RE: The Doherty Three!! IMHO, it reveals all we need to know about Gatelli, Fanucci, McGoff: they are weak, feeble-minded simpletons desperately wanting to belong, eager to demonstrate their unwavering loyalty to Doherty, the ICN, et al, by withstandingpersonal embarrassment, humilation, and demoralization -- they will jump through whatever hoops -- and will neglect and dismiss the electorate, as well as their own consciences, for a measly few tossed crumbs. Unfortunately, in this area, there are many, many more just waiting their turns. They're easy pickings.
RE: The Doherty Three!! IMHO, it reveals all we need to know about Gatelli, Fanucci, McGoff: they are weak, feeble-minded simpletons desperately wanting to belong, eager to demonstrate their unwavering loyalty to Doherty, the ICN, et al, by withstandingpersonal embarrassment, humilation, and demoralization -- they will jump through whatever hoops -- and will neglect and dismiss the electorate, as well as their own consciences, for a measly few tossed crumbs. Unfortunately, in this area, there are many, many more just waiting their turns. They're easy pickings.
If I were a betting woman ... I would put money on her being poster NotADumbBlonde ... I think we sort of figured that one out back when we were on Chumster didn't we?
I think you also may be right that Fay is may be the poster Franchise54 ... sounds like Fay rantings.
-- Edited by LusOnlyVoice at 17:36, 2007-03-17
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I want everyone to stop and think about one thing ... Joe Pilchesky is not a lawyer ... he's just a guy playing a lawyer on the internet. Please don't trust your legal needs to this man.
Hmmmmmm this wasn't readily apparent in the video that I watched, so how would 'NotADumbBlonde' know this? What do my fellow posters think, is this a 'gotcha'?
[see below for the right pasted posting]
-- Edited by Agamemnon at 18:49, 2007-03-19
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
Apparently, after Lyman was making still more of a fool out of himself, Janet could be seen leaning toward Minora, then over to Fanucci, who leans to Gatelli, then the motion to adjourn was made and immediately seconded by Courtright.
Now, conspiracy theorists, riddle me this.
If Janet is so much her own woman with sterling decision making skills and an uncanny ability to think for herself, why did she immedeately relay the message (assuming that's what the message was in the first place)? If she had any sort of real backbone, that sort of message would have died on the vine. No one asked for his opinion, but Janet was more than ready to act on it, if that was in fact what he said.
Secondly, being out of the message chain and apparently not aware of what Amil was allegedly "ordering", why was Courtright so quick to second the motion? Why did Janet then vote "Aye" instead of "Nay"?
The answer is simple. Adjourning that meeting was the right thing to do. The only thing that could have been done.
And to all you DD chowderheads: You do NOT have the RIGHT to speak at Council. Nowhere does it say that you do. You have the PRIVELIGE of speaking at Council. There are provisions for "citizen participation", as laid down by Council. Nothing specifically says anything about speaking before a televised session of Council for a certain period of time. Citizen participation could be limited to letters to council and closed chambers, and there's not a damn thing you or your ACLU rejects can do about it.
Cameras are also not required. That is at the pleasure of Council. They can, and should (IMO) be taken away indefinately. Eliminating the circus you've brought, and removing the cameras is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, a violation of anything remotely constitutional. And even if it were, by some very lax interpretation, your rights stop where mine begin. I believe I have a right to an effective legeslative body. When your grandstanding, attention-whoring, and general childishness interferes with this, you have infringed on MY rights, and the rights of the other 66,988 other citizens of Scranton.
Extremely well said. Especially the part about speaking at council being a priviledge and not a right. It's their right to have a (collective) big mouth and MY right not to have to hear it.
Paul, if you didn't have so many skleletons in your very own closet, I would suggest you run for council yourself. (Just kidding, you are an exemplary and well-spoken citizen.)
Thanks. I've actually given it some thought. I have a lot to learn first, though. (Just as the idiots at DD.com have a lot to learn, too. Including manners, respect, and decorum. I'm just smart enough to know I don't know it all, and I don't pretend to.) Once Council returns to being about city business instead of about a vocal minority advancing a personal agenda via disruptive and abusive behavior, I'd consider it. Until then, I'd just as soon subject myself to regular root canals.
Not sure if this is the correct spot to post this but if you prefer to move it, go right ahead.
Joe Pilchesky
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FACT: JANET EVANS ABSOLUTELY STEPPED ASIDE TO LET GARY RUN.
Janet does not step aside for anyone. As a matter of fact, ask Courtright who decided to run for state representative first. Janet then decided to run after telling Courtright that she was not going to run.
I want everyone to stop and think about one thing ... Joe Pilchesky is not a lawyer ... he's just a guy playing a lawyer on the internet. Please don't trust your legal needs to this man.
"Turn the Camera off..." Bob McGoff It wasn't Gatelli's idea to adjourn the meeting -- it was Minora's. What's his role in all of this? No one asked for his opinion. (red added by Agamemnon, because I keep missing the text with my bad eyesight)
-- Edited by Agamemnon at 18:57, 2007-03-19
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
I want everyone to stop and think about one thing ... Joe Pilchesky is not a lawyer ... he's just a guy playing a lawyer on the internet. Please don't trust your legal needs to this man.
Freedom of Speech, until it disagrees with Joe, right? Best part was that Edith Bunker edited the title to something like "I Think Janet Officially Off Her Rocker". HA!!! Joanne's such an idiot sometimes.
