In Shari's first breath ... ::: ... Additionally, you stress the same Times rhetoric that somehow the unions ran or run the city. You are truly a disciple of the Scranton Times. I thought you were smarter than that, but apparently you are not. ... ::::
And in her next breath ... ::: ... How do I know about the courts deciding contracts till 2014? I read Ag. http://www.scrantontimes.com/articles/2009/03/20/news/sc_times_ trib.20090320.a.pg4.tt20appeal_s1.2383705_loc.txt.... ... :::
She won't buy it, but she sure as hell likes to quote from it when it suits her. She READS Ag, she reads. And she cuts and pastes, and don't you forget it. ------------------------------- and from balko ... ::: Girl Thursday: I started to compose a lengthy reply to your post, but then thought better of it. You obviously drank the Kool -Aid. :::
Balko, instead of commenting on my choice of beverage, how about you man up and comment about what was said, not HOW it was said.
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Ag, you outdid yourself this time. But thank you since I consider that a compliment. I don't fancy myself to be that informed as Nancy or David, but I'll take it!
Naturally as you are more than likely one of them. :)
As far as the Pilchesky’s, I'll say it again (for the hundreth time), I am not concerned about what they do. Again, their website is a vehicle to get information out to people that you cannot or will not hear in the media. What they do or did it their problem, not mine.
I will say again (for the hundredth time) that you believe the end justifies the means…if hanging with scumbags is required to get what you want so be it!!Very admirable! Very impressive!
You kep refering to the unions under Connors like you insist what you read in the Times is real. Let me educate you again. The unions (all of them) took the biggest cuts in their history under Jimmy Connors. Your quote that the unions were "relatively happy" under mayor Connors is completely false. The only thing different between Connors and Doherty is Connors didn't enjoy screwing over the city employees.
As a person who was friendly with a union worker from the Connors’ days….that my deluded friend is called rewriting history…Connors was regarded as a union friend and you know it!
It appears to be a sport to Doherty. Screwing with family's lives and livelyhoods gives him pleasure.
That is a rather strong comment can you give a few examples where Doherty demonstrates enjoyment upon implementation of his policies…please be specific.
Connors used the state and the distressed city laws to clobber them, but without the meanspiritness that Doherty utilizes.
If I remember correctly, Connors fought the distressed city label tooth and nail. He was ‘overruled’ so to speak by a city council led by Chris Doherty.I believe something like that is really how it was... wasn’t it?
Additionally, you stress the same Times rhetoric that somehow the unions ran or run the city. You are truly a disciple of the Scranton Times. I thought you were smarter than that, but apparently you are not. You state the city's workforce is still oversized and you base that one what? Please elaborate on your vast knowledge of ratio between workers and workload. How do I know about the courts deciding contracts till 2014? I read Ag. http://www.scrantontimes.com/articles/2009/03/20/news/sc_times_trib. 20090320.a.pg4.tt20appeal_s1.2383705_loc.txt........ or I can just ask my better half. Try it someday, reading the truth instead of taking the easy way out by reading what the Scranton Times wants you to hear and repeating what you read like it's gospel.
Did I just read this right?... you say: “you stress the same Times rhetoric that somehow the unions ran or run the city.” Then you say…… “How do I know about the courts deciding contracts till 2014? I read Ag.” then you cite your source of information
You and sheep like you are the reason why this region is the most corrupt area of the country. You believe what people tell you without taking a moment to find out if it's true.
OMG!!! Your not lumping people are you??? I know you hate that!! Take a moment and read the audit I posted. There you will see where the city is financially and not the lies the mayor or the Times tells you.
You want me to read an article by the Times? I thought they speak with forked tongue and are to be banished….shunned…..taken over….sent for immediate brain reprogramming…investigated for possible war crimes? Well... call me ironic!! Again! J
Or is it more important to spend time disecting a mosty train wreck of a web site and a person who cannot raise your taxes, Humph speaking of taxes think you can get him to pay his…no?waste your money on his own personal political desires Really how much money and time (which is money btw) have been spent on his ridiculous lawsuits? Or for that matter on the lawsuits you and yours keep filing? or divde and run a city into the ground that you profess you love. Oh clearly you don’t read over there enough… he doesn’t divide people... really??Last time I checked that is exactly what he does….
You're the problem AG. Fess up to it and do something about it. If not, lets just be fat and happy, watch American Idol and sit around and bitch about our children moving away for this corrupt area.
