyer. My opinion you don't have to like it.



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I don't think Tierney's prior legal work for Mellow and other county Democrats as a political insider and helping them in doing hatchet work on contesting opposition candidates' petitions, et cetera exactly helps toward "qualifications" either. It betrays significant bias, whereas Bisignani Moyle is far more independent of the political machine and is far more bipartisan and unbiased.

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He works 9/5 and golfs till whenever.
Love his new Benz. Nicer than ours.
Disability? Hmmmm !!!
I gotta stop the percs. making me even dumber.

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I think David's postings here have been an incredibly effective commercial...against Tierney.

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Democrats:

1.  Tierney
2.  Castellano
3.  Pesota
4.  Moyle

Republicans:

1.  Castellano
2.  Tierney
3.  Moyle
4.  Pesota

As is so frequently pointed out on DD, I am often wrong.  This is just a gut feeling.  Moyle, if she is as smart as I think she is, will use this to lay groundwork for a future race.  Pesota is admirably trying to shore up his defenses against a D.J. challenge in 2011...and has succeeded.

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I think David Evans hinted at the other wild card - whether the rest of the story on Tierney's multi-million dollar award ever comes out. That would kind of change the dynamic a bit.

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If Tierney goes, it gives Frank the edge and moves from 3rd in front of Moyles. {UNIONS}
Still # 2
I agree she wins in two years. She will be forgiven. Still comes #2  to Mark Walsh.

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