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Who ever is running, now we hear Dibileo, tomorrow we will hear Evans, Mayor Doherty had his reorganizational meeting last night, and it was full of many old faces, however there were several new and fresh faces around, eager to help the Mayor stay in office and finish what he has started. Yes the City is better off today than it was 8 years ago, and Yes we are satisified with the direction he is taking us, and Yes we will be re-elected AGAIN.......

Hi Ho, Hi Ho its off to the Pines I go, 9 holes i'll play, 9 beers i'll drink, hi ho hi ho hi ho, hi ho hi ho hi ho Mayor Doherty will win, we'll have no sin hi ho hi ho.(You get the message).

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lol I did indeed! :)

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I haven't been here in a loooong while....but I do have to say after the stupid appointments and other things Dohert did this week......he is done. I personally would vote for Stucker over him!!

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Stucker is too busy trying to find is scooter and to get paid for trimming the Mayors hedges to run for Mayor.. Sorry to disappoint you,, now who ? Maybe Fay?, maybe it doesn't matter. Doherty will beat whoever decides to run.

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Doherty has a run for his money his ship is sinking faster than the titantic.......He only has three months to pull it off......dibileo 52 doherty 48......the reason it will be so close is too many people will be out of a job if the king loses.

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If Dibelio was a formidable candidate it could be close, but I think he is more concerned about recovering the 141,000.00 he is in debt from the last election to make a go at it again.

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Oh DiBileo is making a run at it ... I was at a political party and Gary was there and announced as a candidate for the office of Mayor ... so he making a run for it.

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I think the two real questions are:
  1. How much of an effort is he really going to put into the campaign?
  2. What does he do about Pilchesky and that entire sleazy aspect of Scranton politics?
Here are my thoughts...

#1
The fact that he comes into the race with a load of debt isn't a good thing...especially for someone who will claim that he can clean up Scranton's financial mess.  Anyway, you have to ask yourself this...why didn't the guy work harder to at least clear up the debt from the last campaign?  That doesn't exactly give you the warm and fuzzies relative to how hard me may/may not work on this campaign.

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He will do eveyrything possible to avoid having to deal directly with Pilchesky or the questions about people like Pilchesky.  Mark my words...you will not hear him even mention the name.  The guy simply avoids conflict like Pilchesky avoids humility.  At best you will hear Gary talk about his desire to run a "issue-based, positive campaign for Mayor". 






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First ...Dibileo has 22,000 in debt....go look at the records....loans were paid off two years ago......People have had it with the nonsense. Parks and Parks are your claim to fame?? It's over in May. Stucker can beat Doherty....even the Dem's agree. Personally I want to see Doherty spend 1 million and lose.

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First ...Dibileo has 22,000 in debt....go look at the records....loans were paid off two years ago......A fact, which by Dibileos own admission on Corbet's show, was not recorded until this last week. So Agam was simply stating a fact as it stood at that time.

People have had it with the nonsense. Parks and Parks are your claim to fame?? Who said that? Agam was posting about Dibileo.

It's over in May. Stucker can beat Doherty....even the Dem's agree.
The Dem's haven't agreed on anything including whether the sun would rise everday for the last 10 years lol lol

Personally I want to see Doherty spend 1 million and lose.  In this current economic climate, I would hope neither cadidate would be so foolish as to overspend regardless of who loses or wins.



 



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People have had it with the nonsense. Parks and Parks are your claim to fame?? Who said that? Agam was posting about Dibileo.


Doherty says this in every interview....

He spend 1 million last time and has it in the bank now...

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Oh I misunderstood who you were refering to......I stand by my statement about the money......neither should overspend



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First ...Dibileo has 22,000 in debt....go look at the records....loans were paid off two years ago......People have had it with the nonsense. Parks and Parks are your claim to fame?? It's over in May. Stucker can beat Doherty....even the Dem's agree. Personally I want to see Doherty spend 1 million and lose.



By the way, I was talking about DiBileo before.

Regarding the debt, whether Gary had $20, $20,000 or $200,000 in left-over campaign debt is irrelevant.  What matters is that any debt remaining from a campaign four years ago looks bad when you are going to compaign on the fiscal irresponsibility of your opponent.  DiBileo partially negates his advantage on this issue because of his campaign debt.

As for Doherty's chances, I think you (Doomer) will be shocked when the votes are counted.  I'm not going to predict that Doherty will win, but I will say this:  it will be closer than you think. 

One final comment:  Doherty is taking a pasting from the low-IQ crowd in DD over accepting campaign money from various firms, but does anyone with half their brain remaining think that Gary DiBileo would turn down legal campaign contributions from anyone????  Now do I think it's right that companies doing business with the city contribute to his campaign?  No...I don't think it's "right"...but that's why money is the grease that keeps politics rolling in this country.  Doherty is no more guiltiy of it than any other politician.

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I doubt I will be shocked when the votes are counted.......it will be close and I predict Dibileo wins 2-4%. You actually said publicy you are going to close firhouses? That will change people's minds. Doherty is very arrogant towards average people, and after 8 years people see that.

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After the restructure, No firehouses will be closed, more firemen will be assigned to each firehouse and they will be working a regular schedule no more 4 on 4 off,, able to have other jobs.

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Doomers ... you do know that Chris Doherty is not a poster here don't you? In fact I highly doubt that he even reads this site. So when you address your posts in the way you did above ... it makes it seem as though he is a poster and you are talking to him. I doubt that he even knows we exist here.

I just thought that I would share that with you ...not that I'm telling you not to post the way you do ... but they are at times very confusing as Ag thought you were directing one at him.

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Thanks for the two cents!...tough being the only person here that doesn't "like" him....

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You do a credible job Doomers. 