Last time I checked the only one bitching was you.Girl was actually scolded for stating she is happy…. damn what a miscreant. She has no right to be happy until the municipal unions say she can be happy. Got that Girl!!??You wipe that smile right off your face.
Balko,save your breath. Fine post but no one is listening. They're obsessed with Pilchesky and nothing more.
Oh boy I wonder why we mention Pilchesky a lot <hummmmmmm thinking thinking> oh do you think it might be because that’s the focus of the website Sherlock???!!As I have stated before I simply can not understand staying somewhere that you feel sucks so much.If you don’t like the work conditions, living conditions, or the political atmosphere…..either get a new job (I am almost certain other towns, cities, and states have police and fire departments) move to a another town, city or state (I hear Arizona is great for people with allergies but really feel free to pick your own state you have 49 besides this one to choose from.) or put your money where your mouth is, run for office and see if you can others to support your vision of “change”…..or you can sit back, get fat, watch the political games from behind a anonymous computer, bitch and bite the ankles of the ones who are trying to make things better.Just my opinion!
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-- Edited by His Girl Thursday on Tuesday 31st of March 2009 08:34:56 PM
Additionally, you stress the same Times rhetoric that somehow the unions ran or run the city. You are truly a disciple of the Scranton Times. I thought you were smarter than that, but apparently you are not. You state the city's workforce is still oversized and you base that one what? Please elaborate on your vast knowledge of ratio between workers and workload. How do I know about the courts deciding contracts till 2014? I read Ag. http://www.scrantontimes.com/articles/2009/03/20/news/sc_times_trib. 20090320.a.pg4.tt20appeal_s1.2383705_loc.txt........ or I can just ask my better half. Try it someday, reading the truth instead of taking the easy way out by reading what the Scranton Times wants you to hear and repeating what you read like it's gospel. You and sheep like you are the reason why this region is the most corrupt area of the country. You believe what people tell you without taking a moment to find out if it's true.
You Shari just criticized Ag for reading the times for his information and in the very next breath you state that you get your information from the Times ... why is it ok for you to read the times and believe it and Ag ... well Ag is considered a sheep if he reads and article in the times and believes it ... make up your mind either the times is full of nothing but lies and bull$hit ... or it is a reliable source of information ... you can't have it both ways dear.
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I am sorry I had not realized when I wrote my above post that two other poster has picked up on this ...
And one other thing Shari ... As Pilchesky's focus is exposing Doherty's Deceit ... our focus is exposing Pilchesky's Deceit ... so that's why we speak of him so often ... I would have thought that you understood that when you signed up as the name of our site afterall is ... "PIlcheskyDeceit" ... hmmmmm ... I thought you were smarter than you appear to be dear ... sorry!
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Apparently the Time is biased...when Shari says it is biased. It's also not biased...when Shari says that it is not biased.
Anyone else detecting a pattern here?
If anything, Shari is consistent with his/her mentor Pilchesky...you know the same guy tha slams other for not paying taxes while he himself apparently doesn't pay them either.
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
Maybe Shari is Pilchesky ..... LOL ... just kidding Shari!
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LOL .... good one! You do know that I am Joe Brazil on occassion ... it's great fun ... sometimes I am John Brazil ... last week I think I was Judy Gatelli ... maybe this week I will be ..... Janet Evans .... nahhhh ... I don't like frappachino's ...
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To Girl Thursday: Man Up? The dog has likely left more testosterone on strange women's sheets than you will ever produce, so you may want to consider a more careful interrogatory. I didn't want to waste my time posting a lenghty reply, only to have it ignored. Since I have a few minutes on my hands right now, I'll serve up batting practice so you can swing away.
Taxes can not and will not be lowered because of the debts incurred by Chris Doherty. There I said it.
We agree.
But --- if you think about it rationally (before going off on a Chris Doherty tirade), how much money was spent by any administration before this one - for ANY reason to make this city better? Hmmm??? Anyone ??? You got The Steamtown Mall. End of story.
Well, Connors was in office for 12 years before Doherty. Connors was hamstrung by the financial situation, and PEL was much more strict with his spending than they are with Chris Doherty. In fact, Councilman Chris Doherty even requested (and received) state sanctions that completely cut off all state funding to the city, because he "violated" the recovery plan. Connors spent his years treading water and accomplished little except street paving and putting band-aids on the rest of the infrastructure.
Jim McNulty was so far back I hardly remember him, but he was actaully responsible for the Boscov's deal with the mall, NOT Connors as most people think.
