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Shari,

I've read your responses in the "Joe's Racist Rant" thread and I've really tried hard to understand your point of view. I really have. In fact, I even responded once but then went back five minutes later and deleted that post, because I wanted to think it over some more. So what do I think?

First, it really doesn't matter what I think about Pilchesky's proclivity towards racist, homophobic and violent rants. Nor does it matter really want you think either in the sense that neither one of us can really change what's in that man's cold, dark heart anyway. However, what we say in response to racism doesn't so much stand as a statement about the accused as it does make statement about who we are as individuals. By that standard, something something along the lines of "Pilchesky was wrong to say that but Chris Doherty and The Scranton Time..." is just dodging the issue.


Second, what truly is important? Politicians come and go. Want an truly honest politician? Die and meet one in heaven, because you won't find one here...Chris Doherty and Janet Evans most definitely included. However, you write as if Doherty is somehow some political abomination from hell. He isn't. He's a man. What do the names Stephen Reed and Sharpe James have in common? "I'll have 'Mayors more corrupt than Chris Doherty', for $500 Alex". Note that those are just two that I've though of off the top of my head. Yes, I know, you don't live in Harrisburg or Newark, but that's not the point. The point is that Chris Doherty is neither Angel nor Satan. He's a man. Even the DD crew acknowledges this is a sense, as I think that's why they created the "evil ICN" as a way to somehow endow him with supernatural powers. Funny, but if he has all of these powers, don't you think he could manage to get himself a decent salary as mayor? For God's sake, I make more than he does.

Third, I have a question for you: Have you ever lived anywhere else other than NEPA? I have...South Central PA and NJ to be specific. I've also traveled extensively inside the US. I know that the grass isn't necessarily greener. I find it almost funny that so many of the people who are the most critical of Scranton probably have never lived anywhere else.

Fourth, what is Chris Doherty really guilty of? Money, that's what it comes down to. Now I abosolutely agree that he has not treated the police and firefighter unions with the respect they deserve. But let's be intellectually honest for a minute, have both unions always treated taxpayers fairly? Recall the police chief as a member of the FOP fiasco ("I violate the contract as management then get part of the reward as an FOP member")? Recall the drug squad that worked bankers hours? Should I continue? Now, does this mean the unions are corrupt? No, they are not. Rather, the unions are filled with humans, flawed humans just like Chris Doherty. With that in mind, the demonizing has to end. Both sides have to sit down like reasonable adults and end this contractual madness.

Fifth, you referenced that the The Scranton Times is one of the worst newspapers that you read. Well if you are looking for a truly unbiased paper, I think you will be looking for a very long time. Every institution...be it a newspaper (like the Union News, for example), a corporation or a citizen's group (like the Scranton Taxpayers group) has a bias...that's just par for the course. The real question here is whether or not that bias is too much to bear. If the Times falls into that category for you, I have a suggestion: stop reading it, both in paper and on-line and just read the Union News (biased against management) or the Wilkes-Barre Times Leader (biased against Democrates). Personally I agree that the paper has some biases, but I also think they do a terrific job in some other respects. On balance, it's worth the $0.50 I plop down at Stange's every morning.

Lastly, we all make a choice each and every day about how we view our world. You can see problems or you can see opportunities. You can choose to lend a hand to someone or you can choose to push someone down. In the end it's not about "what they are doing" that's important, it's "what I am doing" that counts.

Have a nice day.


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somebody create a name and post this baby across the hall

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Aga,
Don't kill yourself trying to understand me. It's very simple. I do not engage in posts that I feel I have no place in or that I'm uncomfortable participating in. I cannot control what people say or write. That's their choice. I participate in posts here and over there where I believe I can contribute something constructive and worth reading based on my knowledge of it. I can surely give my opinion on a subject, but I will not debate and issue if I know nothing about it.
Joe seemed to be either backng up from his post or he had a plan to purposely inflame people for another reason. I don't know his reasons for his post and I really don't care. That's between him and Mr. Brown and apparently Mrs. Gatelli.
What sets me off sometimes is the balance of ridicule. Council members or people connected to the mayor can call citizens "political terrorists" and no one says a word. The paper can call council speakers or anyone who opposes the mayor "malcontents" and nothing is said. The paper continuously brings a one sided slant on government issues. Where's the balance? There is none.

I'll say something very unpopular here again. Like, tolerate, or dispise Joe Pilchesky, he provided a web site where people can share information, news or opinions where otherwise we lived in a vacuum. You must admit, once you shovel through some of the the garbage "over there", you know there are some very insightful, knowledgable and interesting posters. I read those particular posts and I learn from them. When a particular post gets nasty or non productive I change the channel. I can take some posters in stride. One day a particular poster can enrage me with their nonsense and the next day they may make a very intellegent contribution to a subject. Like you said, no one is perfect. I cache from posts what I feel is worthy to form an opinion of a subject and I reject what I feel is nasty, personal or simple nonsense.

