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How come that Nelson guyis so quiet lately ? Did he retire with his health care yet ? or maybe he just realized how crazy they all sound and he just went away to do some police work for a change ? has he made any arrests since the exam scam era ? How old is he anyway ? Doesnt he qualify for medicare yet ? Wasn't he a CETA cop for about 17 yrs until he got the answers ? SOmw questions I would love answered. I would also love to know why the federal government never persued the exam scam case like it hasd everything else that came down the pike.

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Uh oh Taylor now Sherri baby will be mad at you.... You are supposed to take the city workers side at face value and repeat over and over Doherty bad..... city workers good..... Doherty bad.... city workers good..... LOL LOL

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In response to your questions Taylor....mine are in [blue bold]. I have much more sympathy for the police than I do the firemen in this whole contract dispute ordeal. Being a cop is a tough job, and I personally think they deserve an annual raise that allows them to keep pace with inflation. Unlike many of the firemen, the nature of their job doen't allow much time for other employment.


How come that Nelson guyis so quiet lately ? [See the thread I started on the long-term debt. Nelson has been crying for a while now about a quarter of a billion dollar debt; problem is that the debt is more like a third of that...unless you use GANAP (as oppsed to GAAP) Accounting..."Generally Accepted by Nelson Accounting Stardards"...which is accepted only by Nelson, Pilchesky and apparently Shari.] Did he retire with his health care yet ? or maybe he just realized how crazy they all sound and he just went away to do some police work for a change ? [I look at it this way: Nelson sounded like an a$$, so now he has to be quiet for a bit; don't worry...he will be back. This is the same guy who boycotts the Times but yet referrs to it all the time. Note to Nelson...If I were, for example, boycotting Time Magazine, I don't think I would be quoting and referring to Time magazine articles all the time.] has he made any arrests since the exam scam era ? [I'm thinking he's better off not making any anyway.] How old is he anyway ? Doesnt he qualify for medicare yet ? Wasn't he a CETA cop for about 17 yrs until he got the answers ? SOmw questions I would love answered. I would also love to know why the federal government never persued the exam scam case like it hasd everything else that came down the pike. [I don't know much about the whole exam-scam thing, so I won't "Pull A Pilchesky" and implicate Nelson in the absence of facts.]

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A few corrections:
It's Barney Fife
Nelson did not retire.
Police work for a change? Nelson is a juvenile detective, works day shift and appears at council on his own time.
Nelson makes numerous arrests and is a fine officer. If he wasn't a fine officer, do you think for one minute he would get away with berating the mayor every week? If he screwed up he would be one of the first officers to get the pink slip.
Nelson was not involved with examscam. Like Lus always says, before someone makes accusations about someone, they should have proof to back it up. Is this a double standard again? I'm held to a certain standard but Taylor is not?
Much to Ag's naivety aside, maybe someone fixed the examscam issue. One person took the fall for that. Everyone else skated. No, that doesn't happen in Scranton. That Captain, alone, hatched that caper, carried it out and took the hit. I'm sure no one else was involved or protected.

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Correction: The officer who took the hit for examscam, I believe was a lieutenant, not a captain. Yep, a lieutenant did it on his own. The chief didn't know, the mayor didn't know, the captains didn't know and the paper didn't know. Right Ag? That's crazy of me to think differently.

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1st of all, no one accused anyone of anything. I was simply asking a few questions, and thanks for clearing up that mess. But no one in the McNulty administration did anythng without the Mayor knowing. And it was an Acting Captain, and 2 civil service commishioner who went to JAIL. I think that much is public knowledge. I think i will do some research on this subject before the next primary.

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Told ya Sherri baby would be pissed!!

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Doherty never did and never will work with the unions he was a union buster from the go.

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Ihave,
I don't get pissed, but I am just in awe of your mesmerizing responses. Wow.

Taylor,
Wasn't Cookie Thomas a Lieutenant? Maybe he was a captain. I stand corrected.

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I wasn't trying to mesmerize you, just poke fun at you. You need to lighten up a tad. Everything with you is doom and gloom. Get over yourself, what goes on in the city is not the end of the world as we know it. LOL

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For the record, I was going to comment on Shari's postings in this thread, but by and large I can't figure out what the hell he is saying.

