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Just thought I would ask this question due to gary"s possible write in campaing I ran in to gary out and he filled me in on some things happening around the city and would like some opinions. Thanks

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hes too far sighted, thinking so far down the road personally that the city currently suffers, there are things that should have been attended to in his first term that still havent gotten the attention they not deserve but need, we hear way too much about paved streets and nay aug, half the streets still need paving and nay aug is consistently empty........

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First and foremost, Chris Doherty is a politician.  He is no worse than others, better than most.  Has he made mistakes?  Sure...he spends money like a drunken sailor on leave in Bangkok and he has a horrible eye for talent.  However, he has done a lot for the city and its image. 

Second, do tell us what Gary had to say Hammer. 

Finally, while I think that the Mayor's run for governor is a huge mistake (on several levels), there is NO WAY IN HELL I'D EVER vote for Gary DiBileo.    Why?  Four good reasons:


1. I will never forget Gary's waffling on the decision to build Scranton High School.  If ever there was a time for political courage, that was it...and Gary FAILED MISERABLY.  That one decision says a lot about the man.

2. Gary ran Konsil meetings like they were an encounter group at the Scranton Counseling Center.


3. Gary never met a group he couldn't try and pander to.  What's more, he's not even good at it.  Mayor Doherty has his own version of glad-handing, but at least he manages to pull it off with some skill.

4. Gary simply doesn't speak well.  He has a grating Scranton accent and he sounds unsure of himself.  Whenever he speaks, it's as if you are listening to someone at a softball awards ceremony, not the chief executive of a city.


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I think the hammer and carpathia are one and the same person because their posts are written the same way with maybe a comma here or there and if gary wants some comments or opinions maybe he should make an appearance instead of using some illiterate from an anonymous message board as a mouthpiece

maybe the carpathia persona should drive up and down some streets to see that they indeed need some paving and talk to some of the people who live around nay aug to see just how empty nay aug is and all the junk and crap they have to clean out of their yards once the pools open til the day they close

Now that I've gotten that out of my system ... I'd like to give Chris Doherty a boot in the arse for stringing us along these past few years, all the while masking his aspirations to leave us in the dust as he heads off to greener pastures. No, I won't be voting Dibileo any time soon, but Doherty's got me pissed.



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I personally would like to keep Chris Doherty right here in Scranton, however I never hold ones aspirations against them.

I will not be voting for Gary DiBileo for the same reasons that Ag has stated above.

I beg to differ that Nay Aug is consistantly empty ... I go there often on the weekends and I must say that there are many people milling around ... there are children playing on the playground ... there are people walking the Davis Trail ... there are people crossing the bridge to nowhere and there are people in the treehouse ... there are people all over Nay Aug ... so I beg to differ with Carpathia ... Nay Aug is being utilized by the people of Scranton ... there are children everywhere up there ... when was the last time you went to Nay Aug? I go just about every weekend unless it's raining.

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I think that the voters knew exactly what they were doing in the primary, and will aim for the same result in the general election.  Then the fun starts as things start veering in unexpected directions.

Chris Doherty is an ambitious politician with not much of a record on which to run.  Was he a bad mayor?  Not really.  Could he have done more or been more fiscally responsible?  Sure.  I'm less offended by the mayor running for (lieutenant) governor than I am by the commissioner running for Congress.  At least the mayor completed a few terms and brought about some change.

Gary DiBileo is a nice guy whose political tank is rapidly approaching "E".

