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Rest assured good citizens of Scranton, the super crime solvers Kojack and Nancy Drew have teamed up to uncover the evil Ankle Monitor Caper

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Is Barressee linked to Ankle Monitors?

Ankle Monitors (bracelets) provided by Mid Atlantic Monitoring Service, LLC are expensive as an alternative to jail. Strange to me that they're so expensive considering they can be disabled with a plain gum wrapper properly situated between the monitor and the skin, so I've been advised. I've had discussions about the money behind the company and the same two names come up all the time, George Bieber and Michael Barresse. I have a researcher hunting down some corporate information or anything else that can identify the owners, and perhaps the money behind the company.If anyone knows anything about the program, known as SCRAM, feel free to jump in here.

Wouldn't that be oddif a judge orders a defendant to use a product he's financially invested in?


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Here's the history of the SCRAM bracelets in Lackawanna County. Apparently, AMS, Alcohol Monitoring Systems from CO was used up until about 2004. Then the county changed over to MidAtlantic, which is a company that was created in 2005.

Here's a description of AMS:
About Alcohol Monitoring Systems, Inc.
Established in 1997, Alcohol Monitoring Systems, Inc. manufactures
SCRAM(R), the world's only Continuous Alcohol Monitoring system, which uses non-invasive transdermal analysis to monitor alcohol consumption. SCRAM fully automates the alcohol testing and reporting process, providing courts and community corrections agencies with the ability to continuously monitor alcohol offenders, increase offender accountability and assess compliance with sentencing requirements and treatment guidelines. Since its launch to the marketplace in 2003, SCRAM has monitored more than 53,000 offenders and is now in use in 44 states. Alcohol Monitoring Systems employs 86 people across the U.S. and is a privately held company headquartered in Littleton, Colorado.
SOURCE Alcohol Monitoring Systems, Inc.
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It appears that Midatlantic might purchase the bracelets from AMS; and according to the article linked above to the history of the SCRAM bracelets, Midatlantic also provides funding to the county.

The County turned to a private sector provider, MidAtlanticMonitoring Systems, which offered the necessary funding and handles program administration.


After they break this one wide open, Kojack can return to rescueing Covington from the Mayor who used a city lawn mower to cut his grass.




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For the love of Mike -- can you just imagine the pack of attendees at theMENSA meetings those two hold?

::: ... considering they can be disabled with a plain gum wrapper properly situated between the monitor and the skin, so I've been advised. ... :::

I wouldn't doubt it if he has this knowledge first hand
"so I've been advised" my arse ...

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It figures Joe would know how to disable a monitoring device that will soon be attatched to his old lady's ankle.

Really not suprised that the jackass posted that, though. Hopefully, a defendant who is sentenced to wear one doesn't proceed to use that information to fly under the monitoring radar and commit a crime against Joe or his property at 819 Sunset. That would be a shame. A rolling on the floor laughing my ass off at the irony of it all shame.



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"It figures Joe would know how to disable a monitoring device that will soon be attatched to his old lady's ankle."


Ankle bracelet? Why Paul, you're ever the optimist. I was actually thinking more like Alderson.


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They'd never let her leave without a souvenir of her stay. A three year, court mandated souvenir.

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Nice try Glen.. but you didn't actually think those pigs across the hall would care did you?? They have no problem with dragging anyone through the mud (except for lady clariol of course) including minor children. I assumed you had noticed that by now.

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Nancy Barrasse is an attorney. Linda Barrasse is the judge's wife and a cardiologist. I'm sure both appreciate being dragged onto this board having had no involvement whatsoever with this ankle bracelet thing.

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Funny, but I don't recall any similar warnings of impropriety from Glenn after Pilchesky stated that Senator Mellow was having an affair with a local (male) judge or after he accused Mayor Doherty causing a suicide (at Christmas, no less).

Lest Pilchesky "edit for clarity" these posts, I've saved them in their original form. Hell, maybe the good judge may even get a copy.


