Sure sounds like there's plenty of blame for plenty of people, I agree. But it's absolutely COMICAL the way no one dares mention any whiff of Evans' negligence in this whole thing. Not one person. If she was truly "for the people", in her position of Finance chair she should have been on this like white on rice making sure that the City's--not so much the SSD or county's (although that would have been exposed along the way I'll bet)--money was put where it belonged.

Maybe they did, but the post was "edited" or outright deleted to keep any mud off her heels. Who knows.

Barring direct evidence to the contrary, it is ridiculous to involve the mayor at this point. That said, it is inexcusable that twelve million bucks has just been sitting around for three years. If Ken McDowell doesn't start coming up with plausible explanations and a paper trail of the principal and interest, I believe a criminal investigation would be warranted.

It should not take an audit to determine the source of this money and its whereabouts. One person knew. One person should be able to explain.

GC

I think that the point here is really not to lay blame on anyone other than the former tax collector at this point ... an Audit needs to be done ... and then possibly all of the answers will come along with who is to blame. It's a shame that this money has been sitting around when it could have been used for good. Lets not blame the Mayor or Janet Evans or Roseanne Novembrino at this point. I do however believe that Ken McDowell has a ton of explaining to do here.

Let's get the Audit done.

And Balko ... I don't think that everyone here supports the Mayor ... maybe what we really see here is a respect for the office of the Mayor which seems to be seriously lacking in this town. I do not agree 100% with everything that the Mayor does ... I just do not think that he is the pure evil that he is portrayed to be across the hall.

But at least here in the "Bizzaro world" as you call it ... you can have your own opinion ... if you hate the Mayor it's ok ... if you love the Mayor it's ok ... Hell we have even endured people touting Pilchesky as the next coming of Christ ... and that was ok ... at least here everyone is entitled to have an opinion.

Yes we are in a way the bizzaro world of DD. Across the hall you will be allowed to spew whatever Joey deems correct about any subject. Over here you can speak as you chose to speak. We only ask that you show a little respect and stay off the family members of the public officials. Other than that...have at it. :))

One of the main reasons I started posting on this board was that the people here dont back or push 1 candidate. A lot of people here are critical of Doherty, but he is not the reason this board was created. The site is called PilcheskyDeceit not DohertyHonesty. The board was created to offer a chance for people to speak their mind on what goes on across the hall. Because Pilchesky only offers selective Freedom of Speech.

I really dont know whythe posterthinks everybody on this board believes Doherty can do no wrong. I could be wrong but in my mind most people dont even discuss their political beliefs on this board, its not what it was intended for.

Perhaps the words "nothing" and "everything" are too extreme.More subjectivedescriptors should have been used.

I'm not inclined to research back to every post I've read were I see partiality towards the mayor, but I have read many.

My position is somewhere in the middle. While I don't hate Doherty, or even dislike him,he is a second term mayor, and that puts him in a positionto exercise influence.(As it would for any politican) He can dole out contracts to those hefeels help his position the best.

He has certainly raised salaries to his cabinent people, some of whom havelimited "qualifications". (Hailstone, Moran, Seitzinger) The size of government has increased, and he has not fulfilled promises of lowering the wage tax (firstterm promise) or removing the distressed status/stigma.

The wedge between labor and administration has never been deeper, nor has our debt. He has sold off assets yet was critically opposed to Connors when he did the same thing.

On the positive side, he has built a new police station, a new DPW headquarters, (also first term promises)and re-invigorated Nay Aug park. He hasgiven new breath and support to the arts. While I see no "renaissance" in the downtown, I do see some new business and a spiritand hope to revitalize an aging coal town.

In summary, I think Doherty had high ideals and and lofty ambitions for this city when he started. Unfortunately,the same stubborness that drove him to excel has given him a"with me or againstme attitude" which serves no one well.

I apologize for hijacking this topic from the 12 million dollar tax question. I also appreciate the welcome, and being allowed to express my opinion.

No need for anyone to worry...our favorite foaming @ the mouth utility company worker has it all figured out...my comments in [Dark Red]...

aquamg
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Date: Mar 16 1:33 PM, 2008
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RE: KENNY McDOWELL CAUGHT HIDING 11 MILLION FOR DOHERTY? Read what Atty. McGovern reported

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Who wants to bet that Doherty, [Has nothing to do with running the Tax Office] McDowell, [Well, that's one name that's right.] McGoff, [Has nothing to do with running the Tax Office] Fanucci, [Has nothing to do with running the Tax Office.]Gatelli, [Has nothing to do with running the Tax Office] Vitali, [Has been on the job for like two weeks...how could she implicated?] McGovern, Jarbala,[Has nothing to do with running the Tax Office] Washo, O'Brien and any other person in politics [Any other? Such as Janet Evans? Funny, but I don't think that name will come out of Foam'n Fay's mouth.] will not have excuses and lies about this to cover up this fraud --and in a few short weeks this will all be swept under that very covered rug-- and there will be nothing, absolutely NOTHING,we, as taxpayers, can do-- talk we can--big deal-- what can we actually do to get the truth out and make those who were corrupt pay for their crimes?--[Fay...Fay...Fay...you are going to blow an artery here...; why don't you have Pilchesky sue someone? That seems to be the standard answer. Oh, wait...he may be busy with the Edith defense...errrr, speaking of FRAUD and misappropriating funds...]Without cold hard facts and proof we have not a leg to stand on--Anyone? When will our rights be served? [Sure Fay, a $12 million dollar error will be swept under the rug. My God lady, the bitterness had truly gotten to your head. McDowell is not a well like man in many corners...I highly doubt that this will be allowed to be "swept under the rug".]


How in the name of God could she possibly think that Gatelli and Fanucci have anything to do with this? By my account, both are barely able to perform their duties as part-time council members, let alone be a part of a complex scheme to cover-up a multi-million dollar error. Hell, neither was even the Finance Chairman for Council...that would have been, as Paul points out, Ms Evans.

Bottom line: If ever someone needs to see a clean picture of why DD has no credibility when it comes to serious issues, it's in Fay's post. Nothing more than a bitter tirade made by a bitter woman with too much time on her hands.


-- Edited by Agamemnon at 18:01, 2008-03-16

Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.

The person who found this money and waited until the new tax collector came in and then told her should go to jail that person knew of this for awhile and caused the taxpayeers a tax increace they might not needed to pay.

McDowell's explanation, as I understand it, is something along the lines of "oh, I knew it was there, and we were just getting around to disbursing it"...funny, but no one else seemed to know that in any of the local municipalities AND this comes to light right after a new Director takes office. I'm sorry, but Synchronicity may work as a cool album by the Police, but not as a manner of financial management/disclosure.

Anyway, I think the jury is still out over McDowell being...

a) Grossly incompetent
OR
b) Criminally negligent

Either way he looses. The truly sad part in all of this? McDowell may now be the only one who could make (former) Controller Mellow actually look good by comparison.

Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.

That's ok Glenn, you are just following in the grand tradition of competents who lost to incompetents...you know, like virtually anyone who ran (and lost to) George W. Bush.

Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.

Hold up on that tattoo, Glenn. At least they hadn't graced you across the hall with your own "Any Information on..." topic.

You should consider youself lucky because you are probably the only one who's run for office that they didn't jump on with both feet.

::: For the record, the above statements use up my facetious allotment for the next month. :::

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