Before Doherty: There was no work done downtown. There were empty storefronts and dilapidated buildings from one end of Wyoming Ave to the other. Things are changing downtown and nothing any of you nay-sayers say can change that.
Tink's, Flashback's and the Metro (Now Scats) were all pre-Doherty. Bee-Witching, Lenore's, Scanlan's, (now relocated) Diversified, Cinemark theatre, The business incubator....I am sure I am missing a few others. Sure, some of these businesses are closed, and some new ones opened. I am not going to name every business that has closed during Doherty's tenure. Businesses do come and go without interference from any administration. (Something Agamemnon mentioned a little earlier) As far as new construction, there have been quite a bit of new buildings that have been erected. Several parking garages, Southern Union, and the 500 of Lackawanna facades. The look has improved. My criticism is that most of this work has been done in areas that are KOZ status, and will not generate property tax for years....if ever. It creates an "illusion" of progress. If new buildings don't bring new jobs, or new tax contributions, waht is the return for investing millions of tax dollars? The 500 of Lackawanna is funded through state revenue (our state taxes). The parking garages were paid for by city tax dollars and grants (more tax money). Before Doherty: There wasn't a "bad" neighborhood in all of Scranton -- they were ALL bad -- the Hill, South Side and West Side were among the worst. Cleaning up Nay Aug Park was definitely a plus for the Hill residents and nothing any of you nay-sayers say can change that.
I disagree. The Hill Section was cleaned up in the early 90's. By 1995 many "blighted" homes were torn down on North Irving Avenue, and the drug dealers were run off. (I lived in the Hill during those years) Bob Neveroski, of the Hill Neighborhood association, as well as Ed Pisano, were instrumental in making sure the neighborhoods were safer.
South Side was still a nice place to live in the 90's. It is only in the last 5 years that things have spiraled downward. The decline has been steady, is continuing, despite the "park" on Orchard Street.
Before Doherty: There was panic at the disco every time a raindrop hit the Lackawanna River. There were people up in arms from Carbondale all the way the hell down to Old Forge (and points south). These municipalities have worked on levies and dikes from upstream all the way down the line. You divert water upstream (Carbondale and Olyphant) the banks are definitely going to widen downstream (Scranton). The only people that should be bitching about the work Doherty has done in Scranton, are the people downstream. If the Lower Green Ridge people have a gripe about the floodwaters - bitch to the Olyphant Borough and Carbondale CIty/Twp Administrators, because it's THEIR fault the banks are overflowing in Lower Green Ridge. Chris Doherty has made a valiant effort to divert the flood waters along the Lackawanna and nothing any of you nay-sayers say can change that.
Did Chris Doherty have anything to do with the flood control project? I believe the Army Corps of engineers ahndled that with federal dollars.
Before Doherty: Many people who worked in the city of Scranton had to park outside the city or get soaked at a meter. Friends of mine had to park in a lot Washington Ave on the other side of Lackawanna Ave, some parked all the way up in Elm Park's lot and the university or on the other side of the Spruce Street bridge and hoof their way in. On a personal note, I appreciate the fact that there is a parking garage around the corner from my office. I have to pay to park there, but I have the convenience of not having to shovel my car out or have the sun beating down on it all day. Did it cost money to build it? YES. Do I have to help defray the cost by paying my taxes and coughing up a few bucks a month for that convenience? YES. Am I bitching about it? NO. Call me spoiled, but nothing any of you nay-sayers say can change the fact that it costs money for conveniences.
Yes it does cost money for conveniences. It's not just your tax dollars paying for those garages, it's the tax dollars of every taxpayer in the city. Glad we could oblige.
So, yes, Chris Doherty HAS done alot for the city and he has had to spend money to do it. Maybe he hasn't done what YOU wanted him to do when he got in office, but he hasn't been sitting on his hands in his office for eight years. No, the man's not perfect and he hasn't gotten everything right, but Gary Dibilio ??? please ... The only thing he was good for on council was a poor attempt at placating the legionnaires.
No he hasn't been sitting on his hands. He has been spedning money we don't have, and continued to borrow more.
Someone challenged another poster on what they would do differently. How about this for starters? Number one, impose a some type of user fee for non-profits. College faculty and students, and hospital staff and patients, all drive on city streets, and consume public services such as police, fire, and DPW. Since these tax-exempt bodies continue to absorb tax paying properties from the tax rolls, the city must act to fill the ever increasing void. Soory folks, new sidewalks on Mulberry Street don't pay for city services.