Well I just watched the re-run of Scranton's favorite sitcom, "The City Council Meeting" and it is crystal clear that Janet is officially nuts. I heard it from a good source that the new crazy house that Dr. Berger is building is going to house Janet and Janet alone, and they plan to make so much money on her psycho-therapy that they will retire in less than 2 months. Janet and her fake blond wig have now become registered, card-carrying members of the Legion of Doom. I hear from a good source that her campaign song is "If You're Crazy and You Know It Vote For Me." It is so nice to see how all of you haters have enlightened the City Council meetings with all of your wisdom. I can't wait for Janet to run for Mayor, can't wait.
Hey Art. Since this one seems to want to throw themselves over the “altar” of Miss-I-am for-the-people-Jan, maybe you can “educate” them to her curious way of not doing anything for herself while in office. You know…..run for School Director, call yourself the “Peoples Candidate”, get elected, then promptly secure a job for yourself as a teacher in that district, resign, and it’s adios “people” screw you until I need you again to run for another political office.Seems they either don’t know about that “small thing” she got out of “serving the people” or they conveniently forgot. Hummmm I wonder which is it uninformed or a liar? Oh and one more “small thing”….. After she ran and won her seat on City Council, she promptly began working on her “next” job…you know State Representative!!If this poster wonders what Miss Jan might get out of that job…..refer her to the “salary” they receive among other “perks”.Ya she does all of this for “us” she gets nothing out of it!! Nothing my ass!!
...I have continued to read this forum for quite some time; however, I have never been so compelled to respond or post until having read this tripe. In fact, this is my first post......... Janet Evans has NEVER been concerned with Janet Evans. The work and effort that she puts into council should be applauded, not sneered at. She has nothing to benefit from the work she puts into council, nothing.
Art - you can be our version of Joe. We'll just issue orders as we sit on our big fat internet
Art, go across the hall and tell Joe this Art, go across the hall and tell Joe that Art, go across the hall and give Joe 'whatfor' Art, go across the hall and get banned again for us Art, go across the hall and tell Joe that Timmy is stuck in a well Art, go across the hall and tell Granma that she's a boob Art, go across the hall and and and and
(This post was made in jest and is intended strictly for comic relief. To view full disclaimer, visit my homepage.)
His Girl Thursday wrote: Art - you can be our version of Joe. We'll just issue orders as we sit on our big fat internet
Oh dear, I guess it does sound like that, I am so sorry Art. I think I was still a little angry after reading that post that I didn't stop to word my request properly. <bowing> Please except my apologies.
Let me say this again a little more politely...If it wouldn't be to much trouble and, if you be so kind as to carry my message over to the goons, I would be very grateful.
I know you were just poking some fun "Girl" but I thank you for pointing that out to me, sometimes I get too enthusiatic for my own good. Thank you again.
Janet was quoted in the Scranton Times as saying that Judy Gatelli should resign as Council President. Dare I ask, for what? I mean come on, it's not as if Ms Gatelli is posting anonymously on an internet message board or something like that...no, Judy Gatelli is guility of far, far worse...she dared to push back on the thugs who believe they have carte blanche to use council meetings to further personal agendas, vendettas, etc.
Janet Evans, you suck.
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
Well I just hope that Janet did not post anything that she should not have posted ... who know what this is going to shake out ...
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I want everyone to stop and think about one thing ... Joe Pilchesky is not a lawyer ... he's just a guy playing a lawyer on the internet. Please don't trust your legal needs to this man.
Janet claims to "barely know" the old man. Maybe had him over for dinner once.
The old man himself, however, has admitted to meeting with her "often". Saint Gary has also claimed to have seen meetings between the two of them. Former Clerk Saunders said they “do indeed know each other and have often worked together.”
In upcoming elections, who has the most to lose? Joe apparently has no political aspirations--not to mention credibility or influence, so he has nothing to lose. Neither does Saunders. DiBileo's career fell apart when he courted the Pilchesky crowd, so he has nothing left to lose politically. Janet, however, clearly has eyes on the Mayors office and higher. Yet she's got this pesky connection to Pilchesky and his followers. I'm not claiming anything between the two on a personal romantic level. I don't need the mental image, quite frankly. (I never watched the Faces of Death movies or look at rotten.com anymore for very similar reasons.) She's the only one with anything to lose by this association.
Janet, therefore, is suddenly attempting to publicly distance herself from the old man and his kind, apparently because she's subpoenaed every election result in the history of time and has learned that 27 votes--the number that DD.com will deliver, probably half that when you take out the out of towners, felons, and sock accounts--has never won an election in this city.
Janet is the one who is looking like the biggest fool in all of this, and she's selling out Pilchesky, denying him as much as she can get away with, because he is finally appearing to be a political liability to her. Yet Gatelli is the one branded a Judas?
Janet Evans, on top of all the other reasons why you suck, you suck most of all for doing what you're doing to your boy Pilchesky. I'm no fan of either of you, but friends simply do not do that to each other. You have proven yourself to be the most shallow and dispicable politician this area has seen in ages, and I hope you're very proud of that. YOU, you condescending airbag, are the big joke at city council. Lyman on his worst day will never be the ignorant, aloof C U Next Thursday that you are.
Again Janet Evans MARVELIOUS !! As a person outside the City of Scranton ... Mrs Evans has a very bad rep ... everyone you talk to believes she is behind all of the problems in Scranton.
I know the people on this board will disagree with this post ... but don't kill the messanger ...I am just telling you what people outside of Scranton feel about her.