Were you there? What happened? Sounds like he lost. Given who acted as his counselor, I can't say I'm suprised...
It'll be fun to see how your version of events differs from the Pilchesky spin on things, which will probably even be different than the Patilla take. If they even post about it.
Signage...please, favor us with a full report. As of a moment ago, there was no posting on the "trial" on DD.
I'm just waiting for that OhNo moment...you know, when then they show the videotape and Sammy sees the look on the face of the judge (is there even a jury for this?) and says "Oh no, my hecky-shecky a$$ is screwed".
Oh, and for someone who writes with such distain for local lawyers, the serial-plaintiff sure does like to pretend to be one.
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Nope Paul, nahhhh, no way...you see, I was assured by the intelligent posters at DD that Sam "would own this town" after his case went to trial. In fact, I have half a mind to look up the postings.
Cop a plea? That would be actually smart in this case...yet another reason why Sammy wouldn't do it.
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I'm genuinely curious to see when and how Joe even addresses it. God knows they're all over the Times for not reporting Pilchesky "victories" (granted, the pickings are extremely slim). Let's see how they act with the news that Patilla simply bent over and took it from the man.
RE: Sam Pitilla charged with obstruction of a public meeting The city might as well change the name of the street he lives onto Sam Pitilla Ave. Because he's going to own it. This is going to be the biggest blunder they ever made, the most expensive and the most interesting to watch. They've finally opened the door to their own politicaL injury.
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The case against Sam Patilla - cops Affidavit Sam, I was at the meeting and I would be willing to testify as to what I saw. See you at the meeting on thursday and we will talk. There is someone else you should talk to also.
[Signage...you didn't happen to see a Wizzy at the trial, did you?]
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RE: The case against Sam Patilla - cops Affidavit The Affidavit of probable cause seems to be pretty thin to me. How do they intend to show an intent to obstruct a scheduled council meeting and he signed up as a speaker, especially considering the fact that the **** didn't hit the fan until Gatelli interrupted?
RE: Sam Pitilla charged with obstruction of a public meeting These posts are incredible--each and every one-the one that hits me is the last- "plain and simple Gatelli needs to step down"-- why? Because of every post above that one--we are being silenced by threat of arrest and harassment--Little do they know--they have never dealt with the likes of any of us before--we do not run--we stand by our rights and will defend them to our death- "WE" are on the right side of the law--they are NOT-- and the Constitution is our best friend right now--we can not go wrong--we shall only pervail--what a wonderful feeling knowing that in time we will get rid of every crooked politician in this area- and guess what --we are surely on our way in doing just that-- I look forward to every minute of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Fay, is Crow a white meat? Just wondering, as you probably know more about it than most.]
RE: Sam Pitilla charged with obstruction of a public meeting What is out of order at a meeting? Talking loud? maybe we better use sign language at the council meetings. And for GODS sake stand still. Don't move. Why did Judy edge Sam on? And she won't even look at Fay as she speaks. A Man goes out to fight for his country and for OUR right's. To bad he can't use what he went out and fought for. I guess in Scranton,the chosen few not only get what they want, but are the only one's that also get FREEDom OF SPEECH . Notice FREE , that is the only thing Doherty's followers want.HEY, More T shirts, FREEDOMOF SPEECHFOR EVERYONE IN SCRANTON ~ ~ ~ OR WE BELIEVE SAM !!
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[Yeah Sammy, with friends like this, who needs enemies?]
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Sam Pitilla free of all charges Sam Pitilla, today was freed of all charges against him-- wonderful wonderful news-- I want to personally wish Sam my congratulations for a well deserved victory-- BRAVO!! we are all thrilled for you!!
LoDer Bill on WILK now...confirms that Patilla is under the ARD program...but claims that he "won". Funny, but if he "won", then why did he go into ARD? Cobett is calling Bill out on the fact that going into ARD isn't the same as being innocent.
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Well I'm not quite sure who WIZZY is so I can't tell if he/she was there.
I guess my idea of FREE ON ALL CHARGES is different to the DD posters, because a PLEA doesn't mean FREEE ON ALL CHARGES. Seems to me he knew his ass was in a bind and took the easy way out.
Guess we don't have to worry about them renaming his street anytime soon. LOL LOL ROTFL
Maybe Joe P will explain it all, alot happened.. I am sure we can expect a post from him soon with his side of the story.
I've never heard of a true activist, one who felt he was in the right no matter what, plea bargain liek that.
Sammy just grabbed his ankles, plain and simple. He might as well have just said "Yes, massuh, whatever you say, massuh" the way he set his cause back. He totally rolled over on this one.
Today Sam plead guilty to disrupting a meeting and other charges. The judge wanted him to get a lawyer which he would not anyway......pleading guilty and getting the ARD program DOES NOT mean you "were freed of all charges"......below Foamin, teethless Fay writes garbage....read the paper tomorrow Foamer.
Sam Pitilla free of all charges Sam Pitilla, today was freed of all charges against him-- wonderful wonderful news-- I want to personally wish Sam my congratulations for a well deserved victory-- BRAVO!! we are all thrilled for you!!
What gives?? I thought Sammy proclaimed that God was his co-counsel and he was riding this train all the way to the Supreme Court if he had to. Didn't he post that he was going to 'E Pluribus Funk' the council, mayor, governor, et al into court to prove his was right?
Some where tonight Bobby Sealeis sleeping a little more comfortably.