Next, how about adopting the much maligned commuter tax? It was unpopular, but it was legal. My relatives who live outside of Philadelphia pay one because they work in the city, and Scranton could do the same thing. It would take some legal wrangling, to be sure, but how else do we stop the exodus of people heading to Dunmore, Moosic, Clarks Summit, etc. etc., where the wage tax is only 1%?
Finally, reign in the Scranton school district. They are responsible for the biggest chunk of our tax costs. The taxpayer base is shrinking, but the population has actually seen an uptick. More people on subsidized incomes have moved to the area. The school district has been pretty much immune from the recovery plan. Shouldn't they share the burden?
(I hate these long-ass posts ... even I am sick and tired of me ..)
Connors spent his years treading water and accomplished little except street paving and putting band-aids on the rest of the infrastructure. And that's OK with you? He paved a few streets and band-aided the city until the next guy can come in to clean it up. Well, that is what Chris Doherty did. ANY money Doherty spent (or spends) is more than Connors even dreamed of spending. Connors placated the city, while Doherty stood up, spent the money and actually DID something to make the city better. Did he overspend? In my opinion, only on some of his choices of admin and their salaries - but the construction in the city is a good thing.
Jim McNulty was so far back I hardly remember him, but he was actaully responsible for the Boscov's deal with the mall, NOT Connors as most people think. In most people's eyes, Connors was in office when the mall came to fruition, so they give him and Big Jim credit.
Tink's, Flashback's and the Metro (Now Scats) were all pre-Doherty. Bee-Witching, Lenore's, Scanlan's, (now relocated) Diversified, Cinemark theatre, The business incubator....I am sure I am missing a few others. FAST food, FAST drinks, FAST information, FAST vehicles, FAST everything. Every business opening in this day and age is about instant gratification and personal excess. Buy it BIG, buy it FAST and buy it NOW. I can't name all the names either, but how many tattoo parlors do we have in the city now? New Coffee shops? How many comic book stores (for cripe's sake)? Convenient Stores? Bars? Fast food restaurants? Art Galleries? Regular restaurants? Car dealerships? Did I say Bars? Gas stations? Walmart/Target/TJMaxx/Marshall's are popping up all over the place. Bulk stores are everywhere. Some in Scranton, some outside the city limits. But they're there and people are buying buying buying. Did Chris Doherty have something to do with this? Some, but not all. Will he get any credit for it? No, but he'll be the culprit when something goes awry.
Before Doherty: There was panic at the disco every time a raindrop hit the Lackawanna River. There were people up in arms from Carbondale all the way the hell down to Old Forge (and points south). These municipalities have worked on levies and dikes from upstream all the way down the line. You divert water upstream (Carbondale and Olyphant) the banks are definitely going to widen downstream (Scranton). The only people that should be bitching about the work (again -- I inadvertently gave Doherty credit for the work because he's in the Mayor's office -- just like Connors got the credit for the Steamtown Mall -- my mistake and my apology) THE ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS has done in Scranton, are the people downstream. If the Lower Green Ridge people have a gripe about the floodwaters - bitch to the Olyphant Borough and Carbondale CIty/Twp Administrators, because it's THEIR fault the banks are overflowing in Lower Green Ridge. The Army Corps of Engineers and Chris Doherty have made a valiant effort to divert the flood waters along the Lackawanna and nothing any of you nay-sayers say can change that. And again, the only people who should be up in arms about the work done in Scranton are the people downstream.
Call me spoiled, but nothing any of you nay-sayers say can change the fact that it costs money for conveniences. Yes it does cost money for conveniences. It's not just your tax dollars paying for those garages, it's the tax dollars of every taxpayer in the city. Glad we could oblige. Oh please -- quit your whining and bitching about having to spend a nickel for me to park in a garage. Granted, I may have a little more money than the next guy, but I certainly am not rolling in dough. However, I feel I have to take some responsibility for the betterment of the city. No, not every tax paying citizen uses the parking garages, some people don't drive, I gotcha. I don't utilize COLTS busses, but I pay my county taxes. I don't utilize any of the Senior Centers, but I pay my county taxes. Some people don't utilize the Scranton Schools, but still must pay that whopper of a bill. Everyone has a gripe about SOMEthing - and yes, taxes are a biggie. But when that plow comes by my house when there's eight inches of snow on the ground that I don't have to shovel, well, I am glad I paid my city taxes. No he hasn't been sitting on his hands. He has been spedning money we don't have, and continued to borrow more. What would you rather him do? NOTHING? No progress? No revitalization? No preservation? Use substandard materials to save a buck? Pick the lowest bidder JUST because he is the lowest bidder and not the best contractor? Quit your crying.
