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I was out last night, and to what to my wondering ears did appear, but some of the dd'ers were said to be talking to Judy Gatelli and rating each other out, telling her who who was, maybe they are starting to get a bit nevous, oh well it was only a matter of time.

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Like all DD'ers are on the same page. I guess you don't notice the debate and argument over there on many subjects. Do any of you actually believe Pilchesky is some sort of cult leader (like Doherty) who controls the minds of the hundreds who post there? WHo's naive now?

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Like all DD'ers are on the same page. I guess you don't notice the debate and argument over there on many subjects.
Oh on the contrary I have noticed many attempts at debate..then I further noticed those posters get BANNED. So much for debate!

Do any of you actually believe Pilchesky is some sort of cult leader
(like Doherty) who controls the minds of the hundreds who post there?
I believe Joey thinks he is and many there agree with his perspective, those who don't are BANNED pretty fast. As to Doherty?... Funny I don't see any website that he runs spewing nonsense, hatred, black helicoptor stories, and attacking people based on height, weight, religion, race, and <fill in the blank>with any gross thing you can think of at anygiven moment.

WHo's naive now?

I believe that would be you, dear!



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Doherty doesn't have a web site? Check out www.chrisdoherty.com or www.scrantonpa.gov or even www.scrantontimes.com. Each one spreads the twisted, lying gospel according to Chris(T) Doherty.

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I believe I said:

Funny I don't see any website that he runs spewing nonsense, hatred, black helicoptor stories, and attacking people based on height, weight, religion, race, and with any gross thing you can think of at any given moment.

I did not say he doesn't run a website. I said it does not spew the things I mentioned above.

Understand now, dear?

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The Times doesn't spread hatred about Doherty's opposition? His web site doesn't spew lies? The city's web site doesn't spew lies about the city? Where are you from? Get you head out of the sand. They obviously can't "spew" what a message board can, but deceit and lies are the same thing, just in different form and context.

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The Times doesn't spread hatred about Doherty's opposition? His web site doesn't spew lies? The city's web site doesn't spew lies about the city? Where are you from? Get you head out of the sand. They obviously can't "spew" what a message board can, but deceit and lies are the same thing, just in different form and context.


Oh I disagree completely lies (if they are exposed with facts) can be completely overcome. Try undoing the rumors about people's marrigages, sexual orientation, revealing private information about a small child's paternity, undo the damage from attacking someone based on their weight, height, race, and religion. Undo the damage from attacking people's families. Can you do that? How would you feel if it were your children, husband, wife, mother, father that were the focus of these attacks? Explain that!


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You may consider it "twisted, lying gospel", but Chris is NOT pointing fingers and NOT laying blame and NOT speaking about other peoples' children and NOT making a public display of other peoples' marital problems and NOT making a spectacle of other peoples' infidelities and NOT making veiled threats and NOT taking joy in the havoc he is wreaking - like your boy is across the hall.

Chris Doherty raised taxes. Taxes haven't been raised since when? Connors didn't raise a tax, neither did Wenzel. Taxes were DUE to be raised. Sure after all this time, it's a kick in the teeth and since they haven't been raised in so long, they have to be raised considerably. I would sooner have Chris Doherty in the mayor's office spending a buck to make our city better, borrowing a few dollars and raising a tax or two than to have Jimmy Connors following the bandstand just so he can sing with Daddy O.

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Ihave, save it for posters who do that. I don't have to "undo" anything I ever posted. Some people post things that sound incredible. I haven't seen anyone taken away in cuffs over some incredible "lie" or slanderous post yet. The other thing you don't take into consideration is WHY people post those things about elected officials. What could possibly have motivated someone to do that? Maybe an action by those public officials? I'm sure (not in all cases) that people don't just wake up some morning and decide to attack someone for no reason. Something caused that to happen. I believe the corrupt actions of certain individuals are what motivated people. I personally don't attack members of someone's family, unless they're directly involved. And I steer clear of personal attacks. That's none of my business unless it has a direct effect in the performance of their duties. But that's just me. I cannot control what everyone else does and how they act. I'm only responsible for myself and my family members.

Girl, nice to see your brain actually firing today. Very refreshing! If I may respond.


You may consider it "twisted, lying gospel", but Chris is NOT pointing fingers(Really?) and NOT laying blame(he NEVER took the blame for anything. In fact, all he ever does is blame others to justify his actions) and NOT speaking about other peoples' children(Hmm, let's not go there) and NOT making a public display of other peoples' marital problems(I can agree there) and NOT making a spectacle of other peoples' infidelities(ok, I'll give you that one too) and NOT making veiled threats(he's the king of veiled threats my naive friend) and NOT taking joy in the havoc he is wreaking(he seems to enjoy himself causing havoc, or he wouldn't do it) - like your boy is across the hall.