As for "liking" him, as I've said before, I'd consider voting for another candidate if there were a candidate who would do a better job.  Unforutnately, given Gary DiBileo's track record, I don't think Gary is that person.  Every day that I drive to Scranton High School I am reminded that the school was built too small for the population it supports, a fact that is squarely on Gary's shoulders.

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doomers wrote:

Thanks for the two cents!...tough being the only person here that doesn't "like" him....



 You're not alone.  I'm no fan of Doherty either....although I don't post here much anymore.  I'm not sure if DiBileo is the answer, but I'm of the opinion that when you're unhappy with the current regime, you vote out the incumbent.  We can always vote Gary out in 4 years if he's not the man for the job. 



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Agamemnon wrote:

You do a credible job Doomers. 

As for "liking" him, as I've said before, I'd consider voting for another candidate if there were a candidate who would do a better job.  Unforutnately, given Gary DiBileo's track record, I don't think Gary is that person.  Every day that I drive to Scranton High School I am reminded that the school was built too small for the population it supports, a fact that is squarely on Gary's shoulders.


The problem is that if Scranton High was built larger, they would've closed West.  Even though Scranton High may have been larger, it still would be overcrowded with all of West's kids there.  I think a city of 72,000+ is too large to have only one high school.  I think we should still have 3 high schools.  I wouldn't want my kids in a school that big.  The small neighborhood elementary schools is one thing I like about Scranton....its just too bad that doesn't carry over to high school in other parts of the city besides West Side. 

 



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I worked on the Doherty campaign the last two elections.I sat in Dukes office going over the game plan, worked the phone bank and put up signs for him. He could not have been nicer or more friendly. Not long after I supported a person for council that he did not. I ran into him soon after and he wouldn't even speak to me. That was enough for me, I will support the lesser of the two evils.

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If I were to be treated in that way I would feel exactly as you do Tooltime.  Did you by any chance confront him on his attitude?  Might he have been distressed for some other reason you did not realize? I always make a point of pinning someone down if  I get a bad reaction from them...most of the time it is a simple misunderstanding.

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I think we've had this discussion before Bill (about neighborhood schools).  Regardless, this is PD, so we can agree to disagree without screaming, banning or implying that bodily fluids should be added to Wheaties...

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Is there a reson why nobody can give me twelve accomplishments.....and it was erased ??(unless I am missing it, I then stand corrected)??!!

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I don't remember ever seeing it but that doesn't mean it isn't there.  I have done that though.... finished posting and then hit preview but  not the submit so lol no post despite writing one.  However feel free to repost it. We don't take down posts unless they violate our TOS or rules.  When we do take one down we say we took it down and why.  Your post if it was worded as you normally post would not fall into any problem.  We don't remove post just because someone  might not agree with it.

I don't have 12 accomplishments off the top of my head and since I don't have access to the adminstration I probably won't have a list anytime soon.   Now how about giving a 12 accomplishment list of what Gary has done that would lend confidence that he could compentely run this city.  Please stay away from what he "wants" to do and stick to what he has actually done in his life that prepared him and helps him be a good choice for the people.


ahhhhhhh found it in this thread and it was 14 things.
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=100321&p=3&topicID=26240142

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FIrst and foremost...Gary hasn't been mayor for 8 years......second again, I am only voting for Gary cause I think Chris Doherty is an arrogrant self centered....... ANYWAY
I will compare him to Chris, from what I know and read
Gary (I beleive) starterd both his Insurance business on his own.......his realistate business on his own........Doherty Sr left his family to run his business after his departure......so the successfull businessman was Chris's father.
To be quite honest, I don;t know Gary D personally so his personal accomplishments other than business I HAVE NO CLUE.
I do know that CHris runs on his family name and lives in a mansion in Greenridge....and HAS NO CLUE what the average middle class person go through monthly. MY GOD THE GAS BILL ALONE FOR HIS HOUSE MUST BE 500.00.
PLEASE tell me how he thinks like me.
Oh and Dibileo lives in Fawnwood but his house has four bedrooms, not 12 and a basketball court.

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so basically you will vote for Gary because you are less jealous of Gary's accomplishments than you are of Chris's...... ok

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No I will vote for Gary because Chris is a pric*....if you want the truth......I am not jelous of anybody I do as good as or if not better than Gary financally.
He has put this city in more debt than any mayor before him....
He treats the average person like garbage.....
The streets in my neighborhood and through out this city are a diagrace....but they have green lines on them....
He refuses to reduce the wage tax,,,,,,
He lies constantly.....
He refuses to get this city out of destressed status.....
He refuses to implement a QRS syaytem to save lives.....
He refuses to answer "real questions"....
HE is using the people of Scranton as a step stone to a higher office.....
Should I continue........They are some of my reasons not Jelousy....
Chris has no accomplishments...his family does....period.....
I will never usnderstand why DOherty supporters can't take a simple "the guy sucks as mayor" for there answer....always has to have a underline jelousy or crazy stuff.

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Chris is a guy who had a smart business man as a father.......and he then chose to sell the trinkets after daddy died.

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doomers wrote:

"the guy sucks as mayor" for there answer....always has to have a underline jelousy or crazy stuff.



 Not at all... I have no feeling at all about who you vote for... it was simply because you seemed intensly fixated on the size of their homes, cost of their heat, and the number of bedrooms they each had...I for one could careless where they live, a castle or hovel .....has no impact on me period.  I sure hope you don't make the mistake of thinking any politician is "like"  you or "thinks" like you ......none of them do.....if they did they wouldn't be in politics ..trust me on this one.  Gary is no more likely to give a $hit about you than any other politician....they are all in one way alike they all have humongous egos (at least one has a humongous head) and  a constant need for attention. 



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