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Ok so is this the most ridiculous topic yet at DD????Are they finally running out of things to bitch about????
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Ron McKay - Court Administrator to me: Stop giving secretaries candy, it's unethical
I kid you not. Happened today while I was in the Court Administrator's Office regarding some petitions. He looked at me so seriously and said, "Can you do me a favor and do not continue to bring candy into the office for the help?"

"This is coming from the top", he said. "It's unethical."

Twice over the last three and one-half years I brought a few bags of assorted candy for the office staff because they often had a little bowl out front and I'd help myself to a piece of choclate before going in to be screwed over by one of the judges. I was simply contributingto a bowl I helped empty. Nothing more.

Apparently, that's unethical, but I don't see how. I'm not a public official and none of the women in that office can provide me with anything more than scheduling information or directme to where motion court is being held.

Now, I agreed to stop bringing in candy. After all, Ron is the big cheese down there. He did ask nicely. But, then it started to bug me that this guy is dictating how I spend my money and what I do with the candy I buy with it.

The commissioners can't say "THANK YOU" for stopping the rampant theft at the Mine Tour, but they can send over a message like that? Fvcked up, that's if Ron is telling me the truth
Go figure the court administrator telling a regular at the courthouse that it is no proper to bring chocolates to the staff ... it is unethical in a way ... these are the people who no doubt are giving out the assignments to particular judges ... who are giving court dates ... and now you have Joe Pilchesky coming in and plying them with chocolates ... I could see how the court administrator would see this as being unethical ... it's simply against the rules ... and more than likely they are afraid that good old Joe will come back on them with a lawsuit down the road.
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I don't know about you Joe--but I'd be at Gertrude Hawks today getting candy for that office--you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned who is he to dictate to me how to spend my money--There is nothing wrong with what you did--he made YOU feel YOU were wrong--when in actuality HE was the one who was wrong--I've often taken a piece of candy from the same place-- It was a kind gesture--one YOU should keep up-- who is he to tell you-- Joe-- there is a point here to be corrected-- you allow him to stop you--another person gets away with controlling us-- what time do you want me to pick you up-- we can go to Nibbles and Bits on Blakely Street-- or gerties-- --which one?
But it boggles my mind that Joe just can't accept that this is against the rules ... and the kid's across the hall are playing to him ... egging him on ... how about this ... before you bring these chocolates to the women working in this office ... think about the trouble you may be getting them in if you bring them the candy ...or is it really all about you ...
In life there are rules ... although none of you seem to want to adhere to them ... youall just want to keep on doing what you want to do ... regardless of the consequences others will face because of what you do.
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Date: Nov 8 10:15 AM, 2008

Like a sliver from pressure treated wood, this is starting to fester now. Small issue, I know, but I'm getting pissed by the minute over it. It's just the principle of it that as a private citizen this guy wants to instruct me on public relations with municipal employees. So, the employees benefitted from a bag or two of candy. And, what? Well, they benefitted a lot more when I did small things like throw corrupt thieves like Bob Cordaro and Frank Shimkus to the canvass for the cost of filing legal documents.

Ron Mckay is going to have to specifically explain, in writing, why providing candy to any county office is unethical.I'm not a vendor or public official. What's up with that? By the way, I've done that at many county and city offices.
Maybe it's the fact that you are a serial plaintiff ... that could be why you cannot do that ... you may not be a vendor but you are someone who will benefit from being on the good side of the people working within this office ... so it is highly unethical for you to give them a gift of any kind as you seem to do business in this office on a daily basis.
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peewee wrote:

Public building, Maybe tainted food passed from person too person. The Schu/county courthouse found that out two weeks ago. It is easy to send and give. Why get worked up. Their are bigger fish too fry. We got Shimkus. Who's next?weirdface



We can fry small fish along the way.

Who is Ron McKay?

Where did he come from?

How did he get appointed to that very critical position in the first place?

Where did he work in government before?

Who's next? Who else? Chris Doherty. With Kenny Smith in closetow.
And so here it comes ... without coming right out and asking the usual question ... now they want to know everything about this poor guy who is guilty of nothing more than doing his job and making sure that there is no question of impropriety in his office ... well good luck to Mr. McCay ... dealing with these people he is going to need it ... I have visions of chocolate deliveries to this office being made several times a day ... these people will need weight watchers by the time the kids across the hall are done. Get a life people ... if this is your biggest worry in life then I say you are damn lucky!


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I'm sure they were being nice by asking him to not bring candy anymore because its "unethical." I suspect they don't trust him and were uncomfortable accepting candy they thought could be laced with Ex-Lax, or some other product.