Someone challenged another poster on what they would do differently. How about this for starters? Number one, impose a some type of user fee for non-profits. College faculty and students, and hospital staff and patients, all drive on city streets, and consume public services such as police, fire, and DPW. Since these tax-exempt bodies continue to absorb tax paying properties from the tax rolls, the city must act to fill the ever increasing void. Soory folks, new sidewalks on Mulberry Street don't pay for city services. You have a very good point about the non-profits and I wholeheartedly agree with you.
Next, how about adopting the much maligned commuter tax? It was unpopular, but it was legal. My relatives who live outside of Philadelphia pay one because they work in the city, and Scranton could do the same thing. It would take some legal wrangling, to be sure, but how else do we stop the exodus of people heading to Dunmore, Moosic, Clarks Summit, etc. etc., where the wage tax is only 1%? If they've got people paying one fee for so long -- no municipal body is going to lower a fee. It just won't be done -- here or anywhere else.
Finally, reign in the Scranton school district. They are responsible for the biggest chunk of our tax costs. The taxpayer base is shrinking, but the population has actually seen an uptick. More people on subsidized incomes have moved to the area. The school district has been pretty much immune from the recovery plan. Shouldn't they share the burden? Absolutely -- let's get Bill Courtright and Janet Evans right on that. And while we're at it, we can get Gary Dibilio in on it as well. But wait .. weren't they all on council together a few years back tackling that issue? Wha ..? What was that?
Just my thoughts anyway. and mine as well.
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-- Edited by His Girl Thursday on Wednesday 1st of April 2009 09:35:51 AM
Uh Huh. The recurring theme I read in you post is "quit whining". Okay, I guess I'm just supposed to sit back and let the administration spend money recklessly and call it progress.
You must not read this site very thoroughly. I haven't said Dibileo will fix things. In fact, I said he can't. But that doesn't mean I should roll over and say it's okay if we build more parking garages. (BTW, I wasn't referring to the people who don't drive. I was referring to the vast majority of citizens who don't happen to work in the downtown metro area)
And of course, I can't forget those whiny crybabies who complain because their houses get flooded every couple of years. Good idea for them to " bitch to the Olyphant Borough and Carbondale CIty/Twp Administrators, because it's THEIR fault the banks are overflowing in Lower Green Ridge. " I'm fully confident those municipalities will be quite sympathetic to non- taxpaying non- residents who don't vote for those elected officials.
Another thing; I pay nearly $5000.00 a year in freaking property tax, and I live in a modest home built over 40 years ago. (And yeah, I've fu-cking appealed it!) I'm lucky if I see a plow truck ever.
(Here comes the rant...) People like you who seem insulted because people like me ( law adiding, working class, non-politically connected) gripe, because the money I earn through sweat and toil every day, is thrown away on loans, grants, and tax exemptions for people who likley have more money in the bank than I earn a year, really, really, get on my nerves with your Goddamn sense of entitlement.
Yeah, it does bother me that I'm paying a nickel for you to park your car in a garage, it bothers me that I'm paying school tax and have no kids, and it bothers me about paying for senior centers, when I assist my parents to live outside of nursing homes.
I'm seeing quite clearly that even though the administrator(s) here doesn't ban anyone for dissenting opinions, they simply shout the opposing idea down or fillibuster until we (me) are too tired to care anymore.
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, but a lot of people are sick and tired of the status quo corporate welfare for millionaires. At least if they pretended to care, there wouldn't be such outrage.
Northeastern PA is usually a few years behind national trends, so it might take time before we boot out the self- indulgent, Narcissistic, tyrannical, unsympathetic A-holes in power now. (No offense to Chris Doherty or whomever else might fit that description) But that day is coming.
Although highly unlikley, I sincerely hope you or any of you ilk are never seated next to me in a drinking establishment, and begin spewing the same rhetoric there, as I am reading here, after I have consumed a few glasses of Bourbon. I may succumb to baser instincts and allow my Id so override my Superego, and ultimately urinate upon said offender's leg. (Like a dog, as in Balko the wonder dog. ) Bow friggin Wow.
