I do not think that I am living in the land of Hatchie Malatchie ... that's an interesting take on my views ... You are angry ... you just don't see it ... every time someone posts about liking Chris Doherty your anger rises to the top ... and then a small insult flies ... like the Hatchie Malatchie comment ...
Now back on topic please .... signs .... Doomers is right signs don't vote and I for one just don't understand all of this craziness that is going on with people making others take down signs ... I'm not getting the whole intimidation game that's going on ... not only in the Mayoral race but as someone posted last night it is going on in other races. Lets see so far we have seen it in the Mayoral race ... the Sheriffs race and now in the school board race ... come on ... lets all leave the signs alone and if your neighbor wants a DiBileo or a Doherty sign ... that's their business ... if they want a School Board Slate sign or a Bob Lesh sign ... or perhaps both ... well that's their business ... how does it really impact someone elses life?
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When the story of Dibileo signs gone missing and ending up in the river broke in the paper I agreed that it probably was some loose cannon that supported Doherty acting like fool, Doherty’s response I thought silly until now.
What does Gary really think Doherty is going to say… “No way Gary, I believe in sign stealing” or You know Gary, I think it was my campaign workers so I am going to drop out of the race. You win man!”
So that says to me that Gary is fishing for an angle, a diversion, free attention, just as Doherty claimed.If this is the best Gary can do for an issue for this election he should save his money, if for no other reason it is starting to appear like he is a cry baby.Yes sign stealing is WRONG very WRONG, however it is also a common event during any election.Candidates generally just accept that it will happen to them.They also accept that some of their kookier supporters will do it on their behalf even if it is without their approval. It is pretty rare for a candidate to cry about it to this extent.So in my opinion,
this is a huge attempt at attention for free, and a diversion.Very weak Gary, very weak.
...Scranton is hit hard by the recession ...home foreclosures are at a record high ...people are struggling to get by ...the unemployment rate is going towards a modern high
...and Gary's secret campaign weapon? "Chris, your people are stealing my signs man!".
Shrewd...very shrewd.
For his next issue, maybe he can slam Doherty on his lack of response to the Emerald Ash Borer invasion.
(Gary's next secret weapon?)
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
"Given the nature of the instant election, and given reports received by my campaign that the perpetrators of this sign rampage are2, if not 4, young men (early 20s), employed by the City of Scranton, some with ties to its Police Department, perhaps it would be in the best interests of each of our respective campaigns and those of the residents and voters of our city, that the criminal investigation into the complaint(s) made in this matter be turned over to the Pennsylvania State Police, the District Attorneys Office of Lackawanna County or the Attorney Generals Office of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. "
I hope Gary has proof of this accusation involving the Scranton Police Dept and isn't relying on rumors coming from a certain politcal activist message board.
HOLY MOLY I thought the police hated Doherty so why help him? If (and this is a huge if) they are involved are they really helping Doherty? Or Gary? Inquiring minds want to know ...well that is after Gary outlines his solution to the evil Emerald Ash Borer invasion.
Have any of you gone to WNEP.com and viewed this tape ... I saw one person ... could not tell the age ... did not see the vehicle they were driving ... did however see someone taking a sign out of a yard ... but I have to ask this ... how many people in the city of Scranton feel the need to put up a camera on their political signs ... and one that has night vision? The guy looked like an actor to me ... looking around ... couldn't see really good as the person never looked directly into the camera ... and how ironic was this that it happened right after a report of DiBileo harrassing a mentally handicapped woman about a sign ... and by the way where the Doherty sign once was there is now a DiBileo sign ... and this was supposedly caught on tape ... securtiy cameras from a business in the neighborhood caught it from what I understand. It's all to throw the people off that story and on to the DiBileo sign theft story ... just as the Mayor said ... a diversion ... hmmmmmmm ...
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I thought Dan Hubbard said that our crime was much worse than Wilkes-Barre's crime as of late .... hmmmmm ... I guess he considers the sign stealing a major crime ... although I do not condone this behavior ... I think that everyone should just leave the damn signs alone. Including Joe and Dan. Just kidding Dan don't get your panties in a bunch!
