Gary DiBileo & The Issues

The Finance Issue -
It's hard to argue thatGary will "fix" city finances (with a budget in the tens of millions) whenhe couldn't manage his own campaign finances (leaving a debt of over $100 years after the last election). I think that Gary also has a record as a concilman that he will have to explain. How many times did he vote to cut spending as a member of council? I really don't know the answer to that question, but I do know this: when Gary was president of council things didn't get better.

The Safety Issue -
Using union leverage to scare voters doesn't work. Why? Because it's situational for individual voters....if I've not been a victim of crime and I don't know anyone who has, why am I going to believe the gloom and doom? This will be seen as just strong-arm union supported tactics at work...playing into the image that Gary is wishy-washy and easily manipulated. What's more, while I do believe that the city's uniformed employees deserve a raise, you can't argue the fact that many city residents don't make as much as the average police or fireman. Connecting the union"fear mongering" with union ecnomic issues utilmately dilutes the desired impact.

The Loon Issue -
All Doherty needs is for a parade of Konsil Loons to come up to the podium, week after week, and make assinine comments about how it will be "when Gary is Mayor". You can consider the weekly council meetings as being extended Doherty Commercials...ones that he doens't have to pay for. It gets better if you tie Pilchesky to anything DiBileo does during the campaing. That will be brought to light here, and you damn will know that most of us who post here will talk to friends and family members about how DiBileo is in bed with a guy who...beat sleeping drunk with a tire iron...sued a Little League...wasted over $45,000 in taxpayer money on lawsuits he mostly lost...assisted in the bilking of the estate of his late father in law...etc. You think Doherty has baggage? If DiBileo cozies up to Pilchesky, he'll end up with the equivalent of a set of Louis Vuitton.

-- Edited by Agamemnon at 08:01, 2009-02-20...bu the way, the spacing problem is related to Intenret Explorer...I'm using that now and have the problem...but I never have it at home when I use Firefox.

-- Edited by Agamemnon at 08:02, 2009-02-20

Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.

LusOnlyVoice wrote:

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Ag, just the fact that Pilchesky and the kids across the hall are putting on the big push for DiBileo ... well that will hurt him ... think about it ...
You are correct that was what spurred me tonot vote for him. I also called all my family andfriends and asked them to do the same thing.

the only one who seems to go untouched by their endorsement is Janet Evans ... she seems to be able to weather that particular storm ... Well she denies knowing him lol you don't think she lies do you??

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David, if Gary has so much backing throughout the city, then he needs to immediately come out and make it very clear to the public that he does not condone any of the filth and hate Pilchesky is spewing on his website. If he does that, and runs a campaign focusing on the issues he will do a lot better in the election. Each time Fay, Sam, Ozzie... spew their ignorance from the podium, Chris Doherty receives more votes. It comes down to if you sleep with dogs, you get fleas and Fay, Ozzie, Joe P and Sam are covered in fleas.

On a side note, I love election time at DD. All Headlines at DD have the typical words used in the Old Batman TV show fight scenes, with bubble letters ZAP, SLAM, POW, THUMP.

I guess time will tell where Gary is concerned, however, I think what you are missing in my point is this ... If I go into Gary's headquarters and the only people I see working are the Les Spindlers and Fay Franus's of this world ... well I can tell you straight out that I would turn on my heels and head straight to Doherty Headquarters. But hey that's just me. He surrounded himself with a bunch of nuts last time ... and I don't see anything that says that is going to change.

I do not believe that he has a strong enough personality to take down Chris Doherty, Gary does not have the killer instinct and he is not a strong campaigner ... I don't know if he ever will have that go get em attitude but like I said time will tell.

Bill Courtright for tax collector ... I am not opposed to that ... but tell me why it is you say the things you write about Marilyn Vitali ... I am curious to know ... I think she will fight for the position and I don't know if it will be a cake walk as you are predicting for Courtright or any of the candidates running for any office ...

I at the present moment am a Doherty supporter I think we all know that ... and it would take some real damning information ... and proof thereof to get me to change.

I have been reading on DD of this so called corruption for years ... but who is it that is spewing this ... the most corrupt man in the city that's who ... Joe Pilchesky ... and that is my opinion. But show me proof of all of the allegations that have been made ... nobody has done that to date ... everyone says that Doherty and the Council Three should be jailed ... show me proof of what they have done ... otherwise it's all just gossip ... and dirty politics.

