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Just by creating the "All The Dirt On ... " threads, he opened the door for any one of them to get the rumor mill going. Remember the McTiernan topic? That thing burned like wildfire overnight. The guy had an affair, big friggin' deal in this day and age. Sure ...tsk tsk tsk... him, make a few raunchy jokes about the dame and get on with life.

Again, that topic raged for the better part of a month with more rumor than fact.

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Did anyone catch Danny's public appology to Daron from da podium at the konsil meeting? Payback is b!tch!

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I just heard about it Puzzler.

Here's a thought: If Danny-Boy really is doing the "I'm very sorry two step" because of his slandering of Daron NE, then I'll say right now that it's the first thing he's done in a long time that I agree with. Think about it...why put your family's finances at risk simply because you want to be just like your hero (a balding, mid-60's bully with too much time on his hands)? Pilchesky is smart enough to keep his slander directed towards public officials...you didn't see him at council berating a private business. Hell, for all the DeNaples bashing at DD, you don't see much of it coming from Joe or Edith (who will, at most, past an DeNaples newspaper article every once in a while).

It sounds like Danny may have learned a hard lesson: don't pick fights with someone or something unless you have a reasonable chance of winning.



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Dan could have handled his statements a little more carefully, but I find it hard to believe that he was against the company for personal enrichment. He was speaking up on behalf of his neighborhood against what he believed was an environmental and health threat.

Unfortunately, the Mayfield incident happened after Dan started complaining about Daron. I think a more organized line of questioning would have made Daron a little less aggressive. Of course, I feel that way about a lot of the council speakers, too.

Where the f*** was my televised council meeting today, by the way? I'm in withdrawal.

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Glenn,

I don't think Danny was out for financial enrichment on this one either...ego enrichment maybe, but certainly not financial gain. However, he was certainly putting the finances of his family at risk by picking this fight with Daron. There are effective ways to fight against a company without resorting to public slander.

Bottom Line: He picked a fight he was incapable of winning...or even really participating in for that matter. This would be like me picking a fight with Chuck Zito...not the smartest move in the world.

-- Edited by Agamemnon at 22:20, 2008-06-17

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Danny pulled a Patilla.

Just like Sammy, I'll bet that he also denys actually pulling a Patilla.

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Run for your life

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Crow eaters wrote:

Train wrecks come from the citizens running their mouths like Hubbard did. He stepped up to the plate for the people over there on Dickson Ave. when they wouldn't even do it for themselvs.


Listen dickhead, Dan Hubbard brought legitimate passion to that podium. He had no political agenda. He stood up for what was right and he said what had to be said. I'd vote for that man in a heartbeat if he runs for council. And there are thousands of voters out there looking for a Dan Hubbard to vote for, believe me.

And yet, he still only managed 67 when running for Controller. Where were the rest of these "thousands of voters"?

The rest of that thread is entertaining as well. The spin is unbelievable. yawn

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More spin...(red comments by me)...


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I feel the same way. Hubbard is a people's voice. [That may be correct, as I am sure that Dan speaks for his Mom and maybe his wife, which technically qualifies as being the plural of 'person'] He's always presented himself intelligently and spoke very effectively.[On what planet? Just about every appearance I saw of Danny, he presented himself as a whiney bitter man.] I could see how they'd want to shut him down, [They? Danny shut himself down...dumb-ass was arrogant enough to think he could slander a company and they would simply brush it off.] but I don't think this incident means they have. I think they may have annointed him with the motiviation to surface next year as a very viable council candidate. ["Viable council candidate"? Oh God in Heaven, please do let Danny run for council. I can see the candidate profile in the paper now: Daniel Hubbard, Occupation: House-husband and failed Call Center Representative. Who knows...Danny may even break through the 100 vote barrier in a council run.]


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One poster claims that Hubbard is a voice of the people. Another poster claims that the people for whom he supposedly acted as a voice did not support him in that capacity. So which is it? Are we blaming the people or the person? Is he a representative, or simply a rogue loudmouth? I bet I know...