::::I'm seeing quite clearly that even though the administrator(s) here doesn't ban anyone for dissenting opinions, they simply shout the opposing idea down or fillibuster until we (me) are too tired to care anymore.::::
Hey Balko ... I am not going to tell Girl what to say because you don't want to debate her ... if you didn't want to respond then you shouldn't have responded. I let you post what you want and never told you how to feel about something ... if we happen to disagree with you then it is shouting you down ... wow ... you will have debate here plain and simple as these are intelligent posters ... unlike the kids across the hall who have been brainwashed by Joe Pilchesky ... don't like it leave ... or put up with it and stay ... nobody is threatening you so I will not give a warning ... when that happens then you have a gripe my friend.
This is not DohertyDeceit where one is instructed on how they should feel and told what they are allowed to post ... I don't know what it is you are looking for from me ... but I'm not going to tell Girl what to write about ... nor am I going to tell you what to write about.
Just what is it you want from me Balko? You want me to ban Girl for responding with her opinion to your post ... ignore her if you don't like what she is saying ... that is my advice to you.
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:::::Although highly unlikley, I sincerely hope you or any of you ilk are never seated next to me in a drinking establishment, and begin spewing the same rhetoric there, as I am reading here, after I have consumed a few glasses of Bourbon. I may succumb to baser instincts and allow my Id so override my Superego, and ultimately urinate upon said offender's leg. (Like a dog, as in Balko the wonder dog. ) Bow friggin Wow. :::::
I sincerely hope I never run into to you either and not for the reason you think ... for I could sit and talk rationally to you ... however once you urinated on my leg ... I would no longer be capable of a rational thought.
Oh and just this ... what a pig you are to even have a thought like that and make a statement like that ... you are no dog sir as a dog would be better than you. Just my opinion based on that one statement.
Bow frigging Wow right back at ya!
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Back on topic here ... I am going to start enforcing the rules of this board ... there will be no hijacking of threads ... STAY on TOPIC!
Thank Balko for that!
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Uh Huh. The recurring theme I read in you post is "quit whining". Okay, I guess I'm just supposed to sit back and let the administration spend money recklessly and call it progress.
No...Not at all. I think what I have said a million times is if you are this unhappy here and you don’t think it will change than why are you still here? I can not imagine staying in a job or a location where I was unhappy.Please don’t tell me you can’t anyone can move if they need to. Will it be easy probably not but it is possible. Yes, I speak from experience.
You must not read this site very thoroughly. I haven't said Dibileo will fix things. In fact, I said he can't. But that doesn't mean I should roll over and say it's okay if we build more parking garages. (BTW, I wasn't referring to the people who don't drive. I was referring to the vast majority of citizens who don't happen to work in the downtown metro area)
Perhaps you don’t go downtown but I do, for Dr’s appointments and such. I remember very well trying to find parking back in the day. Please!! It was a nightmare. I appreciate being able to go to my appointments with needing to head downtown at least 30 minutes early in order to circle the area 200 times for parking. And of course, I can't forget those whiny crybabies who complain because their houses get flooded every couple of years. Good idea for them to " bitch to the Olyphant Borough and Carbondale CIty/Twp Administrators, because it's THEIR fault the banks are overflowing in Lower Green Ridge. " I'm fully confident those municipalities will be quite sympathetic to non- taxpaying non- residents who don't vote for those elected officials.
If you could be any more ridiculous I don’t see how ….Girls point was that the flooding was not as a result of anything happening here in Scranton (i.e. everything is Chris Doherty’s fault) she merely pointed out we are trying to fix a problem that was handed down to us (literally) from up the line. Now that having been said... if you elect to live next to a river or in the river’s flood plan….need I finish the sentence? I would say the same to people who live near the beach, it is beautiful I agree but ……need I finish the sentence?
Another thing; I pay nearly $5000.00 a year in freaking property tax, and I live in a modest home built over 40 years ago. (And yeah, I've fu-cking appealed it!) I'm lucky if I see a plow truck ever.
Did you investigate how much your taxes would be BEFORE you bought the property? That may have been the time to think about whether they were too high for your liking….call me crazy I thought about all those things before I bought not after. If they were extremely low and have advanced that much over a few years I would love to see your bills (name and personal data blacked out of course) showing the increases and how long it took to reach the current level.
(Here comes the rant...) People like you who seem insulted because people like me ( law adiding, working class, non-politically connected) gripe, because the money I earn through sweat and toil every day, is thrown away on loans, grants, and tax exemptions for people who likley have more money in the bank than I earn a year, really, really, get on my nerves with your Goddamn sense of entitlement.