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The whole thread is surreal. The Franus posting takes the term "over reaction" to a new high (or is that low). You would think she was writing about someone trying to save Jews during WWII, not some dope buying candy for office workers.

Maybe, just maybe, given Pilchesky's prodigious use of the courts, they felt he might be trying to court favors with the staff by playing the role of "Mr Nice guy with the candy". Regardless, it's their office and they can set the rules...something Pilchesky is apparently incapable of understanding. This just gives him a new villian...I guess Yerke is getting boring.

-- Edited by Agamemnon at 10:02, 2008-11-09

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It never ceases to amaze me when Pilchesky doesn't realize what the average person thinks of him.

If all you knew of him was what can be found on his site, I ask, would you eat anything he gave you?

He seems shocked that most everyone's answer is no.

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I think Pilchesky should sue.

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Art Gordon wrote:

If all you knew of him was what can be found on his site, I ask, would you eat anything he gave you?

Certainly not wheaties in case anyone has forgotten that little breakfast dittie.


<wave> Hi Art! We missed you.



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Good to be back. Life got a little busy.

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I didn't forget what the Wheaties reference is ... yuck!

Anyway ... I think any gift to the court workers would be considered unethical ... I'm not 100% sure on that one ... but as Ag stated I think it could look as though he were trying to get preferential treatment via chocolate ... it's not proper and that is all they told him ... I just think with all of the so called corruption going on ... now we are supposed to be up in arms over the gifting of chocolate .... Not me ... if it were me I would explain that I had no improper intentions ... apologize and move on with my life. But hey ... that's just me!

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Now how about this post from Melissa ... is she having the mother of all over reactions or what?????


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Joe, dig on this guy. I have a friend who was in rehab with a Ron McKay. Don't know if it is the same person but if you can post some facts about his work hisotry it would help. There were a lot of poeple wurprised that he got that position, then again, many weren't surprised at all. Crony is not the word for Rom McKay. It's worse than that.



You have got to be kidding ... "dig on this guy" ... because he told Joe not to buy chocolates for his office staff?????

And tell me how the hell did this thread evolve into this ...

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Didn't somebody post that there was some politics being played in the prison? Weren't county prison employees expected to give campaign contributions?

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How do we go from chocolate to campaign contributions being expected from prison employees?????

Joe Pilchesky

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Date: Nov 9 11:45 AM, 2008

I certainly hope they never find out that I've been supporting the Lackawanna County Sheriff'sAssociation for the last 20 years with cash, $200.00 a year. Another $200.00 a year to the FOP and yet another to the Police Chief's Association. Yeah, $200 for a license plate and two little cards that do nothing but make the officer who pulled you over laugh.

No problem getting those phone calls, but heaven forbid Icontribute $2.00 worth of candy to a bunch of girls who are always doing a great job at these various county offices. The women who work atboth the Court Administrator's Office and the Prothonotary's Office are always friendly, helpful, courteous and efficient, unlike some of the elected officials they work for.


Maybe they got sick of bad chocolate ... $2.00 worth of chocolate ... that had to be bad ... hell a Hershey bar costs .99 cents for a small one these days ... so what were you buying for these hard working gals??????



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Consider this...

An anonymous poster on an interest message board says that she has a friend who was in Rehab who heard...

Yupp, just chock-full-o-credbility there!

And remember, we are talking about a bag of freak'n chocolate here.

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I've only read a portion of the posts above, but I would just like it said that I would NEVER accept a piece of candy or a drink of water from pilcheskis garden hose. Who the hell knows WHAT it might be in it.

I think the person asking him not to bring candy to their office might have had something along those lines running through his mind.

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So ... Chocolategate has taken a turn around the corner ... take a look at Anti's thoughts on what is going on ... That's right you guessed it ... this is just another way for the Evil ICN to get back at Pilchesky .... LOL ... and wait until you see Pappa Pilchesky's reply ... it makes you say to yourself ... "YEAH RIGHT ... I DON'T THINK SO!!"




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Joe,

Let's say Mr MacKay decides to sabatoge some of your cases by not scheduling them, do you have any recourse? Is there anything you can do? Let's say your case gets thrown out because of a technicality...

The Irish Catholic Network may have found a way to undermine you.... I hope not.

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Here's what they did to me in the early going, but it wasn't when MacKay was in charge: They'd schedule arguments and not notify me.The record, however,would indicate that I was notified.Then, they'd have the argument without me and the judge would naturally rule against me. Then, the judge would issue an order and I wouldn't get a copy of it, all the while the clock would be running on the opportunity to reverse the judge's decision.