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lets get a couple things straight.know it all! myself and carpathia are not one in the same lol because people use commas people are one in the same get a grip please!I am also not a mouth piece for Gary I dont believe hes is bright enough or has a strong enough of a backbone to run this city,he also claims how good of a mayor he would but couldnt tell me how he would change things he didnt have much to say about the future.As for illiterate His girl thats funny coming from anynomous messager board if you would like to know who I am just ask no secrets to hide here! Back to Chris he made promises to alot of people I know which includes me that he never backed up and every time myself or the people I know asked him about these promises well guess ,excuse after excuse story after story,he would change the stories ending but you get it.I actually believe he has not a shot in hell as winning for  Gov.It took Casey 3 times .At least His girl I agree he has me so pissed off I cant stand too look at him in fear of giving him a slap I know Ag he does have a bad eye for talent real bad eye but the city does look better and should share some of those women from Bangkok. He has this election in the bag,but will he leave us holding the bag as his run for gov or fix all the broken promises he has made.I am the type dont make promises you cant keep!I know for one thing Chris has pissesd quite a few people off this time around and he mentioned he didnt make good on those at the waldorf on Monday I was told.





















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wow 2 people share something close to the same opinion, and theyre lumped together? what a joke, personally im not a fan of gary dibileo so wrong again, and really using an anonymous name on a website?um should i believe your name is Ms. His Girl Thursday?
anyway yes during peak summer monthe june til late august the park is busy and at about 5 pm its empty again just like downtown. I dont want any hes not for the kids nonsense thrown at me so dont bother, yes the treehouse was a good thing but when your the MAYOR of a city you need to worry mostly about that communitys finances and ours have been awful for some time, not necessarily all Mr.Dohertys fault but he has to take alot of the blame, most KOZS have been a disaster and chris backed almost all of them, really? anyone out there think the roads are in good shape? because i doubt it. the fact is we are financially distressed and cant be blindsided by something that merely looks good! would you reach for puppies to make your day better if your house was robbed because we dont have a big enough police force? would ice cream make your day better, if your home was on fire and the fire dept were to thin to respond properly? so should sunshine and kids at play make it all better when our first responders havent had a new contract in close to 8 years?

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I don't recall saying he was not for the kids in my post Carpathia ... And right now I am about to have what I call a Pilchesky moment ... here goes ... I will throw around any opinion I want as I started this site just for that purpose .... to throw around my opinions ... so please do not begin to tell me what I can post.... you don't like it then don't read my posts!

I asked when the last time you went to the park was ... you didn't answer ... ok you don't want to and I don't really care. I go every weekend unless it's raining. There are people there ... they are using the trail, tree house, playground, and the bridge to nowhere ... it's fact. You are the one who stated that there is never anyone there. And it is more than the summer months ... so I beg to differ with you ... but just like me you are entitled to your opinion ... hey maybe I am imagining those people that are up there walking their dogs and having family time with their children. Maybe it was just my imagination that the last time I was there was a family sitting on a blanket by the pond ... children running around in the grass tumbling and playing ... or maybe I really didn't see the young men throwing around the football in the area directly across from the CMC ... I guess I have a very overactive imagination because I don't really want to be the only person walking around the park.

And here is an opinion that you probably don't want but I'm going to put it out there anyway ... if this mayor did what you say and only focused on the finances .. then he would be crucified at Council meeting for neglecting the parks and letting them go to **** ... think not ... well then you aren't remembering Jim Connors who put no money into parks ... and he got slammed for it ...do roads need paving ... Yes they do .... but tell me what town you have been in locally that does not need paving done on roads???? Is there a plan in place to fix these roads there is the question ..

And as far as you and The Hammer being the same person ... I did inform Girl that you are not ... so relax ... you are new here and she does not trust anyone ... trust is earned. She has been with this site since it began ... and there have been many who came here from across the hall just to upset the place ... and we really don't like that ... so she trust nobody ... again I will say if you don't like her posts then don't read them ... it's pretty simple. But her opinions are just that ... her's ... and she is entitled to them just as I am mine and you are yours.

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I don't go up to Nay Aug very often, but every time I have been there the park was reasonably full of people.

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first i didnt mean Mr.Dibileo wasnt for the kids i was saying, i dont want anyone saying that I personally arent for the kids having a park..............nay aug like i said does have a decent crowd during peak months but outside of that its not consistently full, its just not and my problem is that when the list of the mayors achiements is rolled out nay aug is example A,B.C and D, there isnt a whole lot else to hang his hat on......your right and i believe everyone is entitled to their opinion as for "shes been here since the beginning" well things change, i dont come here to be rude as we have agreed on alot of topics, im not a complete Chris Doherty hater, but im not also going to say hes without blame for alot thats gone wrong either, his contentious relationship with the fire and police departments, probably both sides harbor some blame but at the end of the day its his job to get it done.............

