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PLEASE someone show me where the 6000 jobs came from.....
IF big IF...the Doherty admin did create 6000 jobs...then why did you have to raise taxes? you should have had a ton of money from Merchantile (sp?) tax and wage tax.
there should be no need to borrow....IF again IF 6000 more people were put on the tax roles??? RIGHT???
What a bunch of crap!!
I also like the "500 million in development"....UM it is state and federal funds there chrissy...

Again some people will say...well what will DiBileo do??  AGAIN I have no idea.. the last 8 years haven't worked!!


PLEASE SHOW ME THE 6000 jobs....

I know CHRIS doesn't read this site. however his supporters do.
I don't like being lied to.furious

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Doomers...the 6,000 jobs exist in the same mythical land where Gary DiBileo has a histroy of strong leadership skills and wouldn't be controlled by others (Todd O'Malley, Union Presidents, Konsil Loons).




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I swear if the woman who called Corbet's show today singing Gary's praises wasn't one of the secretaries that works in Todd O'Malley's office I will have to get my ears checked. Same first name same voice......lol pretending to be  Jane Q Public


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Doomers ... I don't know about the jobs ... but the 500 million in construction projects ... well that's true and even though state and federal grant money was used ... how do you think that money got here???? Someone had to come up with the projects and then someone had to apply for the money ... so yeah Chris Doherty is responsible for 500 million in construction projects. I know you don't like hearing that ... but it is true.

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I just cannot approve of funding a vast majority of these projects with government money.  I can build anything in the world if the politicians simply hand me the necessary funds.  That Connell Building thing is unbelievable.  Give me a few million.  I'll renovate a building, too.

Private enrichment should be assisted by public funding, not entirely dependent on it.

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soooooo...again I ask....where are the jobs???

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You think is is acceptable to lie to people constantly???? Gary DiBileo having "strong skills" wouldn't be a myth or lie til it was propven.....again show me the jobs.......

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You know what if you truly want to know where the jobs are pick up the phone ... make a call to the headquarters and talk to someone who may have that information at thier fingertips ... but this is the same bull**** that they went on and on about last time ...

Glenn ... I didn't say anything about approving the projects ... it's a fact that the projects were done ... that's what I said ... and federal money and state money no matter ... they were done and initiated by Chris Doherty so in fact there was 500 million in development.

Again I said I know nothing about the jobs doomers ... I can't tell you what I don't know and I'm not going to make crap up just to make you happy.

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You think is is acceptable to lie to people constantly???? Gary DiBileo having "strong skills" wouldn't be a myth or lie til it was propven (sic ) otherwise.....again show me the jobs.......


You think is is acceptable to lie to people constantly???? Chris Dorherty creating 6000 jobs wouldn't be a myth or lie til it was propven (sic) otherwise.....again show me the "strongs skills"



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you are proving that Chris DOherty is a phony....I DID pick up the phone twice I called his campaign headquarters and asked the qustion very professionally and I was hung up on twice....I also sent three emails...and NOTHING.

I sent emails to Gary DiBileo critizing hime for not stating his "PLAN" he responded with in 2 hours...........

Doherty is an arrogant arrogant selfish man who ignores the issues.........and respects no one unless they have a check book.

NOBODY to date can show me the jobs.....even the man himself....cause there is none.....PERIOD.



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How do you know if Gary Dibileo does or does not have strong skills?? Chris sure as hell doesen't....OH another question why does CHris run his buisness from Delaware??

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doomers wrote:

How do you know if Gary Dibileo does or does not have strong skills?? Chris sure as hell doesen't....OH another question why does CHris run his buisness from Delaware??



Well doomers I think we saw his leadership skills when he was the president of City Council ... he had absolutely no control ... those chambers nothing more than a three ring circus ...

and how about this little quote from his interview with the TT

:::::Mr. DiBileo said he couldn’t say how he would eliminate the deficit until he is in office and has a chance to study the budget. ::::::

 He is self employed ... he had every opportunity to march right into city hall and get himself a copy of the budget ... did he do it no ... why because he's not going to put the work in just yet ... he wants to make sure that he wins first ... he needed to formulate some sort of plan in order to win the confidence of the voters ... but he didn't do it.

I don't know why the Mayor runs his business from Deleware ... why did Bob Bolus move his down south a few years ago ... I don't know ... why does Gary DiBileo run his Real Estate Business from a Clarks Summit Office ... I don't know ...

Here's the thing Doomers ... there is a debate Monday night University of Scranton Brennon Hall 7:00 PM ... they will all be there ask them all whatever you want either before or after it is over ... hey maybe they will accept questions from the audience ... you should submit your questions to the League of Women voters ...

I am guessing that the 6000 jobs will come up in that Debate ...



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Runs his business from Delaware?