Chris Doherty raised taxes.(wow, your paying attention) Taxes haven't been raised since when? (1999 I believe) Connors didn't raise a tax,(yes he did, once) neither did Wenzel.(yes he did once) Taxes were DUE to be raised.(Due? Even though they didn't have to? Maybe Doherty could use that line next year. "I really can't prove that your taxes need to be raised, but what the hell, they're due") Sure after all this time, it's a kick in the teeth and since they haven't been raised in so long, they have to be raised considerably.(for no other reason than to pay for his twisted agenda, not for running the city) I would sooner have Chris Doherty in the mayor's office spending a buck to make our city better,(please explain to me "what got better"?) borrowing a few dollars( a "few" dollars???? Surely you jest!) and raising a tax or two than to have Jimmy Connors following the bandstand just so he can sing with Daddy O.( If incompetence was a crime, Connors would get life in prison along with his staff. But there's a difference between sheer incompetence and calculated theft of the taxpayers for personal gain. Isn't there someone out there, unlike Connors or Doherty who could possible do something right for a change and for the people and for the right reasons?)


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Ihave, save it for posters who do that. I don't have to "undo" anything I ever posted.
You accused Doherty of aligning himself with the devil's disiples to acheive his agenda, I claim you do do the same, making both of you guilty of doing the same thing.

Some people post things that sound incredible. I haven't seen anyone taken away in cuffs over some incredible "lie" or slanderous post yet.
Funny I haven't seen anyone taken out in cuffs over the so-called-lies you claimappear on Doherty/Times website so then can I assume their lies are in fact truths based on your assestment?

The other thing you don't take into consideration is WHY people post those things about elected officials. What could possibly have motivated someone to do that? Maybe an action by those public officials? I'm sure (not in all cases) that people don't just wake up some morning and decide to attack someone for no reason.
Something caused that to happen. I believe the corrupt actions of certain individuals are what motivated people.
My children often tried to excuse their bad behaviour by saying someoneelse behaved badly first, didn't work for them with me, doesn't work for you with me either! Of course they were children at the time they tried it, what's your excuse? Or the excuse of the other DD goons? Are you children or do you just act like children?


I personally don't attack members of someone's family, unless they're directly involved. And I steer clear of personal attacks. That's none of my business unless it has a direct effect in the performance of their duties. But that's just me. I cannot control what everyone else does and how they act. I'm only responsible for myself and my family members.
Indeed you are!However giving support to people who do in fact do all of the things you claim you don't like or do yourself, makes you just as responsible! Sorry you can wiggle all you want but that's the way it is, dear. I think maybe you are taking a page out of little missy jan's playbook ..she is good at appearing above the fray ( me?? noooooooo I don't know anything about DD or who ?? Joe?? nooooo I don't know him!!) and letting the minions do her dirty work.





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FYI

Ducky this thread had a duplicate so I deleted the duplicate. There were no responses in the duplicate thread. :)

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sharilewis wrote:

Ihave, save it for posters who do that. I don't have to "undo" anything I ever posted.
You accused Doherty of aligning himself with the devil's disiples to acheive his agenda, I claim you do do the same, making both of you guilty of doing the same thing.(and you kettle)

Some people post things that sound incredible. I haven't seen anyone taken away in cuffs over some incredible "lie" or slanderous post yet.
Funny I haven't seen anyone taken out in cuffs over the so-called-lies you claimappear on Doherty/Times website so then can I assume their lies are in fact truths based on your assestment?(sadly, lying about your performance while running the city may not be illegal. It's just immoral and unethical. A lie is a lie is a lie. That's why I post, because that's how I expose the lies. Not much else I can do.)

The other thing you don't take into consideration is WHY people post those things about elected officials. What could possibly have motivated someone to do that? Maybe an action by those public officials? I'm sure (not in all cases) that people don't just wake up some morning and decide to attack someone for no reason.
Something caused that to happen. I believe the corrupt actions of certain individuals are what motivated people.
My children often tried to excuse their bad behaviour by saying someoneelse behaved badly first,(sounds just like a certain mayor we know) didn't work for them with me,(me either) doesn't work for you with me either!(sorry to hear that.) Of course they were children at the time they tried it, what's your excuse?(you are mistaking me for your mayor dear) Or the excuse of the other DD goons?(that's their problem, not mine) Are you children or do you just act like children?(right back at you)


I personally don't attack members of someone's family, unless they're directly involved. And I steer clear of personal attacks. That's none of my business unless it has a direct effect in the performance of their duties. But that's just me. I cannot control what everyone else does and how they act. I'm only responsible for myself and my family members.
Indeed you are!However giving support to people who do in fact do all of the things you claim you don't like or do yourself, makes you just as responsible!(no it doesn't! wait, so what you are saying is when Joe takes a corrupt official to court to right a wrong and you bash him for it, then are you condoning the corrupt actions of those officials?) Sorry you can wiggle all you want but that's the way it is, dear.(in your little mind dear) I think maybe you are taking a page out of little missy jan's playbook (my "playbook, is mine alone)..she is good at appearing above the fray(while we're on the subject, please let me know what Evans has done to get your taxes raised, to cause the deficits or to deteriorate the level of services the city provides. The rest of your blather about her does nothing to effect directly. I can care less about her style,her mannerisms or her personal business. All I've seen from her is exposing corruption. If her "goal" is personal gain, so be it. If she has the power and control that effects me in the future, and I see something wrong with her performance in a negative way, I'll be here standing besides you and posting about it. That's not the case right now. I like what she's doing as far as exposing Doherty for the scum he is.) ( me?? noooooooo I don't know anything about DD or who ?? Joe?? nooooo I don't know him!!) and letting the minions do her dirty work.






