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This will be a little long, but it's worth a read.  The whole thread is linked here.

Yes, sometimes Hardcore gets it right...very right indeed. 

The bottom line for me is that once again, Joe Pilchesky believes that he has the right to BULLY, but god forbid anyone actually FIGHT BACK.



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Date: Apr 30 10:13 PM, 2009

Spent 15 minutes of the phone with Tom Charles, who is not happy with me.

He called me.

Make no mistake about it, Charles can hang in there with any drunken sailor, perhaps a ship full of them.  Claims he's no Doherty crony, but it might not matter.

It went something like this:

He said he's "fvcking pissed that fvcking people fvcking think he's a fvcking Doherty fvcking crony, and he fvcking pays his own fvcking way in fvcking life." "I don't fvcking owe fvcking anyone fvcking anything." "And fvcking Vriginia is fvcking not my fvcking manager and I fvcking don't take fvcking money from fvcking Doherty"  

It took me less than 30 seconds to put him over the edge and get him totally out of control. It only took telling him this is not his mother's kitchen and hanging up on him. He called back like a man possessed of anger and toxic political anxiety.

For the way my demented mind thinks, if I can push him over the edge in 30 seconds, what can I do with him with 30+ days at my disposal?  Like others may have. 

Young, immature, emotional, disrepsectful, unprofessional, insulting, disingenuous and full of himself for a 42 year-old candidate.  Perfect match for Gatelli. 

Tom, get out of this race.  You're as fit to be a councilperson as Sherry is to be a mechanic.  Stick to fixing cars, something you do well.  This will get uglier as the clock ticks, that's a promise.  There's a lot on the line here.  Walk away.

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Date: Apr 30 10:42 PM, 2009

Mr. Pilchesky,

You're a political hit-man, but a politician you are not: you do NOT deserve to be abused. Tom Charles had NO right to harass you. You should press charges. We should be calling Tom, cursing at him. As a Council candidate, he should not be trying to bully citizens.

Tom Charles is a crony blow job political whore. He's a young Judy Gatelli, butch hair cut and all. The difference is that Tom is more loyal, and he is not as self-centered.

He and Doherty are very close. He's every bit the rubberstamper Sherry is. The difference is that Charles has ego, and ego shall be his downfall.

Why is he running for Council? What does Charles want? A low interest loan? A grant?

At the garage, Charles rubs shoulders with every crony and wannabe in the County. Now, he wants to grease palms. I bet one day Doherty said, "Hey, you should run for Council and straighten those doomers out." He took him up on the offer, apparently.

P.S. Charles' brother on the police force is known to retaliate. Watch your back.

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Anti wrote: "You're a political hit-man, but a politician you are not: you do NOT deserve to be abused. Tom Charles had NO right to harass you. You should press charges. We should be calling Tom, cursing at him. As a Council candidate, he should not be trying to bully citizens."


Tom Charles didn't post Joe Pilcesky's telephone number on his website, did he? 

At least four posters stated they called Charles telephone number, and some of them have said they did it repeatedly.  One poster twice provided a link to send Charles text messages.   

If you read the flyer, you can see Chrales hand wrote the telephone number with an invitation to Mr. Pilchesky that says,  "Joe, give me a call with any questions you might have." 

It didn't say anything about sharing the phone number to anyone else. 

Who do you think is doing the harassing here?

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The doomers (heh) must think just because joe used the "quote marks" that is exactly what was said. Maybe in his own mind, sure.

On a different note, that post may not actually spell out the words, but the intended language offends me. I think I'll head over to dd and report him ,

Oh, and I'll have a Tom Charles sign in my yard by end of business today !

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Credit or Hipocrate ?

Politics is good if its working for him, but Politics is corrupt if its for anone else !!!!!!!!

Yeah he is terrific.

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Like a lot of city employees...Nancy Krake & Dave Gervasi come to mind...Hardcore's over-riding issue is his own wallet.  Doherty hurt him economically in the sense that before this administration, he & his crew could basically call the shots, but now they can't .  As a result I can understand why he (and Nancy K, Dave G.) is upset.  Hell, who wouldn't be?  Doherty ruined a good thing for them.

What's different though is that Hardcore seems to have the ability to see beyond his own anger every once and a while.  That doesn't make him a hero...but it does make him better than most over there though, which is the point of this post.

Oh, I don't even include "officer" Nelson in the list above.  I hate to say it, but apparently the good "officer" is SO blinded by his own wallet that he actually believes that DD is a valid source for news. 

Note to "officer" Nelson...if DD were a valid source of news, then wouldn't Chris Doherty be working in Harrisburg at the moment?

-- Edited by Agamemnon on Saturday 2nd of May 2009 06:45:21 AM

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I agree, Hardcore got it right. Pilchesky posting the man's phone number was as good as expecting his followers to call up and harass the man.