Listen, Joe. If you're gonna sugarcoat another loss (or failure, since he gave up before really even going to trial) at least get your stories straight.

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Check for your self.Dan Hubbardhas no record.
http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/WebDocketSheets/OtherCriteria.aspx



Nice try. Check this link. http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/WebDocketSheets/MDJOtherCriteria.aspx

He's been before magistrates several times, and you don't get to do that unless you've been handed a citation by a cop. Heed Assassin's advice and stop making blanket statements unless you are completely sure.

Besides, has his council arrest already been forgotten by you all over there? I thought that was a badge of honor, his trial by fire, his credential as an "activist."

-- Edited by Paul at 17:23, 2008-06-19

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Is this the same guy who calls the majority of people in Scranton Sheep and Sheeple? He has proven that he is a lying weasel.

Editor: The purpose of this letter is to rescind the multiple accusations and negative remarks I have made at Scranton City Council meetings regarding Daron Northeast. The statements I made were misleading, malicious and without merit.

Among the false allegations I made toward Daron Northeast were:

I stated that Daron was not in compliance and that it exploited loopholes to get the company up and running. Daron Northeast followed the proper guidelines to start its manufacturing operations in the city of Scranton and did nothing to exploit the city or the zoning officials. Daron submitted all the proper applications and received all the appropriate approvals to begin its operations in 2003.

I also stated that Daron Northeast violated local zoning ordinances 30-some times. I had and still have no basis for that accusation. To my knowledge, there is not one existing zoning ordinance being violated by Daron Northeast at this time.

I have accused the city administration of protecting Daron Northeast and lining its pockets as a result of that. I have no basis for that accusation whatsoever. Daron Northeast has followed all the proper channels and guidelines in establishing its business within the city limits.

My statements accusing Daron Northeast of causing long-term lung damage as a result of Darons operations and operating illegally polluting the environment and killing residents were made recklessly and without any merit. I have no reason to believe that these statements have any truth whatsoever.

For these reasons, I am hereby retracting the above statements that I have made about Daron Northeast.

DANIEL HUBBARD

SCRANTON

Editors note: Mr. Hubbard confirmed the submission of his letter is related to the settlement of a civil lawsuit brought against him by Daron Northeast.



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There's an old saying, "You may have won the battle, but you've lost the war". There have been few, if any, adaptations to that old saying, but one comes to mind in this circumstance, which is, "You may have won the battle, but you've started a war."

This is what it is. It's the political assassination of Dan Hubbard who was threatened by Judge Minora and further threatened with years of veryexpensive litigation on a case that Daron couldn't possibly win.But, it would have forced Hubbard to sell the family farm to fight it. An important argument was set for this week over the pleadings that had been filed thus far.It was either 'sell the farm' or settle it, if settlement was offered. His family lives on the farm. Settlement was offered, and settling it also means that Daron had no case or else it would have forced the case to proceed. This was settled in the preliminary objection stages, practically unheard ofin any lawsuit.Daron wanted it settled and Hubbard certainly wasn't going to sell the family farm to defend against it if he could avoid it.

The lawsuit was as frivolous as the day is long. But, frivolous lawsuits still take a lot of money to fight. Hubbard did the right thing. It may have been a painful pill for him to swallow, but life is full of painful pills to swallow. We swallow them when we must and move on. Hubbard got slapped around as a young political enthusiast. They've done nothing more or less than converted him into a moreeducated enthusiast. It's all preparation for what the future holds and there's nothing better than a skinned knee to remindyou ofwhere, and how,you fell, or when and where you were pushed to the ground. It builds character, an eye opener.There's a compliment in there somewhere, I hope Hubbard has felt it by this time.
This is absolute and complete B U L L S H I T and everyone knows it. Like Sam before him, Danny-boy caved when the pressure got to be a little too heavy.

All it does is show what cowards they truly are. They were acting in their own self-interest, and it blew up in their faces in gloriously embarassing fashion. If he was doing this for "the greater good" he would have had the support of his family. If he didn't have at least the support of his family, then maybe he shouldn't have gotten involved in the first place.