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sharilewis wrote:

IHavehadenoughofhaters wrote:

sharilewis wrote:

Ihave, save it for posters who do that. I don't have to "undo" anything I ever posted.
You accused Doherty of aligning himself with the devil's disiples to acheive his agenda, I claim you do do the same, making both of you guilty of doing the same thing.(and you kettle)Not me dear I have never posted at DD never!! I saw them for what they were, and are, I want nothing to do with them. As for posting here I have nothing but praise for our posters they do not engage in the politics of personal destruction that your friends do, with your support.

Some people post things that sound incredible. I haven't seen anyone taken away in cuffs over some incredible "lie" or slanderous post yet.
Funny I haven't seen anyone taken out in cuffs over the so-called-lies you claimappear on Doherty/Times website so then can I assume their lies are in fact truths based on your assestment?(sadly, lying about your performance while running the city may not be illegal. It's just immoral and unethical. A lie is a lie is a lie. That's why I post, because that's how I expose the lies. Not much else I can do.)My question was 'Funny I haven't seen anyone taken out in cuffs over the so-called-lies you claimappear on Doherty/Times website so then can I assume their lies are in fact truths based on your assestment?" You claim something is true unless you get a arrested for it, is it?

The other thing you don't take into consideration is WHY people post those things about elected officials. What could possibly have motivated someone to do that? Maybe an action by those public officials? I'm sure (not in all cases) that people don't just wake up some morning and decide to attack someone for no reason.
Something caused that to happen. I believe the corrupt actions of certain individuals are what motivated people.
My children often tried to excuse their bad behaviour by saying someone else behaved badly first,(sounds just like a certain mayor we know) didn't work for them with me,(me either) doesn't work for you with me either!(sorry to hear that.) Of course they were children at the time they tried it, what's your excuse?(you are mistaking me for your mayor dear) Or the excuse of the other DD goons?(that's their problem, not mine) Are you children or do you just act like children?(right back at you)You offered the excuses for your friends so apparently you did think it would "justify" their behaviour. Why else offer that as "motivation" as you did above?


I personally don't attack members of someone's family, unless they're directly involved. And I steer clear of personal attacks. That's none of my business unless it has a direct effect in the performance of their duties. But that's just me. I cannot control what everyone else does and how they act. I'm only responsible for myself and my family members.
Indeed you are!However giving support to people who do in fact do all of the things you claim you don't like or do yourself, makes you just as responsible!(no it doesn't! wait, so what you are saying is when Joe takes a corrupt official to court to right a wrong and you bash him for it, Oh no I just bash him cause he's a goof and when (if) any of those "lawsuits" actually produce fruit I shall then evaluate the merit of themthen are you condoning the corrupt actions of those officials?) Sorry you can wiggle all you want but that's the way it is, dear.(in your little mind dear) No that's how it is period! It's only in your mind that you think you can wiggle out of your personal responsiblity I think maybe you are taking a page out of little missy jan's playbook (my "playbook, is mine alone)..she is good at appearing above the fray(while we're on the subject, please let me know what Evans has done to get your taxes raised, to cause the deficits or to deteriorate the level of services the city provides. Tell me what's she done to lower them? Show me one thing she has done at all, except to run her mouth endlessly. Remember the mark of an "effective legislator" is to be able to work well with others in order to pass legislation for the betterment of the community. If she can't pass anything she is worthless as a legislator. She's pretty good at blowing her own horn not to mention getting others to do it for her (like you) I notice! The rest of your blather about her does nothing to effect directly. I can care less about her style,her mannerisms or her personal business. All I've seen from her is exposing corruption. If her "goal" is personal gain, so be it. If she has the power and control Apparently she doesn't as nothing has changed at least according to you. that effects me in the future, and I see something wrong with her performance in a negative way, I'll be here standing besides you and posting about it. That's not the case right now. I like what she's doing as far as exposing Doherty for the scum he is.) ( me?? noooooooo I don't know anything about DD or who ?? Joe?? nooooo I don't know him!!) and letting the minions do her dirty work. She's pretty truthful too, don't think, based on her denials?