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I agree with that statement ... Joe knew exactly what he was doing! He accomplished his goal ... he has done the same thing in the past to others.

Just like when he puts up someone's address ...he knows that his little cult followers are going to start driving by and going through the garbage ... peeking into the windows ... he knows what is going to happen ... and he loves it ... Just my opinion!

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Hardcores answer to the Thread:  Judy courting the Jewish vote with her Pittston Avenue Nazi Comment...

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Just when I think this site can't go any lower with prejudicial comments, I am left amazed again.


I don't know why this would amaze you Hardcore ... it's the norm for the kids across the hall ... are you finally opening your eyes and seeing them for the thugs and bullies that they really are ...

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What a bunch of stupid and ignorant people. DO YOU HEAR ME??? I SAID STUPID AND IGNORANT !!!! About ten years ago, I'll bet every frikking one of them laughed like a damned lunatic as they watched the Seinfeld episode about the Soup Nazi.

Which one of us hasn't used that term to describe someone who is steadfast and tenacious about a situation.

Is pilcheski the 'free speech nazi"?
Is grandma "the etiquette nazi"?
Is ray lyman "the amalance nazi"?

Is the plural of ignoramus, "ignorami"? Because there's a $hitload of them over there

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Another one Hardcore has gotten right...



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Mcgoof wrote: "Hey Sudden Impact go back to being jealous of them state troopers now."

What the F##K does any of that have to do with XXXX XXXXXXX? [name removed by Agamemnon]

You constantly post things simply for the sake of causing discord, that have zero to do with the topic.  You are a sneaky little twit who hides behind the safety of a  keyboard, feeling somehow powerful by hurling lame insults in an attempt to sooth your own troubled inferiority complex.

You don't have a fraction of the testosterone necessary to do the job I or any other police officer does, except perhaps if they bring back the police matron position.  

I could easily continue to mind f##k you from now on, until you eventually took your own miserable life.  But I'm not going to.  I'll simply leave you alone to live out your pitiful, piece of sh!t existence.  What could be worse than that?

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I think that Hardcore is beginning to really see DD and it's loyal posters for what they really are ... and it's not easy when you realize that something that you have dedicated yourself to is the exact opposite of what you thought it was.

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Another one where Hardcore gets it right.  I hi-lited the most telling part in red.  Note that not all of us listen to that "false Messiah with the big promises" known as Joe Pilchesky.


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...."However, maybe some people weren't allowed to vote in the primary election like my husband and me because we are not affiliated with a political party."

Okay, aside from you two and the rather small minority not allowed to vote in the primary, the rest of those who did not vote, and probably many who did vote are like roaches.  The term "Sheep" is too endearing.

A large percentage of Scrantonians are small minded.  Scranton is their world.   I'd wager half the people who live in this city have never even left the state in their lives.

There is a pervasive attitude in Scranton that much of what goes in city govenment is not taxpayers' business.  If people truly paid attention to what was going on, Doherty would have been run out of town on a rail, with Dibileo right behind him.  They don't pay attention because "roaches" or "sheep" if you prefer, just keep their heads down and keep quiet.

In Vaudeville days, Scranton was a boomtown, and a big stop on the circuit.  There was a saying among the acts that "if you can make it in Scranton, you can make it anywhere."  That's because this area was always critical of success and talent in any fashion. 
We still are.

No selfless leader will ever emerge as a savior, because we won't allow one to.  We will always listen to the false messiah with the big promises.  And sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but Joe Pilchesky may be ballsy, but he's in this for himself, too.

Scranton is still in those Vaudeville days.  We will never move forward because of the "me first", thinking of most politicians who have their hand out anytime a new business talks about relocating here.   

PT Barnum was right.  Except in Scranton, you can fool most of the people all of the time.  Will the last person in town please turn out the lights........


-- Edited by Agamemnon on Sunday 24th of May 2009 12:30:24 PM

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Hardcore makes some very good points here, but I think one of his underlying assumptions is pretty far off base...namely the assumption that DD exists as a forum to improve local government.  That isn't why DD exists...it was created under false pretenses (the whole "ramp for dying father" thing that was debunked here) as a means for an aging man who, in the absence of  being able to physically intimidate anyone anymore, has to resort to the equivalent of cyber-bullying as a weak substitute.

Gossip/Slander site?  When was it anything other than that?  AT BEST DD is a slander/gossip site that every once in a while may actually have some real news on it.



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Joe Pilchesky wrote:

Exactly. Silence is confession. Otherwise, where's the lawsuit. Here's a sue-happy mayor who has used the courts like a baby uses a bottle.

C'mon, mayor.  Let's get this started.