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That's ok Ag. If you did understand it, you couldn't refute it anyway. Again.

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sharilewis wrote:

A few corrections:
It's Barney Fife
Nelson did not retire.
Police work for a change? Nelson is a juvenile detective, works day shift and appears at council on his own time.
Nelson makes numerous arrests and is a fine officer. If he wasn't a fine officer, do you think for one minute he would get away with berating the mayor every week? If he screwed up he would be one of the first officers to get the pink slip.
Nelson was not involved with examscam. Like Lus always says, before someone makes accusations about someone, they should have proof to back it up. Is this a double standard again? I'm held to a certain standard but Taylor is not?
Much to Ag's naivety aside, maybe someone fixed the examscam issue. One person took the fall for that. Everyone else skated. No, that doesn't happen in Scranton. That Captain, alone, hatched that caper, carried it out and took the hit. I'm sure no one else was involved or protected.


Shari I began wondering about this ... I did a search and well I could not find a hell of a lot about this ... but what I did find kind of refutes the above highlited (red) statement that you made ....

One person did not take the fall and not everyone else skated. Here is a quote from a book that I found when I did a search on this.

Quoted for Mayor David Wenzels book: Scranton's Mayors
Mayor Wenzel swore in Mike Balcirus as Chief of Police on January 27, Balcirus replaced Frank Karam who served as acting chief for just fie months after Dan Ebersole stepped down. The police department had been in a state of disarray because of a scandal that occurred in the dying days of the McNulty Administration in late 1985, a civil service test for new patrolmen was compromised. Wenzel called for a federal investigation that resulted in a police captain, a secretary in the mayor's office and a city worker in the Civil Service office serving jail time.


It looks to me Shari that 3 people fell for this and three people served jail time. Not just one as you indicated.

In another post you say the Mayor didn't know ... but I'm thinking that if his secretary was implicated then more likely than not ... he knew ... however I do not have proof of that and apparently neither did the federal investigators working on this or he surely would have been occupying a jail cell along with the others involved.

Source: Scranton's Mayors - Google Book Search



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The secretary and the civil service person were slapped in the hand. Cookie Thomas to the big hit. He was the fall guy. I was being facetious about the others not knowing what happened and that was my point. Everyone knew and one person took the biggest hit. Some were protected in my opinion. I admit I did forget the other two were involved, but you didn't see much about them during the coverage of the events. Cookie Thomas was focus and if you ask anyone to recall who was involved, his name is out there. Again, my point is this. Do you believe this was hatched by just him (or the other two) without any knowledge of the bigger players? I find that hard to believe which lends to my thinking that people were protected.

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Oh damn it ...ok we confess... we know who protected them it was the ICBN..no wait....damn that's wrong....the IBM errrr...damn no......oh wait I remember it was the super-secret-highly-deniable..if I tell you I have to...well you know.. INC damn nope <throws up my hands> ooooooh now I know..... ICN.... Ta-daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! Thank heavens we have super sleuths like you around so these secret societies can be exposed for the diabolical clubs they are!!! ;)

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LusOnlyVoice wrote:

sharilewis wrote:

A few corrections:
It's Barney Fife
Nelson did not retire.
Police work for a change? Nelson is a juvenile detective, works day shift and appears at council on his own time.
Nelson makes numerous arrests and is a fine officer. If he wasn't a fine officer, do you think for one minute he would get away with berating the mayor every week? If he screwed up he would be one of the first officers to get the pink slip.
Nelson was not involved with examscam. Like Lus always says, before someone makes accusations about someone, they should have proof to back it up. Is this a double standard again? I'm held to a certain standard but Taylor is not?
Much to Ag's naivety aside, maybe someone fixed the examscam issue. One person took the fall for that. Everyone else skated. No, that doesn't happen in Scranton. That Captain, alone, hatched that caper, carried it out and took the hit. I'm sure no one else was involved or protected.


Shari I began wondering about this ... I did a search and well I could not find a hell of a lot about this ... but what I did find kind of refutes the above highlited (red) statement that you made ....