There's a big difference between being an effective community activist andnothing more than a loudmouth council speaker, or an internet tough guy. I think Dan has forever defined himself by giving up, and has snuffed any political aspiratons he might have harbored. Clearly, he's not in it "no matter the cost" like he would have had some believe. I'd wager that this term as LGNA president will be his last. He's embarassed more than himself with that pathetic letter.

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Danny should have switched to complaining about skunks in Lower Green Ridge with his 5 minutes of whining from da podium. The skunks can't sue him, they can only spray him again!

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S HIT ... he would have had the support of the LGNA ... afterall it was for them he was fighting this fight for ... wasn't it ... Mrs. Fadatti couldn't hold a fundraiser for him ... she was the one that had the lung problems ... wasn't she? Why isn't she suing Darron Northeast? There is the real question ... if they caused all of her health problems ... as is her claim ... whey didn't some lawyer jump on it and take Darron to court ... because obviously there was no case against them.

We live in a sue happy society these days ... how many lawyers advertise on television ... they would have taken this on if there was a case ... so my guess is that there wasn't ...

Dan says what Dan wants to say ... and never thinks it's important to back it up with proof ... and in most instances he is not made to back it up ... I do believe that he never came on this site to post because he knows we ask for proof ... the posters here will not take his word for gospel ... and he would call us sheep ... well I would venture a guess that the farm he lives on is a Sheep Ranch ... and he is the one who needs sheep ... he sure is obsessed with them ... it is just my opinion but he has ruined the CityData Forum with hi nonsense and fighting with posters that will not conform to his way of thinking ... he is an a$$ ... and he got caught in his web of lies ... and Pilchesky it trying to spin him a new web ... the only deceit that goes on in my opinion is the deceit spun by these nuts!

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The main problem is a lack of focus. When your complaints begin to seem like darts lobbed randomly at a board of grievances, you tend to get sidetracked and dragged into the black hole of saying a bit too much about the wrong thing.

All they had to do was keep asking questions about the finances. It's always about the money. But, no...it was either skunks, the television station, the block grants, Poochie, park money, waterslides, etc. They never actually ask questions either, though Marie Schumacher makes an honest attempt. With the rest, it's usually a prepared statement that turns into a garbled diatribe.

In a way, they are the mayor's stealth weapon.

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"...In a way, they are the mayor's stealth weapon."


I completely agree Glen.

You always play up to...or down to...the level of the competition. In the case of Scranton, when the competition is out screaming about Channel 61, Poochie (Oh my God, a small business failed! Stop the press Les!), or any of a number of other incredibly stupid issues, Mayor Doherty looks calm, rational and reasonable by comparison. Pilchesky makes it a thousand times worse by allowing some of the worst crap imaginable on his site...none of which HAS EVER challenged Doherty in a credible fashion. Pilchesky apparently hasn't discovered that the incredibly insane crap on DD contaminates everything else.

Pilchesky and the LoD has simply made it easy for Mayor Doherty. Look at it his way: If you are entered into a race, and you discover that your sole competition is a 10 year old with Downs Syndrome, honestly...how fast will you have to run in order to win?


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Add to it the fact that when you get up to a podium at a public meeting, you state your business in a respectful manner, you ask your questions and then you sit down.

You show some respect and you just might get a little in return. Judy may not be our shining beacon of hope up there behind that microphone, but every one of those speakers who harp on her and taunt her from the podium week after week, have had a HUUUGE chip on their shoulders from day one, and made no bones about how they intended to use it.

It cracks me up that people like Nelson (who makes a good point on occasion) muddies up his 5 minutes with using phrases like the Scranton Slimes and snide little nicknames directed at city administrators and council members.
Don't they realize that they could actually make a difference if they took the time to jot down a few rational statements to follow, instead of rifling through a rubber band full of newspaper clippings and stopped acting so sophomoric and ridiculous.

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That's the rub Thursday...I think that in their minds, it's MORE IMPORTANT to slander the Scranton Times or the Mayor than it is to actually make a valid point or two. The priorities they have are very clear.

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