Since your wife is running against these people she should have proof of the allegations that not only the council speakers make ... but of the allegations that she herself has made from the Dias over the years ... I'm sure that if there were proof she would have used it by now and we would not have to be worrying who Chris Doherty's opposition would be ... he would not be in office.

I am a person who will not blindly follow ... or believe what anyone tells me ... I need proof ... you don't have any so why should I believe?

I think the election could be close...if Gary:

1. Actually works hard


2. Grows a spine and actually takes hard stands on issues

#1 is a possibility he really does have different people working with him, #2 goes against his nature. Lus hit the nail on the head...Gary has a history of working hard to be non-offensive. Now I'm not suggesting that the guy turn hard-nosed, but let's face it: he's so soft-spoken the you get the impression he'd cry if someone actually yelled at him.

In the end, it's wishful thinking to believe that he'll win, unless Doherty really screws something up during the campaign. There is a core of voters in this city that will vote for Doherty for the next ten elections if he chooses to run...he could be a northern version of Stephen Reed if he wants it. People don't like change, especially if the percetpion (never mind the reality) is that things are okay. I don't count myself in that block...but if the competition consists of a Pilchesky endorsed Gary DiBileo, Doherty has my vote.

I will never, ever forgive or forget DiBileo's "conditional" support of the new Scranton High School. That was Gary at his absolute worst....with an over-crowded (which David's wife can testify to) Scranton HS and an under-crowded West HS to prove it.

Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.

From what I understand Gary hired a company to do a survey of voters and he did 35 percent better than he did four years ago. This mayor has spent more money than any other mayor in Scranton's history. He gets rid of union employees offers them double pensions which the tax payers are responsible for the cost. Then he hires more management people at very high salaries. as long as gary does not associate himself with Joe Pilchesky he will do fine. The people voted for the recovery plan in 2002 only because they were told they would get a tax hike. They did get one any way of 25 percent. I think Gary has a good chance if he sticks to the Issues runs a clean campaign and saves the tax payers money and not only worry about the elete but all citizens.

If Gary doesn't come out early and strong that he has no affiliation with the loons next door, that he does not condone, and strongly objects to their tactics and actions he willcontinue to beassociated with them. I have associated him with them and I have seen nothing to change my mind thus far.

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I wonder if the Univercity of Notre Dame will like the use of their Logo for the shirts without paying any royalities. Watch how fast they pull them off the sales pitch list once ND has been sent a copy.

I've always liked Chris D. Don't like his policies
He is no Steve Reed.
He can't lose this election because there will be no Lt. Gov in his future.

Gary's poll was 44% higher.
He does not do the DD posting.

School is a joke. Yes that plaque is quite funny with those names on it.

I hate to be the bearer of good news but the STARS are lined up people.
 
Dibileo 50/50

Courtright  80/20 wins

Joyce  65/35 wins

Rogan 70/30 wins

Evans 100% landslide win
Can you tell how confident I am?  Just my humble opinion, although I haven't missed a pick in years.

Well how the hell hard could it be to find out if there has been an official poll and get the results??

I would think all we need to do is ask for it right?

In none of the rants I've seen regarding polls no one has produced information that says...

...who conducted the poll
...who was polled (D vs R, likely vs all, etc.)
...what the sample size was
...when specifically the poll was conducted

For all we know, the DiBileo poll was conducted between likely Italian Voters in West Scranton that have Nationwide as their life insurance carrier.

So...I say unless someone can provide some shred of evidence to substantiate the validity of a partiular poll, the resulting "information" is no better than water-cooler gossip or urban legends.

Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.

also this is a primary race....doherty doesn't have time to lie to people like last time....remember he was beaten in the primary and had months to make shi* up...doesn't have the time.....he is currently at his lowest point...people are done wiith two term incumbents, however ALOT of powerful people in this city lose if he lose's......Dibielo 52-48. I can't wait to see him spend almost a million and lose it all......ahhhh

doomers wrote:

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......people are done wiith two term incumbents,.....

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I can't argue that point. I think the "anti-incumbent" sentiment is very strong, not only locally, but at the state and federal level.  I have absolutlely no idea how the "throw out the bums"attitude is going to effect the race.   ( You paying attention Davey-boy? Your two term wife could be considered a bum in that senario) I think at this point anything could happen in the spring.

 

Well I do not think you will ever see that happen.  Gary has a very hard time taking a stand on anything ...period.    It is not in his nature to be confrontational or definitive.  Nice guy but no back bone.  I don't see it happening.