yes, yes, yes, no, yes
Was on list in 3 subjects for 13 years while at Poc. Mtn. Sch. Dist.
She does not suck up to Joe Pilchesky as you continue to post.
You win. I lose. I will never bring it up again.
Happy Christmas, David

davidevans wrote:

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yes, yes, yes, no, yes
Was on list in 3 subjects for 13 years while at Poc. Mtn. Sch. Dist.
She does not suck up to Joe Pilchesky as you continue to post.
You win. I lose. I will never bring it up again.
Happy Christmas, David

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David, I do give you credit for honesty, although your answer to question #4 is questionable at best (if she wasn't enriched by getting the position, then why wait on the list for so long and why expose herself to criticism like this? I think you and your wife are far smarter than that).

Regarding Pilchesky, would you and your wife inivte me over for dinner to discuss any number of city issues? I seem to recall that Pilchesky had that honor. Pilchesky has also implied other contacts with Janet. Is he lying?

As for "winning", that was never the point here. The world isn't one big football game. As I've said, I have no ill feelings towards Janet Evans the person...what I dislike the the hypocrisy of Janet Evans the Scranton politician. Now how would I define winning? How about this for a definition? Janet sets up a private meeting with the Mayor, without the Legion of Doom in tow, to discuss how they can work together for the betterment of Scranton. No flash, no fanfare, no grandstanding, just working together for Scranton. That would be "winning".

Merry Christmas David...to you, your wife, your children and your grandchildren.

Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.

First. Whatdo Milo and flyers have to do with me? Please answer without accusing me of anything. I don't need to post here.
Second. Mr. Pilchesky came with his wife to our home to pick up info on a budget. I am the cook in our homeand had dinner ready.I offered them tobreak bread while getting the info. Janethad nothing to do with dinner. They also have spoken many times at city council meetings.
Third. Pocono Mtn is a long haul. My job took me thousands of miles at times.I didn't want her doing 100 miles a day in bad weather.
Fourth. Janet never knew until it was time to sign the papers that she was running for the schoolboard. I did all the workuntil her dad took over.I made a bet about her running and winning with someone back then.
Fifth. She did sit with the mayor and he as much as told her to F^^k off. If you all want me to continue to post. No more crap. David

David...

For the record, I'm making this my final word on this subject, so here goes (to state the obvious, my replies are in [bold blue brackets]):


First. Whatdo Milo and flyers have to do with me? Please answer without accusing me of anything. I don't need to post here.
[Lus responded, and honestly, I had forgotten the whole Milo thing myself. Personally I do not think you (David) are Milo...if anything, I've actually been impressed with how you've represented yourself. Milo on the other hand, is a little weasel.]

Second. Mr. Pilchesky came with his wife to our home to pick up info on a budget. I am the cook in our homeand had dinner ready.I offered them tobreak bread while getting the info. Janethad nothing to do with dinner. They also have spoken many times at city council meetings.
[Fair enough, but the original comment stands. Would I get a similar invitation?

The bottom line here is that Pilchesky is nothing more than a bully, and it doesn't serve your wife well to be associated with him. Look, she can choose whomever she wants to be connected with...that's her perogative...but just as other politicians are tainted by association (think Cordaro and Costanzo, for example), so too is Janet Evans. I get it...Janet likes the support from Joe and his followers...Joe likes having someone as his political "champion"...but when you associate yourself with someone of Pilchesky's ilk, the some of the stink does in fact transfer.]


Third. Pocono Mtn is a long haul. My job took me thousands of miles at times.I didn't want her doing 100 miles a day in bad weather.
[Oh come on David...net-net, your family was enriched by having her work in Scranton, if anything because any difference salary (if there even was one over the long term) was more than off-set by gas and car wear costs. Dude, you are talking to someone with corporate accounting experience here, not one of Pilchesky's brain-dead bottom feeders.]


Fourth. Janet never knew until it was time to sign the papers that she was running for the schoolboard. I did all the workuntil her dad took over.I made a bet about her running and winning with someone back then.
[Regardless of when she "signed the papers" she still knew she was running for School Board. You are trying to make it sound as if running for School Board was this spur of the moment thing. None of us here are dumb enough to believe that. The hyprcrisy still stands David...