On the Chris Doherty subject, I'll say simply, he's a nasty person. Incompetence or politicizing aside, there is no place or reason in our government for him to be like he is. It's intolerable to me. I've been told from people inside city government, simple employees, politicians and management alike, what he's done and said to people. I believe them because their stories are consistant. This man displays sociopathic behavior towards his subordinates. He could be the best father, son, husband or brother to his family, and I've heard he is, but his attitudes toward others is inexcuseable. From a taxpayer's viewpoint, he's destroying this city financially. For those reasons, I cannot tolerate him. There's not a heck of a lot I can do about it but maybe expressing my opinions, sharing what I know or being active in elections will help. I do my part.

The paper, in my opinion, is an abomination. Certain politicians get a free pass and others are held in contempt. That's not the paper's job and you must admit, I'm right in that respect. Is our paper unlike others? Not always. There bias reporting is obvious. Some of the politicians I do not like have been subjects of their wrath, but I still didn't appreciate it. The paper's job is to report news, not manipulate it.

It's a pleasure talking to you Aga, even if we disagree sometimes.



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If you type the words "political terrorist" and "malcontent" on this website, the dd website or any other website, the powers that be don't automatically delete the word and replace it with asterisks. Sparklit must feel the term is derrogatory and insulting because it does just that - right along with the F word, the C word and many many other words some of us may find offensive or derogatory. Not only did he type the word (more than once), but he made sure Sparklit would not edit it by placing hyphens between the letters.

As far as the complaining about her repeating these words from the council diaz, those kids from the High School not only know what these words mean, but I'm sure they've used the terms themselves on numerous occasions.

So for Judy or anyone else to use the words malcontent, terrorist and bitch seems fine by all concerned. They've got the rights to free speech, just as well as the dd admin.


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Girl Free speech only applies to those who agree with Joe Pilchesky ... what about Poor Ray Lyman ... where was his right to free speech and he said nothing that can be compared to what Joe has said ... and he was threatened with a lawsuit ... where is Ray's freedom to speech? Where was Paul's freedom of speech and Arts and mine ... we were banned because we didn't agree ... that is a fact and not fiction ... so Shari you can say all you want about the slant of the TT ... but what about the slant of DD????

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DD is not a site that allows the free flow of ideas ... open debate ... both sides of a story ... they only allow one ... and if it's not the right one then you are either banned or you are threatened ... and that is the truth ... how else can one take "819 Sunset is the address ..... blah blah blah ... knock on the door anytime and see what happens!" Many threats are made daily over across the hall and nobody does a damn thing about it ... and why ... because they do not want to be on the business end of one of the many Pilchesky lawsuits ... so they all let it be ... and they all are good little sheep and agree with King Pilchesky ... they worship Janet because Joe does ... they dare not say a word against her ... or they risk banning ... so what some see in that site ... others have not experienced ... I didn't try to cause trouble there ... I only offered the truth as I knew it to be when they were making crap up daily about something that should have been allowed to be a private matter between a Husband and a Wife ... nobody's business ... but every day they make every little thing their business ... and it is only my opinion but they stalk Sherry Fanucci ... otherwise they would not know her every move ... they need to get a life .... as does Joe and Edith!

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This thread is an example of what my post below describes .... there is no free flow of debate ... if you happen to have another opinion other than that of Joe himself the goons will attack.

Take a look:



Joe Pilchesky

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And the title of this new RAP release is N*****

It hits the stores next week, and if you're having a hard time finding it, just look for the "N" word. Rapper "Nas", with full support of moguls like LL Cool J, Alicia Keysand others, is launching his new album through Def Jam, which CEO is Jay Z, a leading and prominent figure in the RAP, hip-hopand pop industry. The link below takes you to a press release by MTV.

Album title

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RE: And the title of this new RAP release is N*****

Thank You MR JPFLYING FINGERS

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And the title of this new RAP release is N*****

Everyone has their own thoughts on this, but I can see no reason for using the word. Especially by white men referring to black men. If black people want to use the word, so be it. We shouldn't be dropping it to prove points, bait people, get a result, whatever you thought you were doing by using such an inflammatory word.

I'm not sure I feel comfortable posting here anymore. There's a certain guilt by association feeling I now get.

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RE: And the title of this new RAP release is N*****

Everybody say, AAAwwwwwwwwwwwweee. Garbonzo is going home to his mommy and he wants us to feel sorry for him. Guilt by association, he says, makes it too uncomfortable for him to post here ANONYMOUSLY.

What a crock. Do it the big boy way, like Pilchesky, use your real name.Bye Garbonzo,say hi to mom for us. I'd say don't forget your spine, but you didn't bring one, did ya?
Isn't this charming the way that 340 N Wash has to attack Garbonzo Beans ... what class they show when someone expresses an opinion that does not conform to the mindset of Joe and his goons ... Shame on you Garbonzo Beans for having a mind of your own!

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