One person did not take the fall and not everyone else skated. Here is a quote from a book that I found when I did a search on this.

Quoted for Mayor David Wenzels book: Scranton's Mayors
Mayor Wenzel swore in Mike Balcirus as Chief of Police on January 27, Balcirus replaced Frank Karam who served as acting chief for just fie months after Dan Ebersole stepped down. The police department had been in a state of disarray because of a scandal that occurred in the dying days of the McNulty Administration in late 1985, a civil service test for new patrolmen was compromised. Wenzel called for a federal investigation that resulted in a police captain, a secretary in the mayor's office and a city worker in the Civil Service office serving jail time.


It looks to me Shari that 3 people fell for this and three people served jail time. Not just one as you indicated.

In another post you say the Mayor didn't know ... but I'm thinking that if his secretary was implicated then more likely than not ... he knew ... however I do not have proof of that and apparently neither did the federal investigators working on this or he surely would have been occupying a jail cell along with the others involved.

Source: Scranton's Mayors - Google Book Search


Shari .... you are the on who made the statement that there was only one fall guy and that the bigger players (Mayor) didn't know ... if you see in red ... I say ... more likely than not ... he knew.


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The secretary and the civil service person were slapped in the hand. Cookie Thomas to the big hit. He was the fall guy. I was being facetious about the others not knowing what happened and that was my point. Everyone knew and one person took the biggest hit. Some were protected in my opinion. I admit I did forget the other two were involved, but you didn't see much about them during the coverage of the events. Cookie Thomas was focus and if you ask anyone to recall who was involved, his name is out there. Again, my point is this. Do you believe this was hatched by just him (or the other two) without any knowledge of the bigger players? I find that hard to believe which lends to my thinking that people were protected.


I think Shari that being these other two ... the secretary and the civil service worker ... went to jail and served time ... well that is a bit more than a slap on the wrist ... I know if I had to spend time in jail I would think of it as more than a slap on the wrist ... a slap to me might mean I got probation or house arrest ... but jail ... well that is more than a slap.

I say one thing on this ... you are right ... people remember Cookie Thomas ... and he more likely than not did take a bigger hit for this ... and I think one reason so many people remember him ... is Rock 107 ... every day at that time we were serenaded by a little ditty that Daniels and Websters wrote and played at least one time a day during their morning show ... for months ... I believe the little ditty was Called "They call him Cookie" ... and one of the lines if I remember correctly was "They call him Cookie, Cookie the king of exam scam ... " I have a CD somewhere with this little song on it ... but I will have to dig to find it if I still have it and didn't throw it away. They helped to keep his name out there in this situation which they talked about everyday for months and would follow up the discussion by playing that song. I remember it well as I always listened on my way to work ....



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davidevans wrote:

Capt.******** is the name. Former Lt. ****



Can you tell me why you brought up the name of a retired cop who had nothing to do with "examscam"?
Be careful when casting aspersions Mr. Evans, or someone might start writing about your sham marriage. It's a small town...


Edited to remove an innocent parties name ... the original post has been deleted.



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Balko I have taken down the original post and I have edited your post. I should have done that earlier but didn't give much thought to the name that was put out there and for that I do apologize.

I would appreciate it if you would not put anything up about what you call Mr. Evans "Sham of a marriage" ... and I ask for that not so much for Mr. Evans as I do believe that he would defend his marriage to his last breath ... but I ask to preserve the integrity of our site.

In the future if you have a problem with a particular post ... please do not hesitate to contact me ... or one of the moderators of this board and we will review it and take the appropriate actions. But please let us leave the personal attacks and dirty innuendo to the kids across the hall.

I thank you in advance for your cooperation and I apologize to you for not taking care of that post sooner.

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The dog abides.....

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Thank you so much ... you don't know how much I appreciate this.

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Think waaaaayyyyy back. Yes to Cookie and **** doesn't get a pass.

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Post proof of the involvement of **** and I will be more than happy to leave the post as it stands ... however if this name is brought out again with no proof to back the statement this thread will be closed down.

-- Edited by LusOnlyVoice at 08:33, 2009-02-01

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