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Dan "Retraction" Hubbard is the most uptight guy I've ever seen. It's as if he walks around with a permanent wedgie. He seems incapable of doing anything other than bitching and moaning about things.
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
This thing with stealing signs ... as I have said before I do not condone this behavior ... however as long as I can remember people have been stealing political signs ... it's not that this is something new and unique to this particular election ... and I still say that I find it incredibley ironic that Joe Pilchesky was called and was able to photograph the signs for his website so quickly .... staged that is what this was.
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You are wrong about the signs. NO stage. Our team signs were in the river also. I took all of them out including Gary's. Nothing worse in a river than litter. Signs bedamned but they do cost lots. It's sad stealing them is done but goes with the territory. Nothing underhanded is going on with the complaints. Really pisses me off though. By the way, the signs were in the river 2 days before the photos.
Seems like they were all dumped in one place, relatively easy to find and recover. If somebody really wanted them gone you'd think they could have done a little better than that. And meanwhile, what's going on with the videotape?
David ... I find it very hard to believe that they were in the river for "two days" and they did not wash away. Now if you knew that they were in the river for two days ... why was this not reported to Gary by you? And if that is truly the case then why was Gary not upset about it until the accusation of harrassment of a mentally challenged woman over sign placement took place? Your concern for the environment is wonderful David ... but let me ask you this ... Why didn't you pluck out all of the signs if you thought that this was no big deal ... and you were trying to eliminate litter from the river? Now I am only guessing that you didn't take them all out as you are the one who stated that they were there for two days before the photo's were taken ... or did you put them back for the photo op? Just wondering ... seems a bit fishy if you ask me.
And I saw that tape on the Newswatch 16 website ... and it is my opinion ... that to me the whole thing looked staged ... to me it was fishy that someone would have a camera trained on the sign in their yard ... equipped with night vision ... and they caught a person on tape stealing a DiBileo sign ... I find that unusual ... so it is again ... My Opinion that it looks staged ... you don't have to agree with that ... and that's ok ... like I said it is MY opinion.
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My God this is just about the stupidest "issue" out there. Sign stealing? What's next, will there be accusations that Doherty lit a bag of poop on fire on DiBileo's front porch?
If supposedly Gary has all this ammunition to use against Doherty in the election, then why resort to the whining about this? If this is a "crime" (although I think the signs are the functional equivalent of seasonal litter), then file a police report and move the f^%k on.
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
If this is a couple of kids stealing signs as a prank, it's a non-issue. As a kid, I did my share of mishief like knocking over snowmen and kicking piles of leaves.
But...if the signs were stolen by persons working for the administration...with the blessing of the administration....then it is an issue.
I've been hearing rumors, and it sounds like we will all know something soon enough; whether it was staged or real. I try not to spread rumors without facts, so we just have to wait on this one.
Wait a second !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ya all didn't know Chris lit a bag of poop on fire. He left it our porch, not Gary's.
Lus, The signs were scattered on both sides of the riverbed. They were broken and torn. I thought I did pluck them all. Don't know about a mental person. Signs found on West Mtn in pile also. I don't speak much to Gary. We don't have his sign in our yard. Although our neighbors have the Doherty signs we, out of respect to them do not post a Gary sign. Signs don't vote! Chris has a ton of signs but is in deep deep poop and doesn't even know it. I will leave you with this. THINGS ARE NEVER WHAT THEY SEEM !!!!!!!!!!
David...that wasn't Chris that left the poop...it was a cadre from the ICN...you know, the Italian Catholic Network. There not as visible as the "other" ICN, but they do have a much better sense for the ironic.
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::: We don't have his sign in our yard. Although our neighbors have the Doherty signs we, out of respect to them do not post a Gary sign. :::
Ya.....more like so you don't piss them off anymore than just living near them does....oh and since they know Missy Jans politics, I guess they don't much mind offending you by both supporting Doherty LOL
-- Edited by IHavehadenoughofhaters on Wednesday 22nd of April 2009 05:48:41 PM