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In my youth I spent many a day at Nay Aug Park.  I remember the Sundays when the park was so packed with souped up cars, the drive around it took 30 minutes.  I see a huge improvement from the days of "Panic in Needle Park" to where we are the park is now.  But enough of the trip down memory lane. 

Chris Doherty could have made huge changes in the City of Scranton.  He had charisma, a vision, and the support of big money all over the State.  I understand he is a politician, but he could have thrown the taxpayers a bone occasionally.

Most of his projects (sans the park) where parking garages. Ugh.  The creation of 6 thousand jobs (and I challenge anyone to prove that number), if they existed at all, came only as temporary, construction jobs, not family sustaining careers that would attract people to relocate here.  The wage tax is still oppressive at 3.4%.  Property taxes have been raised.  There is labor strife that appears never ending.  The director of PEL even admitted Scranton is worse off now than when they became distressed in 1992.  I can't see Doherty appealing to anyone outside the big money players he panders to in Lackawanna County.

Doherty's first term was courtesy of the ever- in- need- of- a- spine- donor, Jimmy Connors.  A jellyfish had more vertabrae, and when people recognized that fact, Doherty breezed into office.  The 2nd term had a bit of a challenge from Dibileo, but many ordinary citizens were comfortable enough with the improvements at Nay Aug Park, and the KOZ buoyed downtown to afford Doherty four more years. 

After 8 years of King Chris, and I use that term in a most affectionate way, I see a bloated staff full of unqualified political hacks and payback jobs, a huge debt from borrowing, an increasing amount of vacant buildings in "downtown", at least two unhappy labor forces, increasing crime, (hey, just read the paper) and zero job creation except for inside the confines of city hall.

I really think Doherty would have lost the primary election, if there had been an opponent running against him. (Dibileo doesn't count...lets be honest)  Is there anyone who is actually surprised Doherty has aspirations outside the glow of the Electric City sign?  The only question I have, is why his campaign manager allowed the announcement before the general election.  Talk about rubbing people's noses in it.  Had the Council queen of condescension, Janet Evans, chosen to toss her Miss Clairol stained chapeaux into the mix, I believe a different outcome would be at hand.  The horde of psychophants who take her every word as Gospel would surely have at least made the General election interesting.

Sigh.  So now the citizenry of Scranton sail upon a ship floundering in high seas, while the Captain casts his line in hopes of landing the big one in Harrisburg.  Thank God for "The Office", or I'd really be worried about the rest of the nations' perception of this old coal town.   LOL!     
      


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Note to all: The mispelled " psychophants" should have actually been SYCOPHANTS.  Perhaps I was considering using the word "Psychotic", and got caught up in the moment.

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I believe balko hit the nail on the 6 thousand jobs,no way maybe a 100 or so for his cronies.A few with the sewer authority a few with the parking authority.Some of the jobs he talks about may be the union jobs that constructed the down town area but they are here and gone with in the year ,you can not count them as  permanent  positions.I would love to see all the real jobs he has created and maybe some of the people qualified to fill those ositions.As for the park I still walk it with my 5 year old and he loves it.I have spent tons of time there as a child and believe it is money well spent,thats only my opinion.How about the koz we who live or have lived in the city get penalized for living here and the people who build get a free ride that doesnt go over to well with me.Throw us a bone dont slide it in  haha! And His girl relax not every one is from across the hall I use to be a very big Doherty supporter   USE to be until all his lies ,broken promises I believe he thinks every one is a fool and if you dont want to give him money or cash someone else will and the cycle will go on. Its a shame but its the way it is.

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Wow, imagine getting lambasted for having an opinion AND the ability to use proper punctuation!!