Humm so you think I am non-law abiding, non-working class, politically connected person who enjoys handing out my less than hard earned money. Wow talk about making huge assumptions. First off my only encounter with the police was when I was the victim of a theft. I happened to work like a mule, thank you very much. In fact I work so hard and diligently I have been the recipient of my company’s employee of the month 5 times in the last two years. That acknowledgment, by the way, is decide on by co-workers not an management level person, so no I am not a brown nosier. Neither I nor my spouse has ever worked in the public sector nor do we do business with any municipality…period. I and my spouse received our jobs the old fashioned way. We interviewed and had to prove our worth to the company. My spouse has worked with the same company for over 25 years. He did spend a few years of job bouncing first until he was satisfied with the job and the company. I haven’t worked so long as I was home raising my children. Neither I nor my spouse have ever relied on anyone (including a politician) to assist us in anyway, shape, or form.
Yeah, it does bother me that I'm paying a nickel for you to park your car in a garage, it bothers me that I'm paying school tax and have no kids, and it bothers me about paying for senior centers, when I assist my parents to live outside of nursing homes.
Does it bother you to pay for fire and police despite not having any fires or police responding to your home? We don’t get to only pay for the services we want or use….if we did then the whole system would collapse. I would assume that someone paid for you to go to school. Think some of those tax payers may not have had children? I wouldn’t be so fast to dismiss elderly care if I were you. You have not yet reached the end of that roller coaster ride. You may be eating your words in the very near future. Again, yes I am speaking from experience.
I'm seeing quite clearly that even though the administrator(s) here doesn't ban anyone for dissenting opinions, they simply shout the opposing idea down or fillibuster until we (me) are too tired to care anymore.
I guess you thought we would just accept your opinions as facts? Sorry…. while you are certainly entitled to your opinion, I am allowed mine and the others are allowed theirs as well. If you want to debate great but don’t expect anyone here to blindly follow your lead. We blindly follow no one. For that activity you need to post across the hall….word of advice though…. your opinion won’t be followed blindly over there either… sorry! Ole’ baldy has that position all sewed up. J
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, but a lot of people are sick and tired of the status quo corporate welfare for millionaires. At least if they pretended to care, there wouldn't be such outrage.
Mind citing some examples of that around here? I mean... maybe there is… but this is Scranton after all and I am thinking we probably don’t have an abundance of millionaires running around. I stand ready to be corrected
Northeastern PA is usually a few years behind national trends, so it might take time before we boot out the self- indulgent, Narcissistic, tyrannical, unsympathetic A-holes in power now. (No offense to Chris Doherty or whomever else might fit that description) But that day is coming.
Does that include Missy Jan? She, Gary, and Bill Courtright all served together at the same time thus a “majority”. Can you remember any significant legislation they brought forward? I am willing to give them credit for the legislation even if it never got adopted because the mayor vetoed it and they couldn’t come up with the 4th vote to over-ride….anything? (Hey Daveyboy if you are lurking.. you got anything?? If you can’t post... just drop Lus another e-mail LOL LOL ) If you can’t, Balko, tell me why you want to give Gary another bite at the apple? Like it or not at least Doherty did something…Gary …not so much. However, I continue to stand ready to be corrected.
Although highly unlikley, I sincerely hope you or any of you ilk are never seated next to me in a drinking establishment, and begin spewing the same rhetoric there, as I am reading here, after I have consumed a few glasses of Bourbon. I may succumb to baser instincts and allow my Id so override my Superego, and ultimately urinate upon said offender's leg. (Like a dog, as in Balko the wonder dog. ) Bow friggin Wow.
Wow Id and Super-Ego. I am really impressed now. Forget everything I said previous, if you are so smart as to actually type Id and super-ego then you must know tons more than I do……..oh wait you also said you might drink to much and lose control of your bladder….and then you barked like a dog yikes…never mind.
-- Edited by IHavehadenoughofhaters on Thursday 2nd of April 2009 10:27:57 AM
Thanks IHave for jumping right in there -- my knight in shining armor !
Balko, how dare you start your rant with the term "people like you". I am not a child of privilege. I was not born into money. I have not hit the lottery. And I have not bilked monies from my dead father's estate. And I have not sued my neighbor for slipping on their sidewalk. I certainly do not feel I have a sense of entitlement. My husband I work very hard for the money we make. Yes there are times when I'd like to piss away a few bucks on something as inconsequential as dinner and a movie, but the paycheck only goes so far. So don't preach to me about having to scrimp and save and say "people like you" because MY luxury is parking in a garage. It is insulting.
I'd rather you piss on my leg in a bar that to accuse me of being a child of privilege.