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Ihave, save it for posters who do that. I don't have to "undo" anything I ever posted.
You accused Doherty of aligning himself with the devil's disiples to acheive his agenda, I claim you do do the same, making both of you guilty of doing the same thing.(and you kettle)Not me dear I have never posted at DD never!! I saw them for what they were, and are, I want nothing to do with them.THATS YOUR CHOICE) As for posting here I have nothing but praise for our posters they do not engage in the politics of personal destruction that your friends do,(FRIENDS? WHO SAID ANYONE WAS MY FRIEND? i JUST KNOW WHO MANY OF THEM ARE, WELL A FEW ARE MY FRIENDS) with your support.

Some people post things that sound incredible. I haven't seen anyone taken away in cuffs over some incredible "lie" or slanderous post yet.
Funny I haven't seen anyone taken out in cuffs over the so-called-lies you claimappear on Doherty/Times website so then can I assume their lies are in fact truths based on your assestment?(sadly, lying about your performance while running the city may not be illegal. It's just immoral and unethical. A lie is a lie is a lie. That's why I post, because that's how I expose the lies. Not much else I can do.)My question was 'Funny I haven't seen anyone taken out in cuffs over the so-called-lies you claimappear on Doherty/Times website so then can I assume their lies are in fact truths based on your assestment?(JUST LIKE EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS YOUR ASSESSMENT. I THINK YOUR WRONG. CAN WE AGREE TO DISAGREE?" You claim something is true unless you get a arrested for it, is it?(NO, THAT'S YOUR ASSESSMENT ALSO FROM YOUR FEEBLE MIND. YOUR FEEBLE MIND IS MYASSESSMENT! CAN WE AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THAT TOO?)

The other thing you don't take into consideration is WHY people post those things about elected officials. What could possibly have motivated someone to do that? Maybe an action by those public officials? I'm sure (not in all cases) that people don't just wake up some morning and decide to attack someone for no reason.
Something caused that to happen. I believe the corrupt actions of certain individuals are what motivated people.
My children often tried to excuse their bad behaviour by saying someone else behaved badly first,(sounds just like a certain mayor we know) didn't work for them with me,(me either) doesn't work for you with me either!(sorry to hear that.) Of course they were children at the time they tried it, what's your excuse?(you are mistaking me for your mayor dear) Or the excuse of the other DD goons?(that's their problem, not mine) Are you children or do you just act like children?(right back at you)You offered the excuses for your friends(THERE GOES THE LUMPING AGAIN) so apparently you did think it would "justify" their behaviour. (WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF "THEM" INDIVIDUALLY, AND ASSESS THEM "INDIVIDUALLY" THEN I MAKE MY ASSESSMENT ON THEIR POSTS "INDIVIDUALLY". SAYING THEM IS NOT AN ACCURATE WAY TO ASSESS THE MESSAGE BOARD OR THE MESSENGERS". BUT THAT'S HOW FEEBLE MINDS OPERATE. WE GENERALIZE OR PAINT WITH A BROAD BRUSH, AND THAT ISN'T ACCURATE)Why else offer that as "motivation" as you did above?


I personally don't attack members of someone's family, unless they're directly involved. And I steer clear of personal attacks. That's none of my business unless it has a direct effect in the performance of their duties. But that's just me. I cannot control what everyone else does and how they act. I'm only responsible for myself and my family members.
Indeed you are!However giving support to people who do in fact do all of the things you claim you don't like or do yourself, makes you just as responsible!(no it doesn't! wait, so what you are saying is when Joe takes a corrupt official to court to right a wrong and you bash him for it, Oh no I just bash him cause he's a goof and when (if) any of those "lawsuits" actually produce fruit I shall then evaluate the merit of themthen are you condoning the corrupt actions of those officials?) Sorry you can wiggle all you want but that's the way it is, dear.(in your little mind dear) No that's how it is period!(OF COURSE IT IS. COMING FROM THE JUDGE, JURY AND ALL KNOWING IHAVE! HOW DUMB OF ME TO THINK YOU CAN'T POSSIBLE BE WRONG) It's only in your mind that you think you can wiggle out of your personal responsiblity I think maybe you are taking a page out of little missy jan's playbook (my "playbook, is mine alone)..she is good at appearing above the fray(while we're on the subject, please let me know what Evans has done to get your taxes raised, to cause the deficits or to deteriorate the level of services the city provides. Tell me what's she done to lower them? Show me one thing she has done at all, except to run her mouth endlessly. Remember the mark of an "effective legislator" is to be able to work well with others in order to pass legislation for the betterment of the community. If she can't pass anything she is worthless as a legislator.(HMM. I SEEM TO REMEMBER HER PASSING MOST OF WHAT COMES UP FROM DOHERTY. BUT UNLIKE THE RUBBERSTAMPERS, SHE WILL OFTEN CRITICIZE SOME OF THE LEGISLATION. ISN'T CHECKS AND BALANCES A PART OF DEMOCRACY, OR SHOULD EVERY COUNCIL PERSON JUST LAY DOWN AND ACCET ANYTHING THE MAYOR WANTS? She's pretty good at blowing her own horn not to mention getting others to do it for her (like you) I notice!I CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT, EXCEPT I CALL IT BASED ON REALITY AND NOT BLIND HATE FOR SOMEONES STYLE, PERSONALITY OR CONTENT OF A MESSAGE BOARD. MY THOUGHT PROCESS SEEMS TO GO A LITTLE DEEPER THAN YOURS AND I CAN PUT ASIDE MINOR ISSUES. eVANS CAN RANT OR "RUN HER MOUTH" ALL SHE WANTS. I JUDGE PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR ACTIONS, NOT THEIR STYLE. The rest of your blather about her does nothing to effect directly. I can care less about her style,her mannerisms or her personal business. All I've seen from her is exposing corruption. If her "goal" is personal gain, so be it. If she has the power and control Apparently she doesn't as nothing has changed at least according to you. (TWO VOTES ON COUNCIL DOES NOT MAKE FOR CHANGE) that effects me in the future, and I see something wrong with her performance in a negative way, I'll be here standing besides you and posting about it. That's not the case right now. I like what she's doing as far as exposing Doherty for the scum he is.) ( me?? noooooooo I don't know anything about DD or who ?? Joe?? nooooo I don't know him!!) and letting the minions do her dirty work. She's pretty truthful too, don't think, based on her denials?(FROM WHAT I KNOW, GATELLI IS GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE THOSE ALLEGATIONS IN COURT. WE'LL FIND OUT SOON ENOUGH WHO'S TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP. I WOULDN'T BET MY MONEY ON GATELLI COMING FROM COURT UNSCATHED)