The bank owns my house and the other bank owns my car, so my opinions are the only thing I can truly call my own. I don't know Gary Dibileo well enough as a person or as a businessman to form any kind of opinion. However, I don't like him as a politician and thought he was a pandering hack when he sat on Council. From this behavior, it's my opinion that he'll do no better as mayor.

And if the time comes when Council's self-appointed Finance Czar moves into those ranks, I'll be the first one at the realtor's office to sell my Scranton home and head elsewhere.

As far as Nay Aug not being used (in addition to what's been stated above)
-grade schools use the park for outings throughout the year,
-high schools use the park for weekly sporting events throughout the year,
-many organizations use the park for their functions, races and walk-a-thons,
-the annual teen triathalon,
-weddings have been held in the pavillion or elsewhere on the grounds,
-CMC holds annual functions for their PIC unit and employee functions,
-first Fridays at the museum,
-the park is innundated with classic cars on Father's Day,
-Boo At the Zoo on Halloween,
-Memorial Day celebration at the museum,
-July 4 celebration at the pools,
-various Boy Scout troops have camped there throughout the year and have offered their time and skills to clean up and build a camping area at Nay Aug,
-the Christmas Light show (from November through January),
-wasn't there a circus in the lower parking lot a time or two?,

Huh, maybe I won't sell my house. Maybe I'll save my pennies and buy a house up by the park and enjoy all the stuff that goes on up there. Just my opinion, of course ... but my opinion nonetheless.






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so his girl your kind of making my point huh? whenever you challenge the mayor on his accompishments you get a luandry list about nay aug, yet you cant give me anywhere close to that amount of success in city business, developing the kozs into money making businesses, relationships with our first responders, hiring qualified employees and those silly problems of the tax office losing millions and "computer glitches" pushing information and money a year back. By the way you go low brow on calling out grammar and thats fine but you have posted more than once on a thread titled "the many disfunctional personalities of joe pilchesky", yet, his girl, you never call to attention that "disfunctional" is actually spelled "dysfunctional" no biggie i just see you call out things that dont matter when you have no point to make, thanks for playing though.........

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I guess us illiterates have to stick together.cuz you know how peoples getz.Sometimes i try to post to quick and may not spell everything correctly but I dont think that makes me an illiterate.But when you sit high and mighty on a perch you can look down on all us dummies.

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Free tech tip to all...download and use Mozilla's Firefox browser.  It has a built in spell checker that works whenever you type anything onto any website.  I love it...it actually has the power to make me look like I can spell (okay, well I'm really not a bad speller, but still it is handy).

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I must have made a post somewhere else on the internet where I said I was perfect, because I can't find it anywhere on this board.

Sure I'll sing Nay Aug's praises because I remember what it was like thirty years ago - and I remember what it was like before Chris Doherty made all the improvements up there. Fifteen years ago, you couldn't have cooked a hot dog up there without getting harrassed by a group of hoodlums, now people are catering weddings for cripe's sake.

I have never said that I am 100% behind everything Chris Doherty does. The man's made some piss-poor choices in some of his administrators, I'll wholeheartedly agree to that. Those holes in the ground on every street corner in downtown Scranton also leave something to be desired. I have yet to see Chris Doherty walk on water and won't hold my breath until I do. Is he perfect? NO. Is he a better mayor than Connors? YES. Is he a better mayor than Dibileo could ever aspire to be? ABSOLUTELY, and in my opinion, the same goes for Evans.

Again, it's called an opinion for a reason. You've got one and you're entitled to it, just as I'm entitled to mine.

p.s. - if you don't want to be referred to as an illiterate, stop typing like one. Jeez, it's almost as if we're watching Grandma and her use of the multi-tilde (look it up, wiseguy)
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i dont recall where i ever came out as a dibileo supporter? given the choice, which i have been twice now, i voted for chris twice so you can probably drop that nonsense and all this illiterate talk which i believe is directed at me? id like to know where my spelling and grammar is so completly off base that you would choose to describe me in such a way? just be prepared to have all your posts read through before you throw stones my dear......