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Funny, but I don't recall any similar warnings of impropriety from Glenn after Pilchesky stated that Senator Mellow was having an affair with a local (male) judge or after he accused Mayor Doherty causing a suicide (at Christmas, no less).

That is simply not true.

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Here's a link to the suicide thread...

Shameful DD thread

I don't see a post from you Glenn.

I don't have the time now to dig out the Senator Mellow stuff, but if you did comment against it, I do apologize.

My point was...and is...you (Glenn) can continue to claim that DD offers some useful purpose to the area at large, but what little they do that is beneficial is far outweighed by the utterly horrible crap posted there on a regular basis. As I wrote in another thread, what they do is hide little bits of truth in the midst of lots of lies and induendo. In my book that offers no service to anyone other than Pilchesky.


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Ok, everyone else read this post...especially the last line...and tell me what you think. Personally, I'm thinking a major line has been crossed.

Oh, and Glenn...I'll look for your "enhanced" warning in this thread any moment now, as I think they just pi$$ed all over your previous advice.


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Hardcore wrote:

There have been some wild ideas perpetrated here before, but thisis really stretching it, people.



Yeah, I clearly remember some of the wild ideas of past,

* like McDowell never showed up for work and his books were cooked;
* like Cordaro hired friends who were loose and unqualified;
* like the sale of our assets was totally illegal;
* like our taxes had to be raised;
* like Judy wasfor Doherty when she ran for office;
* like Fanucci was a rubber plant; and
the list goes on. Most things uncovered here started out as a thought, a question or a suspicion. You correct me if I'm wrong, but Mike Barrasse was very much in the thick of things on the drug front as a DA, and I don't mean just making arrests, either. Let's say it like it is, Harcore.


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If the allegation is false, that post would definitely be classified as "high-risk". But since the judge is a public figure, malice must also be proven. Truth would be a defense to any libel action.

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Thanks for the legal thoughts Glenn.

What are your thoughts on the posting from a moral/ethical pespective?


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Is there first-hand knowledge of this alleged drug use or is this merely the continuation of a rumor? If the former, I have no problem with the post. If the latter, it is simply a smear and should be treated accordingly.

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The phrase "First hand knowledge from an anonymous internet poster" is a contradiction in terms.

Call me crazy, but in my book extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. You will always see the former at DD, but you will never see the latter.

This is yet another example of DD at it's worst. Congrat's Joe...you never fail to meet the very lowest of expectations.



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Is there something better than first-hand knowledge? I also disagree that the phrase you used is necessarily a contradiction in terms.

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Well call me a lunk-headed Kraut, but if someone refuses to identify themself and then posts something on the internet, how would you know the information is first hand in nature? It seems to be that the phrase "first hand" requires a certain level of intimacy in order to be an accurate descriptive.

For example, I could claim to have first hand knowledge that Joe Pilchesky uses Turtle Wax on his head. However, unless you know me as being someone around Pilchesky who could have actually seen Edith applying said Turtle Wax to said cranium, how would you know that this information is credible?

The Bottom Line is this: anyone can claim to have first hand knowledge of something, post it anonymously on the internet and then claim it to be a "fact". Unless that "fact" can be proven, then it's not worth a thimble of warm spit.




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Exactly!! First hand knowledge my ass.

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After you take your blinders off, you may be able to see that my statement referred to people who actually have first-hand knowledge, regardless of whether or not anyone can prove it to you personally. I believe people who possess such knowledge can feel comfortable posting such things, since they are most likely of the belief that what they are posting is true, and they can back it up if challenged.

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With all due respect Glenn, you are lawyering here. What's next, a debate about what the definition of "is" is?

My final word on this: it's wrong to accuse Mike Barrasse, Glenn Cashuric or anyone else of dealing in drugs while hiding behind an internet message board. If there is proof, then it should be shown...not to me, not to you...but to the proper authorities. Anything else is no better than water-cooler gossip. We can get all intellectual about this, but at the end of the day what we are really talking about is a very basic issue of right vs. wrong.