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Let's just rephrase that paragraph to read - Chris Doherty is not the fingerpointing, derogatory, instigating, gossip monger your friend across the hall is. I find no reason to itemize because all that will do is expand on the dd gossip. You're a regular over there - you know what I'm talking about.

::: ... but Chris is NOT pointing fingers (Really?) :::
Nice comeback, expand on your reply please.

::: ... and NOT speaking about other peoples' children(Hmm, let's not go there) :::
Again, nice comeback, expand on your reply please because I have NO idea where you are going with this - and bring proof to back up your blathering.

::: and NOT making veiled threats(he's the king of veiled threats my naive friend) :::
First of all, you need to differentiate between veiled threats and outright and blatant threats which promise bodily harm. And secondly, you and I are not aquaintances and we are not friends. We are simply two people on a message board with a difference of opinion. And thirdly, just because I don't happen to agree with you does not make me naive.

::: ... and NOT taking joy in the havoc he is wreaking(he seems to enjoy himself causing havoc, or he wouldn't do it) :::
Again, nice comeback, expand on your reply please - do you mean "he" as in Chris Doherty or as in Pilchesky - and bring proof.

::: ... Even though they didn't have to? Maybe Doherty could use that line next year. "I really can't prove that your taxes need to be raised, but what the hell, they're due") :::
Yes, taxes were due to be raised. If you wouldn't mind - do not put words in my mouth. I did not say 'even though they didn't have to".

I could say your arse is 'due' to be wiped - and you could say it 'doesn't need it'.
One of us wants to clean something up - and the other would rather is stay dirty.

::: Chris Doherty in the mayor's office spending a buck to make our city better,(please explain to me "what got better"?) :::
Simply look around - all you see is the dollar sign. If you (solely as an individual) can not afford this tax increase - then march yourself down to the mayor's office and try to do something about it, instead of mouthing off to me on some message board.

::: ... no other reason than to pay for his twisted agenda, ... :::
I look at is as the old man acriss the hall having a twisted agenda. You see him as a savior. I see him as the epitome of a fingerpointing, derogatory, instigating, gossip monger.

::: But there's a difference between sheer incompetence and calculated theft of the taxpayers for personal gain ... :::
Just because he spent a buck someplace other than lower Green Ridge or paving Capouse Avenue he is a bad guy. Chris Doherty has not said all the right things or done all the right things and I'll be the first to admit that. But for the love of Mike, just because the guy didn't do exactly what YOU (collectively) want - well, now the guy is the anti-christ with a piss-poor budget.

::: Isn't there someone out there, unlike Connors or Doherty who could possible do something right for a change and for the people and for the right reasons?) :::
There are many many people - but you can't please all the people all the time. Those of you (collectively) with a hot nut for any one individual will spread your viscious dd bull$hit at the drop of a hat without giving any thought to who or what you are hurting. So yeah - there are lots of people out there who would be GREAT as our mayor - but none so great that they would subject themselves (and their families and friends) to the collective nonsense of dd just because someone saw him jaywalking across North Washington fifteen years ago.



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It's a good thing I didn't call anyone a gasbag or a windbag --
that last post is a doosey --
sorry for my longwindedness ..

and what's with all the copying multiple posts
over and over again?

that irritates me more than replying to
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Sorry! I couldn't think of anyway better to do it until I saw your response of course. Now I shall do it that way. :))

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Shari...

You wrote the following:

"I personally don't attack members of someone's family, unless they're directly involved. And I steer clear of personal attacks. That's none of my business unless it has a direct effect in the performance of their duties. But that's just me. I cannot control what everyone else does and how they act. I'm only responsible for myself and my family members."