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One thing I have to say here, every elected official, in every form of government, brings in and hires their own administration. It seems like every year, whether it be a mayor, commissioners, reps, etc.. people are shocked to find that individuals who worked on a particular campaign or associates of, were hired by that individual. If I, or you, were elected to a position today, would you hire individuals who you knew you could trust and who worked hard for you in the past, or hire those you knew nothing about other than what is on their application? It works this way in both the public and private sector. When someone is looking for a job, in the private sector, what is the first thing they do? They ask someone they know that works at a particular organization to help them out or put in a good word. This works to both the applicant and the employers benefit. If I am an employer and I have a certain employee who has a great track record, recommend me an individual for a position, that is going to carry some weight, as that person has stuck their neck out for this applicant. Also, there has been mention of some of these hires being unqualified, well lets go back to the previous administrations, were any of those hires any more qualified than the individuals in place now? I highly doubt it, as in my opinion the employees in city hall do an outstanding job of handling their various jobs with what they have been given to work with.

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oh god why now, and sumtimes you give a big time job to a pot smoking, gf hitting person you are connected too...............complete difference, if you are that naieve dont bother speaking...........

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oh god why now, and sumtimes you give a big time job to a pot smoking, gf hitting person you are connected too...............complete difference, if you are that naieve dont bother speaking...........




 Please refrain from statements like this nobody has the right to tell others that they are not welcome to post here.

Unless the poster is out of line which the poster in question was not ... then his/her opinions are just as valid as yours.

 



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I must have made a post somewhere else on the internet where I said I was perfect, because I can't find it anywhere on this board.

Sure I'll sing Nay Aug's praises because I remember what it was like thirty years ago - and I remember what it was like before Chris Doherty made all the improvements up there. Fifteen years ago, you couldn't have cooked a hot dog up there without getting harrassed by a group of hoodlums, now people are catering weddings for cripe's sake.

I have never said that I am 100% behind everything Chris Doherty does. The man's made some piss-poor choices in some of his administrators, I'll wholeheartedly agree to that. Those holes in the ground on every street corner in downtown Scranton also leave something to be desired. I have yet to see Chris Doherty walk on water and won't hold my breath until I do. Is he perfect? NO. Is he a better mayor than Connors? YES. Is he a better mayor than Dibileo could ever aspire to be? ABSOLUTELY, and in my opinion, the same goes for Evans.

Again, it's called an opinion for a reason. You've got one and you're entitled to it, just as I'm entitled to mine.

p.s. - if you don't want to be referred to as an illiterate, stop typing like one. Jeez, it's almost as if we're watching Grandma and her use of the multi-tilde (look it up, wiseguy)
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May I please ask a question of you Girl?  What in the world do you mean by this statement.  You have been here since the beginning and here is where you belong ... I value your input as a moderator so you better not be thinking of leaving us at this point.  Hell I do believe that you are my very first member ... but I could be wrong ... I do know that you are the member that I gave complete trust to first so you better be staying put!

I feel as though I let things get out of control by taking the summer off from all of the crazy rants of the kids across the hall and this is what I come back to ... I am sorry that I did that ... I just had a lot going on and didn't want to deal with hatred this summer.

 

 



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::: ... your right and i believe everyone is entitled to their opinion as for "shes been here since the beginning" well things change ... :::

I copied that random blurb from carpathia's post on Wednesday to reiterate to these two posters that punctuation is not just an option, it is a necessity. I see 22 words. Are they to be read as three sentences? I'll admit, I'm no schoolteacher like the ever-diligent Janet Evans, and I certainly could be wrong, but I see at least 8 things wrong with that string of words. THEY'VE GOT A SET OF NEWBIE BALLS ON THEM TO GET ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE BECAUSE I REFER TO THEM AS ILLITERATE.

Every one of us intentionally use grammatical errors (you'se guys, sorta, ain't, should of, kinda, prolly) in our posts because they're funny. But every one of us can put a cohesive sentence together to get our points across, typos and all.