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RE: Sam Pitilla free of all charges My information is that Judge Gerulo was impressed with Sam's conduct in the courtroom and agreed to hold off on the prosecution of the charges for a period of 3 months if Sam can conduct himself at council meetings the way he conducted himself in court, at which time, the charges would be dropped and/or expunged. This is a nice victory for Sam, who is the clear victim in this matter all the way. The way for the city to avoid a prosecutorial misconduct case is to do exactly what happened today. Sam backed them down. And, without a lawyer. That's been going around. Dan Hubbard recently filed a beauty of a brief in support of his preliminary objectoins in his litigation with Daron...............without a lawyer.
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The New England Patriots won Super Bowl XLII yesterday, after being outscored by the New York Giants 17-14.
In local news, Sam Patilla won his court case after bending over for the judge, spreading his ass cheeks, grabbing his ankles, and taking justice hard and dry up the ass.
And finally, Generalissimo Fransisco Franco clings to life.
A fine of 1000 dollars which is for ARD. Also probation for three months if he calls that a victory I hate to see what he calls a win. the only way he would of had one his case was very simple a jury would have said Not Guilty. AS we said all along what an IDIOT.
Well I guess if you look at it in this way he is free of all "charges" ... he plead out so one usually pleads to a lesser charge ... so technically ... he is free of all charges. He more than likely was not charged with the offense that he plead out to ... think about it. However that does not mean that he won.
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But if you are a goon from across the hall ... you take it as a win ... sorry Shari ... Lump Lump Lump!
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Fay and Joe being called into question. Fay I can see. She has the sense of a box of rocks. Joe, though...wow. They're throwing those rocks at the almighty golden calf.
Hardcore Posts: 302 Date: Feb 5 6:26 AM, 2008 Views: 174 Quote | Reply RE: Sam Pitilla free of all charges --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe Pilchesky wrote:..."My information is that Judge Gerulo was impressed with Sam's conduct in the courtroom and agreed to hold off on the prosecution of the charges for a period of 3 months if Sam can conduct himself at council meetings the way he conducted himself in court, at which time, the charges would be dropped and/or expunged. .."
According to what I've read, that isn't exactly true. Patilla accepted a plea agreement. He will serve three months on "unsupervised probation". He also has to complete the Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition or "ARD" program.
While this is a minor sentence, it isn't without conditions. Most probation comes with restrictions such as not being allowed to consume alcohol, not fraternizing with known criminals, and most importantly, not getting arrested or cited again for the period of probation. It shouldn't be too difficult to comply with conditions in this case.
Finally, ARD isn't without cost. I believe it's in the neighborhood of $800.00, which will be added to the cost of prosecution. Even if there was no fine imposed (as in this case) a person accepting a plea is still responsible to pay court costs.
For Patilla, it is a victory of sorts, but it will ultimately still cost him money.
aaaotr Posts: 197 Date: Feb 5 8:24 AM, 2008 Views: 124 Quote | Reply Sam Pitilla free of all charges --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What was the plea deal??? They don't name the charges in the paper.
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Sue Posts: 81 Date: Feb 5 8:50 AM, 2008 Views: 88 Quote | Reply RE: Sam Pitilla free of all charges --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, being freed and making a plea deal are kind of different. It did seem odd that the court would just dismiss the charges. I'm hoping that this is what Sam wanted.
Krispy Kreme Posts: 69 Date: Feb 5 9:05 AM, 2008 Views: 63 Quote | Reply Sam Pitilla free of all charges --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
i agree .... after reading the paper today, yesterday's posting was alittle misleading as to what really happened to mr. patilla.
buzzjm Posts: 8 Date: Feb 5 9:24 AM, 2008 Views: 39 Quote | Reply RE: Sam Pitilla free of all charges --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sam Pitilla, today was freed of all charges against him-- wonderful wonderful news-- I want to personally wish Sam my congratulations for a well deserved victory-- BRAVO!! we are all thrilled for you!!
According to today's paper Mr. Pitilla did plea to a criminal charge which requires probation!!! So basically he did say to the courts that he is guilty of the charges!!
I don't believe an innocent man will ever take a plea agreement!
Fay, err aquamg posted the Times article to prove her stupidity, err point. Then aaaotr adds his two cents worth. Earth to aaaotr - SAmmy acted as his own lawyer - so what does that tell ya!!
What lawyer has ever told a clearly innocent client to plea to a lesser charge? Especially in a disorderly conduct case. That would be the worst lawyering in the history of lawyering, Pilchesky era included.
If Sam were really innocent, as he was claiming from the beginning, there's no way in hell that he would have pled out. He flinched big time, and embarassed himself and Joe in the process. Good for them both. At least we won't have to hear from Rasta boy any time soon. Dumbass might have to chill for a while, huh?
Ozzie's post has to be near the top of the retarted post pile, on a message board full of retarded posts. Aaaotr, I believe you are extremely clueless.
"The city might as well change the name of the street he lives onto Sam Pitilla Ave." - Bo Peep
Question...When some flaming drunk cops an ARD to get out of jail time after driving while ripped, does the city have to name a street after them as well?
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THE BALLAD OF SAM PATILLA (sung to the tune of the Beverly Hillbillies theme song)
Come and listen to a story 'bout a paperboy named Sam A poor Newark man found himself in a jam Then one day in Judge Vito made him see That the best thing to do was to cop a plea
ARD that is, pay a fine, behave Well the next thing you know ol' Sam is being good But Pilchesky thought a win was understood Said you'll own this town just you wait and see But not for Sam as he had to cop that plea
ARD that is No jail time, just behave
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