...she knew she was running for School Board
...she knew she was on the eligibility list and
...she knew that running and being on the list created a conflict of interest, PERIOD

She should have either not run for the Board and stayed on the eligibility list OR taken herself off the list and stayed on the ballot. The fact that she did neither may not be a crime in this venue, but it is the typical Scranton "politics of self-enrichment" that Janet Evans accused other of while sitting as a member of City Council. Hypocrisy dude...hypocrisy.]

Fifth. She did sit with the mayor and he as much as told her to F^^k off. If you all want me to continue to post. No more crap. David
[I'll take your word for it, but I'll also say this: while I didn't hear of this meeting you described, I did hear of her marching up to the Mayor's office with the "Legion of Dumb" in tow, with her best grandstanding game-face on. If I were the Mayor and she came up with he likes of Fay Franus, Les Spindler and Ray Lyman in tow, I'd be tempted to tell her "F^^k off" too.

As for the "no more crap" comment David, sorry, but as long as Janet Evans continue to point fingers at others for politicial "business as usual" in Scranton, I'll continue to point out the sheer, utter HYPOCRISY of her own actions...just like I've continued to point out that Chris Doherty is at fault for not resolving the contract issues with the police and fire unions.]

Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.

I'm not entirely sure I understand that last response (subtitles anyone?)...but then again I did say previously I was done with this line of questioning.

Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.

Not sure when that meeting was but it was approx. 2 years ago ... again something we will have to find the time to look up in the council minute archives.

davidevans wrote:

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First. What do Milo and flyers have to do with me? Please answer without accusing me of anything. I don't need to post here.
This was answered above
Second. Mr. Pilchesky came with his wife to our home to pick up info on a budget. I am the cook in our homeand had dinner ready. I offered them to break bread while getting the info.
Janet had nothing to do with dinner. They also have spoken many times at city council meetings.
My reference (as you should well know) relates to the newspaper interview where Missy Jan denies knowing Joey-jerkoff. The reporter immediatly points out the fact that Joey-jerkoff had been to her home for dinner. At this point she had no choice (with the cat being out of the bag so to speak) but to admit that she did in fact know him. The reporter did not ask a hard question quite simple one really.....so my question remains why did she pretend not to know him when in fact she does.
Third. Pocono Mtn is a long haul. My job took me thousands of miles at times.I didn't want her doing 100 miles a day in bad weather.
Not real sure how the amount of miles you drive has anything to do with her drive but whatever, the question remains was she was better off (enriched) by getting a job in Scranton. This also is a simple question and the answer is yes...period.
Fourth. Janet never knew until it was time to sign the papers that she was running for the schoolboard. I did all the workuntil her dad took over. I made a bet about her running and winning with someone back then.
So according to you ....you drive her back and forth to work...."manage" her e-mail and presumably her snail mail....run the house....cooking and so forth...tell her where you want her to work so she isn't driving to far....and tell her what political office she will campaign for,.... and of course you manage the campaign I presume?? I suppose we are to assume that after all the 'handling" you do all of a sudden SHE actually starts making decisions in the elected office?? Ya right !! Ya she is the independent person I want representing me in goverment. LOL Yikes!
Fifth. She did sit with the mayor and he as much as told her to F^^k off. If you all want me to continue to post. No more crap. David
I believe my fellow posters are getting the newspaper article that relates to this so I will skip it. However as to the last comment, whether you continue to post or not is entirely up to you. We will continue regardless of your participation. As to crap?? That fact is whether you like it or not your wife is a politician nothing more, nothing less. She (or you ) make decisions based on what is best either personally or politically for her..period. So when she points her finger at others for doing the very same thing, she looks the fool because (other than the council crazies or her lapdog Fay) everyone sees her for what she is.....a politician.

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There ya go David, a few things we agree on!!