One simple point on my part in response: PROVE IT.

I don't know you, therefore I have no way of knowing whether your are being honest or lying. However you can, right now, show all of us that what you wrote (above) is true by telling us who you are in the 'DD' world. Talk is cheap Shari, and you seeming inability to fess-up to your identity makes me (for one) question your honesty.

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I don't have to prove anything to you. It's not worth my time. If hundreds of people were reading this board, maybe it would be worth the time. Are you and Girl one in the same? You've both used the "prove it" nonsense a little too much. Maybe I'll go back to asking you to prove everything you post and you can all waste your time with me. Except Art, that is. Seems the cat has his tongue lately. What's wrong guys? Don't you like your little back slappin', love fest neighborhood anymore since I arrived?

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(FRIENDS? WHO SAID ANYONE WAS MY FRIEND? I JUST KNOW WHO MANY OF THEM ARE, WELL A FEW ARE MY FRIENDS
You just did! Though of course I had already guessed it before you admitted it, even with my feeble mind, imagine that!


Some people post things that sound incredible. I haven't seen anyone taken away in cuffs over some incredible "lie" or slanderous post yet.
(NO, THAT'S YOUR ASSESSMENT ALSO FROM YOUR FEEBLE MIND. YOUR FEEBLE MIND IS MY ASSESSMENT! CAN WE AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THAT TOO?)
No as those are your words in blue it was your assessment. Yes we can agree that your assessment is wrong, that is what I was trying to point out all along.

You offered the excuses for your friends(THERE GOES THE LUMPING AGAIN) so apparently you did think it would "justify" their behavior. (WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF "THEM" INDIVIDUALLY, AND ASSESS THEM "INDIVIDUALLY" THEN I MAKE MY ASSESSMENT ON THEIR POSTS "INDIVIDUALLY". SAYING THEM IS NOT AN ACCURATE WAY TO ASSESS THE MESSAGE BOARD OR THE MESSENGERS". BUT THAT'S HOW FEEBLE MINDS OPERATE. WE GENERALIZE OR PAINT WITH A BROAD BRUSH, AND THAT ISN'T ACCURATE)
Actually I have reached my conclusion on the whole board in the following way. I read the posts. The posts which weren't totally despicable were also not pointing out the posters who are despicable, thus leaving me no other conclusion than that they had no problem with those despicable posters. The posts which did point out the disgusting behavior of the despicable posters were gone in about 60 seconds. So basically posters fall into three categories over at DD. You are a despicable disgusting poster, or you are a supporter of the despicable disgusting posters, or you're banned. You have stated you aren't banned so which of the two remaining categories do you fall into Sheri?

I personally don't attack members of someone's family, unless they're directly involved. And I steer clear of personal attacks. That's none of my business unless it has a direct effect in the performance of their duties. But that's just me. I cannot control what everyone else does and how they act. I'm only responsible for myself and my family members.
Indeed you are!However giving support to people who do in fact do all of the things you claim you don't like or do yourself, makes you just as responsible Sorry you can wiggle all you want but that's the way it is, dear!(OF COURSE IT IS. COMING FROM THE JUDGE, JURY AND ALL KNOWING IHAVE! HOW DUMB OF ME TO THINK YOU CAN'T POSSIBLE BE WRONG)
Oh quite to the contrary dear, I can be, and often am wrong, but not on this one, because this is not my interpretation of the rules, it societies interpretation of the rules. If you hang out with slime balls, you will be slimed by them in the eyes of the public. Now since my word isn't good enough for you let's use someone who you seem to hold in high esteem. What would happen to someone's reputation if it were to known they were associating with the DD goons. Let's ask little missy jan. Little mIssy jan seems to have at least a passing knowledge of what would look good or bad to the general public. In fact, I would go so far as to say she is most astute at predicting public sentiment of any given issue and making sure she is on the right side of the issue. So when given the opportunity to declare her allegiance, as it pertained to DD, did she in fact say Oh yes I do know about that website, and I agree with them wholeheartedly, or did she in fact state that she has no knowledge of the website? Right she denied knowledge of it!Same for her knowledge of Joey. DENIED!! Same as to her posting there. DENIED! Why?? I'll tell you why, because she knew the general public would find her less than attractive if they thought she was involved there.T hey would find her behavior slimy. Believe me when, or if, that shameless self-promoter ever think's that website has become a mainstream area, not only will she be declaring her allegiance to it, I suspect she may move right in with Joey and Joanne to show her full support. So darling, it is not just my feeble minded impression that DD is a disgusting arena and any posters who post there may be painted with the slime brush, little Miss Jan knows it too.