And I kinda miss the old girl ~~~~~ that's why I mentioned our beloved Grandma ~~

Lus, I ain't goin' no place. You're stuck with me. I just randomly picked that particular string of words as an example. Now you'll have to excuse me. I've got to rush to get to my History 101 class across the hall.

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LOL Girl don't be getting all excited or they will be calling one of them der amblanences..



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see the whole "shes been here from the beginning" well things change line is actually a response to something lousonly had said about his girl being with the website since it began, what i meant was regardless of if you trust someone that cant play a role in the way you respond when they debate in a proper manner, i dont believe at any point that i was rude or insulting, to whynow i reacted swiftly and do appologize.............his girl it doesnt take a set of anything to offer an opinion but ill take the complement, i dont get why im saddled with this "kids across the hall" just starting trouble reputation, i realize i post there under the same name, i have spoken and agreed mostly with ppl on this side, so i wish you would debate my on facts instead of going for a cheap put down, but like i said thats what ive come to expect out of you his girl, when you cant make a point you just make up some nonsense to tie me to the pilchesky/dibileo clan and somehow that makes it better.........

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When I can't make a point? 'Scuse me?

You said Doherty only cares about Nay Aug. I replied that there have been many changes there, and with the exception of the overpriced poolhouse, I agree that they're changes for the better.

You said the Nay Aug is "consistently empty". I disagreed and proceeded to expand on my opinion.

You said "downtown is empty". I beg to differ. We took a drive through the city just this evening looking for a ghoul or two. The city was PACKED. There wasn't a place to park on Adams or Washington (all the way out past Mulberry Street) , on Spruce, on Linden or on Lackawanna. There were people walking EVERYwhere. The Cultural Center looked like it had a full house and there was something going on at Lackawanna College, Lavish had a houseful, and naturally, the bars were all jumping . The art houses on Lackawanna had standing room only and people milling around outside.

You posted (and these are direct quotes from only this thread)
" id like to know where my spelling and grammar is so completly off base that you would choose to describe me in such a way? "
" I dont want any hes not for the kids nonsense thrown at me so dont bother "
" first i didnt mean Mr.Dibileo wasnt for the kids i was saying, i dont want anyone saying that I personally arent for the kids having a park "
and the one that started it all ...
" your right and i believe everyone is entitled to their opinion as for "shes been here since the beginning" well things change "

Nuff said, sunshine. You want to have a serious discussion? We would be more than happy to oblige and maybe, just maybe you can teach us a thing or two, but don't go showing up here full of PD piss and vinegar and expect to be welcomed with open arms. Lus has a strict rule that everyone is more than welcome to post here and voice opinions (whether they agree with ours or not), because she's the Grand Poohbah around here and enjoys a healthy debate once in a while. I get to sit back and laugh at the newbies because I pay her five dollars a week for the privilege.

So chill the hell out, hit that caps key once in a while and we'll get along just fine.

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Whoa. 

I usually stay in the background unless I really have a strong opinion on something, but things seem a little askew.  Recently earning the title of "member", up from the "newbie" status, I feel comfortable enough to flex my website muscles and render an opinion.  

I have no intention of trying to offend anyone, but there is some underlying hostility not usually present on this site.  Ever the peace keeping, air sign, Libra I am, (big smirk) I'd like to remind everyone the name of this website contains the words, "True freedom of speech".   I'm no scholar, nor do I claim perfect grammar or tense in my writings.  While it does make for easier reading, if the point of the message is apparent, why cry over split infinitives or dangling participles?  

I could care less if youse ain't got good English, on account a I ain't ascared a soundin like a retart to nobody.   I coulda gone to the libary but I din't cause I'm oppost to  work a couple two tree hours tamarra.  See yas later.        


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You're not offending anyone. I am not offended by what she said, I can debate with the best of them if I am so inclined ... I just have issues with being expected to sift through a haystack full of nonsense on the odd chance she pooped out a pearl of wisdom.

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