I'm thinking that it's more likely the business is incorporated in Delaware...which is a very, very common practice...but it's far less likely that the business is actually run from there.  There are legal and financial reasons why many businesses that incorporate choose to do so in Delaware. 

This whole thing sounds like yet another "lets get some nugget of truth and create a whole fiction around it" kind of deal.




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Well I think that if Doomers really wanted to know he could find out ... so if they hang up on you at Headquarters go there ... go in and be respectful when you ask and you just may learn the answers to your questions ... keyword being ... respectful.

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I stopped at Doherty's business for signs and bumper stickers, and I didn't have to drive to Delaware to do it either.


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I was respectful...I called and VERY Professionally asked the question...I ALSO sent three emails........THEY IGNORED ME PERIOD...

I called and said and I qoute""Hi I recevied a flyer from MAyor Doherty today and on the flyer it said to call camapaign HQ's... I am an undecided vote (Well I lied there) and I was wondering where the 6000 jobs were because it seems to me our area is failing when it comes to creating more jobs....However I obviously don't expect you to list 6000...but maybe you can give me 10 or the mayor can give me a list via email......RUDELY I got""look around"" CLICK. He had very professional people working for him......BUMS

This mayor loves downtown and should have his business there if he loves it som much....or for god sake at least have it in your OWN state. IF Gary becomes Mayor......he also should have his business in Scranton.

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Doomers,

When I was a kid, I once watched a movie entitled "Donald Duck in MathMagic Land", which pretty much describes, in my opinion, the 6,000 jobs claim.  Now I am absolutely sure that there is some way to come up with 6,000...it may include a lot of construction jobs...but I am sure the logic (as tragically flawed as it may be) exists.

The above though isn't something I care all that much about.  Why?  Well I'll violate one of my own personal rules and answer a question with a question:  Do you think Chris Doherty is the only politician in this area that may be somewhat "elastic" with the truth?  Of course he's not, and you damn well know it.  Again, I suspect you are pissed at the Mayor because he has hurt you or your family economically...fair enough.  But let's not pretend that Chris Doherty INVENTED the political exaggeration, because he didn't.  Hell, Janet Evans doesn't make a single big claim like Doherty does, but she makes TONS of smaller ones. 

In the end all politicians engage in positive number inflation.

Finally, what's with the "out of state business claim"?  The Doherty family business may very well be incorporated in Delaware, but so are thousands of others.  When last I checked, and as noted by Thursday, they DO have an office in Scranton.  You're making a mountain out of an ant hill.  That's like me making an issue of the DiBileo family owning a Time Share near Myrtle Beach (which I believe they do), complaining that they should just own property here.  You can criticize the Mayor all you want about his policies, but come on, this claim about his family business is really, really dumb.


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The issues from the Gary DiBileo for Mayor website:

The Issues

  • No More 25% Tax Increases
  • Back to basics in City Hall:  Hard Work and Fair Play
  • Safe Families, Secure Neighborhoods, and a Sound City
  • End Scranton's Distressed Status:  17 years are enough
  • Stop Pay to Play in City Hall:  Open Bids and Honest Government
  • Preserve Public Access Television:  Save Channel 61

    Ok so my question is this ... I see your issues ... what is your plan to make your issues become a reality. 

    Oh and channel 61 should not be one of your issues ... they are not run by the same people but it is up and running and showing the council and other meetings more often that the preivous management of channel 61 ... so what is the issue with them???

    You should not say that you will never increase taxes by 25% because you just don't know for sure that you won't do it ... and that statement could come back and bite you in the butt.  Unless you can predict the future with an absolute certainty and none of us can do that ... this is something that politicians should never say!

    I want to know why you didn't obtain a copy of the budget and begin working on formulating a plan to make your promises a reality.  You don't need to win the office to make a plan ... but damn you should make a plan in order to win the office!


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I'm sure that Gary is for motherhood and apple pie too, but that doesn't make him a good candidate to be mayor.

Also, anyone else find it contradictory that...

...on one hand he claims to want to end the "politics as usual"
...but on the other he touts his "endorsed" status????

...call me crazy, but doesn't the local party endorsement SCREAM "politics as usual", particularly in Scranton????  Hell, I think the smokey back room was invented at Joyces Cafe in Minooka (well either there or that old place that used to be on Lackawanna Avenue).

This is yet ANOTHER EXAMPLE (in a long series of examples) where Gary is being wishy-washy.  Yes, this is the same guy who supported the new high school (and voted for it) but didn't support the new (didn't attend the groundbreaking...lest he pi$$ off ole' Foam'n Fay...only supported it if HIS high school could stay open).

Chris Doherty, in spite of his many faults (including stubborness, poor eye for talent, spending like a drunken sailor on leave in Bangkok), has one redeeming quality that Gary lacks:  he has a functional spine.



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