(HMM. I SEEM TO REMEMBER HER PASSING MOST OF WHAT COMES UP FROM DOHERTY. BUT UNLIKE THE RUBBERSTAMPERS, SHE WILL OFTEN CRITICIZE SOME OF THE LEGISLATION. ISN'T CHECKS AND BALANCES A PART OF DEMOCRACY, OR SHOULD EVERY COUNCIL PERSON JUST LAY DOWN AND ACCET ANYTHING THE MAYOR WANTS?
So Jan passes most of Doherty agenda items ehh?? Hummm thats strange.. no one thinks she's a doobee, yet you claim she is mostly in favor of his agenda. Hummm very strange!

I CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT, EXCEPT I CALL IT BASED ON REALITY AND NOT BLIND HATE FOR SOMEONES STYLE, PERSONALITY OR CONTENT OF A MESSAGE BOARD. MY THOUGHT PROCESS SEEMS TO GO A LITTLE DEEPER THAN YOURS AND I CAN PUT ASIDE MINOR ISSUES.
I am sure you far far more of deep thinker than I, you and anti are both very deep!

(FROM WHAT I KNOW, GATELLI IS GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE THOSE ALLEGATIONS IN COURT.
I was referring to Missy Jans interview in the Times. And as she didnt have the reporter dragged out in cuffs or sued for libel, we can (based of course on your litmus test) be sure the interview was totally true.Questions were asked and she responded. The answers are now preserved for all time. J

WE'LL FIND OUT SOON ENOUGH WHO'S TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP. I WOULDN'T BET MY MONEY ON GATELLI COMING FROM COURT UNSCATHED)
Nor am I, counting on Missy Jan coming from court unscathed either. J Perhaps we will both be wrong..who knows...only time will tell.


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Can I ask all of you a great favor ... can we quote a post and then respond I'm getting a bit weary reading the same post over and over and over ... I know that it works nicely when answering a post ... but it's getting a bit tiresome.

This is not a rule ... simply a request.

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sharilewis wrote:

I don't have to prove anything to you. It's not worth my time. If hundreds of people were reading this board, maybe it would be worth the time. Are you and Girl one in the same? You've both used the "prove it" nonsense a little too much. Maybe I'll go back to asking you to prove everything you post and you can all waste your time with me. Except Art, that is. Seems the cat has his tongue lately. What's wrong guys? Don't you like your little back slappin', love fest neighborhood anymore since I arrived?



Shari ... according to you in another thread ... you claim that because of you and our other two interesting posters that we do now have hundreds of readers ... so which is it? Nobody is reading ... or you have raised up our readership?

You can ask for proof of anything ... butplease remember that you also are required to offer up proof ... you claim that you post nothing out of line at DD and you claim to have called others on their posts ... Art wanted to know which poster you were over across the hall and well you will not tell so ... you can not prove that you are what you claim to be ... fair and honest ...

We ... could ignore ... you know like Art has been doing is that what you want? Our neighborhood is just fine even since the three of you moved in ... and I actually like Jimbu ... personally I think that he has offered more in his posts than you have ... he unlike you has registered using the same member name that he uses at DD ... so we know what he posts and we have a good idea of how he feels about things. He is hiding nothing. Shed is very quiet ...
You on the other hand are a different story ... you won't tell us your DD identity so to me you are hiding something. You can tell us all you want that you don't do this and don't condone that ... but how are we to believe you ... we (or at least I) do not care who you are any longer ... I don't care to read your posts over there any more ... I think you are a liar ... but you already knew that ...

Your mission seems to be to get banned from here ... I think you want to be the first to be banned well I can tell you that it's NOT going to happen ...



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::: ... You've both used the "prove it" nonsense a little too much. ... :::
"prove it prove it prove it"

That's the sound of someone who is not going to believe a word you say (or type) unless you can back it up with something other than "because I said so" or "I knew someone who ...".

Whadda ya say -- let's have some proof about some of the nonsense at dd - put up or shut up, as it were and get your buddies to fess up. For starters, get me some proof about the following:

The nefarious plot about the jobs of Gatelli's kids
The dame in McTiernan's bed
OECD individual medical records
The sexual preference of a particular senator
The sexual preference of an upper-echelon city empoyee

Proof - it's a good thing.

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..."He has already been thevictim of intimidationat his home, where his wife and children live, by not only a "circling-trying-to-nab-automobiles" bicycle cop ".....

If anyone truly believes that the bicycle cop was near Patilla's home to intimidate him, then sadly, the paranoia on this message board has reached epic proportions.

While the anonymous letter is certainly troubling, and threatening in some sense, why would a law abiding citizen feel threatened by a police officer in front of their home?

Let's just suppose for a second what you are proposing is true. Imagine the conspiracy. Gatelli talks to someone, (who would she call?) and asks that the Scranton Police force engage in intimidation. Step one, is find an officer so loyal to the administration that he or she wont ever reveal this planned crime. (I know of no one that loyal to the administration, especially because if they are caught they risk not only job termination, but federal prosecution)
Step two, involve this officer's superior, so he or she is able to perform the intimidation without fear of reprisal from a superior. (Okay, so now we have several cops involved, all who are willing to risk their careers and jail time.) Step three, determine Sam's address. (Although not impossible, it will involve a paper trail and therefore run the risk of being exposed, and definitely involve more people in the conspiracy) And finally, after all the risk, have a cop on a bike ride around in circles and hope Patilla is home, and then, hope he sees the cops and has a reaction. Wouldn't a logical and much more obvious solution be to pull the guy over for some bogus traffic violation?