But the real question is this Thursday...have you ever beaten as sleeping drunk with a tire iron????
On a more serious note...
Balko, I've been posting here for a while now, and while I don't intimately know my fellow posters, you do learn a thing or two about people when you are here long enough. None of us, as far as I can tell, are politically connected, networked, wealthy, etc. In fact, I think if you were to know our "real" names you would immediately think to yourself "Who the hell are they? I've never heard that name before". That's definitely the case for me. My upbringing? I grew up in housing project...you don't get much un-priviledged than that. Now days I don't live in a housing project, but that's more because my mother instilled the importance of education and hard work into her children growing up...not because I was "connected" and got some cushy government job.
Now I can't speak for others, but I'm here because I HATE bullies, and Joe Pilchesky is a nothing but an old, washed-up bully. No, I'm not some 5' kid with bad skin who has an axe to grind because I lost too much lunch money in Jr High...in point of fact I'll probably the opposite of that (let's just say that I'm not a small person in any dimension). Yes, I am interested in politics and yes, I like Chris Doherty as a person. However, Chris Doherty doesn't blindly get my vote...nor does anyone else.
-- Edited by Agamemnon on Thursday 2nd of April 2009 04:58:33 PM
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
None of us live a life of lavish luxery ... we work ... we take care of our families ... we pay our taxes (unlike Joe Pilchesky ... oh I mean Joanne Pilchesky) ... nobody here has it easy in life ... this life makes no promise of being easy ... it owes you nothing ... you owe yourself ... and you owe society ... but you are owed nothing in life.
Have I ever been active in politics ... yep ... but it has never been for what I could get ... it has been for the betterment of my community ... and you can believe that or you don't have to ... because I don't really care what you think of me as I am quite comfortable with who I am as a person ... I don't break laws ... I work ... I pay my bills ... and I owe you nothing Balko ... I believe that if taxes are used for good things for our community then I don't mind paying them. For if you pay nothing you get nothing!
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I want everyone to stop and think about one thing ... Joe Pilchesky is not a lawyer ... he's just a guy playing a lawyer on the internet. Please don't trust your legal needs to this man.
LusOnlyVoice writes: This is not DohertyDeceit where one is instructed on how they should feel and told what they are allowed to post ... I don't know what it is you are looking for from me ... but I'm not going to tell Girl what to write about ... nor am I going to tell you what to write about.
Sir or Madame, you have responded to my post three times so far. Excuse me for mistaking that for being shouted down.
You also wrote: ( and I owe you nothing Balko) No, you don't owe me anything, (You want me to ban Girl for responding with her opinion to your post) nor do I want you to ban anyone. (but I'm not going to tell Girl what to write about ... nor am I going to tell you what to write about.) but later, you tell everyone ("Back on topic here ... I am going to start enforcing the rules of this board ... there will be no hijacking of threads ... STAY on TOPIC! Thank Balko for that!) .. Yet, your last post to me has nothing to do with the topic of "Doherty." It's pretty much another response to me.
Sorry for being confused.
And in closing, "Oh and just this ... what a pig you are to even have a thought like that and make a statement like that ... you are no dog sir as a dog would be better than you. Just my opinion based on that one statement."
No, I am no dog, nor a pig. But I am smart enough not to talk politics or religion if I decide to enter a drinking establishment. I have never urinated on anyone's leg; that was a bit of cheeky humor obviously lost in the translation here. " I sincerely hope I never run into to you either and not for the reason you think" Don't worry, I doubt we run in the same social circles. Perhaps if we did, you would learn how I would really respond.
"you will have debate here plain and simple as these are intelligent posters ... " Maybe I just can't keep up.
"don't like it leave ... or put up with it and stay ." Well I guess you already have my answer, don't you?
Staying on topic doesn't mean you can't discuss what you want to ....just click the start a new topic tab and have a ball. You even get to name the topic. You could for instance name it ...this is my opinion and they won't stop shouting me down or I don't get mad I just piss on your leg...whatever you like. :)
I have taken the time to point by point debate you and all you do is whine about Lus's response....geez!
-- Edited by IHavehadenoughofhaters on Thursday 2nd of April 2009 11:02:18 PM
"Don't worry, I doubt we run in the same social circles. Perhaps if we did, you would learn how I would really respond."
Come on Balko, what's with the class warfare bull$hit? Disagree with what is written, but seriously, you're acting like everyone here is living in a Clarks Summit McMansion. You degrade the good points you make every time you start with the "Woe is me, down-trodden member of the working class" crap.
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.