Mr. Pilchesky,

Silence is not a confession.  The problem for Doherty is any response will: (A) acknowledge he knows this website exists; and (B) will be perceived as Doherty trying to coverup.

Perception is reality.  Doherty is playing it smart by keeping it cool.  I'm sure he doesn't want a huge non-issue becoming an issue before the general election. 

There are a few inconsistencies in this story.  If I had to guess, I'd say it was ficticious, and aimed at getting Doherty to sue you so you can pull the same interogattory crap on him you did on Gatelli. Even losing a lawsuit would give you joy, just to drag Doherty through the mud on the journey.

Take a lesson from Kenneth Starr's witch hunt against Clinton.  Nobody really cares if a politician has an affair.  If the story were true, it wouldn't hurt Doherty.  Only denying it took place will.

My final comment...I've commented before, ad nauseum, that this website has good information and some good dialogue that can't be found elsewhere.  Why do you allow (and even encourage) it to become a gossip/slander site?  It demeans everyone who posts here, and lowers the credibilty of any accurate information.     

Not that it counts, but my vote is to have this thread removed.

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He started that thread ... so I'm guessing he does not agree with Hardcore on this ... I never saw any good information on that site ... or possibly I was so blinded by all of the bad that I could never really find the good.

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Hardcore might be right sometimes, but I find him/her somewhat hypocritical.  When Pilchesky is championing the causes of the unions, hardcore is singing praises to the website. 

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Way to go Hardcore ... it seems that you get it right more and more often these days.  It's not easy when you wake up and see Pilchesky for what he really is ... I give you credit for standing for what is right.

From the thread:
Political conflict III: Will Bill Courtright resign? Make a deal? Will it undermine the potential for a supermajority?


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....." Now, I'm only thinking out loud here, so there's no need to hit the panic button, but what if, just what if, I got a list (which I already have) of all those wonderfully happy tax office employees and one by one, started digging into who they are. You know, naming them and digging up all I can find out about them, and maybe even their families. It's that, "Wanted, anything and everything about so and so" thing. See Sara Hailstone. Washing private political laundry. It's a huge favorite here.
We have some Jim Dandy researchers here. God damn, they find out everything there is to know about anyone wherever it's hiding. Sometimes in the same day. "................."Fvck around with the supermajority potential and I'll bring that tax office front and center. Employee by employee, I'll name every name, every family/friend connection and every single scandalous thing I can find using the 20 researchers I have at my disposal on this site. It may even expose why that tax office failed so badly. If the supermajority goes down, that entire tax office, you and Kevin Murphy will go down with it. I promise that from the bottom of my vicious poison pen. "

I'm curious.  Who was this meant to intimidate?  John Q. Tax office worker who makes about $20,000 a year?  Or is it Bill Courtright because you think he won't do your bidding?  

There was a time when I thought you were a political activist who wanted to help expose corruption and help Scranton along the way.  I respected that.   But you are making it more apparent everyday that this is only about your vendetta against Doherty....and maybe more about your self righteous belief in yourself. 

Do you even care at all who you hurt to get to your ultimate goal?   Where did your ideals become so compromised that you think the end......whatever the hell that may be.......justifies the means?  (The means being the lives of people you try to destroy along the way.)

I have always had the respect to call you Mr. Pilchesky, because I have never met you.  I'll drop the formalities for once.  

Look Joe, a person this obsessed with hate eventually becomes consumed by it.  The charachter in your avatar had honor.  Quite simply, you have become nothing more than a bully.  

What is your honor worth?

-- Edited by LusOnlyVoice on Friday 29th of May 2009 04:41:28 AM

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It's about 6:30am on Friday morning and Pilchesky hasn't responded to Hardcore's post.   Note the time, because I am going to predict that the response (from the "Joe" account at DD or one of his many alter-egos) will include the following:

  • This is "war" and there are always casualties
  • Any damage done is Mr Courtright's fault, not Joe's
  • You don't bring a knife to a gun fight
  • If Mr Courtright wants to play in the "blood sport" of Scranton Politics, then he has to be prepared to the consequences
  • Tax office employees are cronies who got their jobs from inside connections
  • The whole office is corrupt and colluded to hide millions

Mark my words & note the time I wrote this.

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Okay, I had to get previously posting out as soon as possible.  I'm telling you, Joe Pilchesky is as predictable as they come.  This is what happens when you allow your ego to rule your actions.

Anyway, yes I agree that Hardcore got it right again.  It is interesting that his post hits some of the same themes we have...including a recent post by yours truly  that Pilchesky seems to think that the ends always justify the means.  That's not a slam or dig against Hardcore, but rather an acknowledgement that, I think, there are some universal truths about Joe Pilchesky that are arising.

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