My final question is, "For what?" For what purpose? If anyone aggravates Gatelli, it's Fay Franus. Wouldn't she be the likely target if this were actually orchestrated by Gatelli?

My closing statement: The idea of several members (minimum) of the Scranton Police department engaging in intimidation of a law abiding citizen, risking their careers and jail time, whose plan includes driving a bike in circles in an intersectionall for the sake of Judy Gatelli is not just paranoid, it's ludicrous.

(actually, the plan was to have Patilla kidnapped, and brought to the island where they are still keeping JFKand Jim Morrison alive, and have him brought in front of the Trilateral commision, who will ulitamtely sentence him to serve at area 51 doing reverse engineering on UFO's. ) Will someone please cue the cuckoo clock sound effect?


Firetrucking BRILLIANT post, Hardcore.

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I disagree. It's common knowledge that JFK is still on life support in the basement of the White House. Ignoring this obvious fact negates what would have been a good post.

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That's not JFK. That's Kevin Klein.

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Right...good post Hardcore.

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Ok then were did they hide Hoffa that's whatI want to know!!

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Hardcore wrote: "If anyone truly believes that the bicycle cop was near Patilla's home to intimidate him, then sadly, the paranoia on this message board has reached epic proportions."1. That's the ONLY time any cop appeared at that intersection for any reason, according to ALL of the other neighbors. I dont think so, I know 3 people who live there and see the bike cop all the time, maybe he just asked JULIE JONES who lives at that intersection also*****fyi lets ask her about the illegal daycare she used to run from her house****** 2. The officer is related to Sherry, owner of the salon Sam has been harping about at council. LIE #2 I just happen to know the officer and he is in NO WAY related to Sherry from the salon 3. Sam's buttons were a very cool neon yellow, flashing, no less. 4. Intimidate him? Not likely. Get the response they got at the next council meeting? Very likely."While the anonymous letter is certainly troubling, and threatening in some sense, why would a law abiding citizen feel threatened by a police officer in front of their home?"1. Threatening in some sense? Hardcore is clearly white with no history of survivng black discrimination and prejudice. If a cop showed up in front of my house on a bicycle, repeatedly circling the road waiting for someone to run a stop sign so he could pull them over, I'd get in my truck (the large one) and run his ass right over for looking me dead in the eye and lying to me. I'd be as insulted as Sam was. I personally think that is being a bit PARANOID Cops in cars sit a half a block away waiting for those running stop signs, they don't circle the intersection. (now maybe I'm a little smarter than the average person, but is it not easier to circle an intersection on a bike vs a car.......DUH "My final question is, "For what?" For what purpose? If anyone aggravates Gatelli, it's Fay Franus. Wouldn't she be the likely target if this were actually orchestrated by Gatelli?" 1. For what purpose? This thread speaks to the purpose. See Commonwealth of Pa. vs. Sam Patilla. Patilla has been Patilla for six weeks. He was no different that night, ot in tone or intent."My closing statement: The idea of several members (minimum) of the Scranton Police department engaging in intimidation of a law abiding citizen, risking their careers and jail time, whose plan includes driving a bike in circles in an intersection all for the sake of Judy Gatelli is not just paranoid, it's ludicrous." 1. Risking their careers and jail time? In front of what judge, and after who gave the green light on any charges? All for the sake of Judy Gatelli? You bet your ass. Reminder, she puts those multi-million dollar TANs on the agenda, or they don't get there, among other things, like passing our hefty new tax. She's the mule, and what the mule wants, the mule gets, and she wanted to shut down council speakers. The Sam Plan is just another effort to get that done, and a wasted effort it was, as the future shall reveal." (actually, the plan was to have Patilla kidnapped, and brought to the island where they are still keeping JFK and Jim Morrison alive, and have him brought in front of the Trilateral commision, who will ulitamtely sentence him to serve at area 51 doing reverse engineering on UFO's. ) Will someone please cue the cuckoo clock sound effect?"1. Actually, the plan was to use as much abuse of government authority and spending as possible to launch Chris Doherty in the direction of the Gov's Mansion, leaving Scranton totally destroyed under the rubble sculpted in the form of media insulation. As things have turned out for Doherty, the insulation was a little too transparent and the good mayor made too many formidable enemies. Your "actually" scenario has more plausible truth to it than mine, considering where Doherty's political career is now situated. 2. The cuckoo clock was cued the day Doherty took office, and many of us responded.

Ducky's comments in red italic.

Sorry for the edit but I highlighted a comment in blue. Did Joe just threaten to "run over" a police officer? Sure seems like it to me.

-- Edited by Paul at 19:55, 2007-07-02

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