I too have a lot of respect for Judy Gatelli. She's a lady that, while you may not always agree with her, you have to admire how hard she works and how hard she fights. While on one hand I think her lawsuit against Pilchesky is rather ill advised (to say the least), I do admire her tremendously for at least standing up to the bully.

Chris Doherty? I can see your point about "the working man", but I don't know that the observation is entirely true. I also don't agree with a few of his policies (and he has a terrible eye for talent), but I think that on balance he's been good for the city, especially given the alternatives.

Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.

You've been hanging around politicians too long David, as you're talking in sound-bytes.

Precisely what am I "out of the loop" on? The lawsuit? Please, do tell us if you think it was/is a good idea. Really...I'd love to hear your opinion on it.

Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.

Here's the rub: Judy has been no less effective than virtually any other member of council over the past twenty years. Political suicide? Judy's only real fault, as I see it, is that she actually engaged some of the lunatics like Fay Franus who spoke before council. What she should have done (and I know it's easier to sit here and type advice, as opposed to actually being in chambers and taking the abuse) was to just let it go, or at most simply acknowledge the right of the speakers to have their own opinions.

Freedom to speak? As Dan Hubbard learned the hard way, that's not an absolute right in this country. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive at best, ignorant at worst...just ask Dan.

-- Edited by Agamemnon at 11:14, 2008-12-29

Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.

Noted ............1st pargraph

Vote for what you believe in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There's a stretch. Maybe 30% of the time in the majority's case.
70% of the time is show me yours and I'll show you mine. OR ELSE.

Agame ,Heres a rub.
Shut up and be at your best when things are at there worst. They can't win so stay quiet and respectful. It's hard, there is no other choice.
And
You don't know squat about Dan Hubbard or what happened. Oh ,You read or heard, I forgot. Unbelieveable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can give examples ... she ... years back came to a School Board meeting dressed as a hooker ... she carried on and carried on until she had to be removed from the meeting ... and why did she do this ... because she was opposed to the New High School ...

Another ... I wittnessed her accost a taxpayer who spoke out in favor of the new high school ... telling the woman to bring her checkbook and write a check if she wanted the school so badly ... the woman at the next meeting did bring her checkbook ... Fay was downright nasty ... bordering on crazy.

Another time at a meeting held at Neil Armstrong school ... Fay went after another speaker who was in favor of the new school telling them that if their children go to that school that she better invest in a boat to get them there when it rains ... she was quite abusive to this woman and the police officer who wa present at that meeting had to go outside and tell her to calm down or she would be removed ...

She certainly has issues ... and should not be allowed to harass people who do not agree with her ...

I was at a council meeting to speak one evening and she questioned who I was and why was I there ... wanted to know what it was I was going to speak about ... it was not her business why I was there ... she is like a vicious pit bull ... I have seen her in action many many times ...

Oh and there is the tims she along with the "Peoples Team" turned their backs on a minister who was giving a blessing at the ground breaking ceremony for the new High School ...

We could go on and on ... but I won't ... I don't know what Ags examples would be but mine are many ... and I wittnessed everyone of these happenings with my own two eyes. She can be quite frightening when she is aggitated ... Anger management might not be a bad idea for this woman ... but hey that is just my opinion.

davidevans wrote:

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What makes Fay Franis a lune? Honestly!

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Dave the word is LOON not lune.
I have had my suspicions about you but this confirms it. If I know anything (and I do) Fay and Dave are like oil and water, neither can stand the other. Yes I have heard both talk smack about the other so don't even start with the "how would you know crap". I will repeat... I have personally heard each talk smack about the other so whoever you are, stop the nonsense. Dave would never never defend Fay period.

davidevans wrote:

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Ihave.
You should have been a detective. Finally a winner in this little group of teachers. He

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I maybe but you certainly are not a detective. I have never ever worked in the public sector (nor would I). I am not now, nor have I ever been a teacher, or held any job of any kind in the education field ever. It may come as shock to you but teachers (or those who work in education) aren't the only ones in the community who think Dave is a loon and Janet is a blowhard, self serving, hypocrite. Suprise!! suprise!!

-- Edited by IHavehadenoughofhaters at 16:19, 2008-12-30