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You correct me if I'm wrong, but Mike Barrasse was very much in the thick of things on the drug front as a DA, and I don't mean just making arrests, either.
Where in here was any firsthand knowledge claimed or even implied? It's simply posting a vague rumor. If there were any shred of proof at all, do you honestly think Pilchesky would sit on it? He'd have it posted six ways to Sunday.

There is no proof. There is no fact. There is nothing more to that post than a not very cleverly worded vague insinuation. This Psssst person did nothing more with that post than throw something against a wall to see if it'd stick. Where are you getting any whiff at all of "firsthand knowledge" from that? Did you mean to say something about taking a shot in the dark instead of arguing about firsthand knowledge?

So you can sit there and condescendingly defend it all you want to, it's your perogative. Your credibility isn't being served very well by doing so, however.


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Where in here was any firsthand knowledge claimed or even implied?

Did I say there was?

It's simply posting a vague rumor.

Did I claim otherwise for that specific post?

There is no proof. There is no fact. There is nothing more to that post than a not very cleverly worded vague insinuation.

Did I make any statement to the contrary concerning that post?

Your credibility isn't being served very well by doing so, however.

Neither is yours by your irrational rant.

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Glenn Cashuric wrote:

Where in here was any firsthand knowledge claimed or even implied?

Did I say there was? You were the one who first used the phrase in this thread.

It's simply posting a vague rumor.

Did I claim otherwise for that specific post? You've actually posted very little about the content of that post.

There is no proof. There is no fact. There is nothing more to that post than a not very cleverly worded vague insinuation.

Did I make any statement to the contrary concerning that post? Then what doessupposed first hand knowledge have to do with anything here, especially when clearly there is absolutely none to back up the ridiculous accusation?

Your credibility isn't being served very well by doing so, however.

Neither is yours by your irrational rant. I appreciate your concern. My income isn't dependant upon my credibility, however. I will be just fine.

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So, we can agree that the original accusatory post was simply nothing more than a fabrication in an attempt to start a rumor, has no basis in fact at all, and that no one has any sort of first hand knowledge of any alleged drug use by anyone.

Will we be waiting much longer for you to post disapprovingly in that thread in regards to that post?



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I believed we were "discussing" what would constitute an allowable post when its subject matter would normally be construed as libelous or simply improper. Instead, I am being lectured about my credibility, and yes, you will be waiting a long time for any post from me on that topic, pro or con.

Glad there's a "pot calling kettle black" thread here. It seems to be required for both boards now.

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So then given that no proof of any kind was posted to give the accusation any shred of credence, or that no first hand knowledge was implied or could be inferred, and that it was quite clearly posted simply to publicly discredit Barasse (malice), would you then say that the post is most likely libelous in nature?

And, no, you straddled the fence earlier. I'm asking you and your legal opinion to clearly state whether you feel that the post in question could be considered libel or not. I'm not asking you to pass sentence, just to come off the fence this one time.

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I don't see where Paul's "rant" is "irrational"; to the contrary, it seems to make all the rational sense in the world to me.

Irrational is the notion that, at one time, Glenn cautioned the DD goons (all be it in a very circumspect way) about implicating Judge Barrasse during the akle monitor rumor fishing expedition...

Nancy Barrasse is an attorney. Linda Barrasse is the judge's wife and a cardiologist. I'm sure both appreciate being dragged onto this board having had no involvement whatsoever with this ankle bracelet thing.


...but now he is seeming to back away from cautioning the very same goons about implying that somehow Judge Barrasse was/is implicated in the drug trade.

So the ankle monitor thing was somehow worthy of a cautionary posting, but the drug inuendo is not? That, my friends, seems irrational to me. Given the the choice between warnings related to low-brow indendos, I'd say that warning against drug trade rumors probably takes precident over the conflict of interest charge. But hey, that's just my opinion.

Oh, and for the record, I do not know Judge Barrasse or any member of his family. My objections to this kind of rumor mongering would be just as vigorous if it were targeted against anyone else...including Glenn Cashuric.


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