The first time it happened I chalked it up for a plain old introduction to the legal system as an outsider. Welcome to Lackawanna County. I caught that in time to fix it. The second time I wasn't amused and raised a little hell. I also caught that in time to fix it.They didn't like that I knew how to fix it. The third time I notified all of the judges that as the result of the non-stop abuse in this regard, I would forthwith consider that just maybe the legal system is not the right place fora guy like meto get justice, to include references for them to review about how I've resolved controversies in the past. No paperwork invovled whatsoever.

That's when that bullsh!t stopped. The Court Administrator can definitely fvck with you. He can guide cases to certain judges, and he does it all the time. Or, he can put your hearing dates way off into the future. He's the traffic cop of what judge gets what case and when he gets it. Important job, and too important to be worrying about who's bringing candy in for the girls.


I won't even address Anti's post ... LOL ... I think that's just funny ...

But Joe do you think that anyone other than the kids across the hall believe this out and out lie ... if you threatened a judge ... you would be in a world of $hit ... no joke ... no way out of it ... and I don't care what you say ... they would not hesitate to file charges on your a$$.

And seeing as you know the importance of Mr. McKay's position ... then you should realize that bringing chocolate to his office staff is WRONG. you yourself have admitted that the "Court Administrator can FVCK with you" ... so that is a reason to not accept gifts of any type ... even Chocolate!

I can't believe that you are obsessing over this ... however I'm glad you did ... because it's given me a reason to write about your site again ... so ... in a sense ... I guess I'm grateful to you.

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Note the following sentences:

"The third time I notified all of the judges that as the result of the non-stop abuse in this regard, I would forthwith consider that just maybe the legal system is not the right place fora guy like meto get justice, to include references for them to review about how I've resolved controversies in the past. No paperwork invovled whatsoever. "

Key phrase:

"...how I've resolved constroversies in the past."

Now would the "past" Pilchesky refers to be when he would, for example, beat a sleeping drunk with a tire iron? Seems to me that Pilchesky has basically said that he's threatened the judges and then they came around.

Anyone read that one differently?

Gee, maybe he's not "controlling his impulses", as Glenn has advised him to do.

Yupp, there's your "community activist".


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In the wind... DOlts at JOey LanD have a new mantra: JOey, a community activist changing the world, one piece of chocolate at a time...

What a bunch of DOlts!!!

Not to change the subject but did you catch JOey's diatribe in the high school sports thread at JOey LanD? I think JOey was speaking about himself when he typed this one out.

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It's a nasty, cut throat, backstabbing feeder system. Parents who have aspriations for their children to be the next Mickey Mantle/Joe Montana/Michael Jordan are on the warpath early.It shows up at the entry level youth sports level. There they are, the next generation of superstar potentials being led to the field by Mom and/or Dad without the strength to carry their own equipment.

They contribute heavily to the organization and become very active. Or, they contribute heavily to someone with the necessary influence to get their kids a lot of playing time. heavy contribution does not necessarily mean cash. That playing timeis essential to early development, and stays essential. The playing time is unavailable without - PLAYERS -, so these youth organizationsneed lots of players in order that the chosen ones can even get on the field.

Every youth sports hero you read about in thepaper, bar none, got to that status at the expense ofall the otherkids who filled other positions so the hero could flaunt his/her goods.It's the feeder program. For the chancethat one kid might even get a tryout for a college,hundreds of kids were abused. Abused how, you ask? Abused byinvesting up to 10 - 12 years in various youth sports programs, high school included, until they graduated from it with nothing more than realizing they invested almost 4000 - 5000 hours of their life playing with a ball - and for nothing.

They graduate as a useless member of society. When they should have been studying, there were playing with a ball. All for the sake of getting a headline and giving Dad a vicarious moment. Worse than that they're indoctrinated into the remote addicted life of watching grown men play with a ball on TV and paying $250.00 for a licensed jersy, $3.00 for a hot dog at a park and even worse, $5.50 for a beer.

As for teacher/coaches, many of them are player brokers who know that having a standout player somehow means theyare good coaches. Most players ofstandout ability have natural athletic ability and only need reps to perfect that into standout performaces, which all starts at the entry level of youth sports. Winning coaches attract college scouts. Every coach has something every parent wants for their kid - playing time. They'll do what they have to do to get it.


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Heaven help the poor Boy Scout selling Hershey bars if pilcheski's around ... he'll get bombarded with ten dollar words and a tire iron.

Probably one of the reasons joe says he never got any of the mail sent to him is because the address isn't under the name pilcheski, as it should be.

And as far as Anti is concerned, he's just pissed because joe was dissed for offering 'regular' chocolate and not 'white' chocolate.

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"And as far as Anti is concerned, he's just pissed because joe was dissed for offering 'regular' chocolate and not 'white' chocolate."

Personally, I like my chocolate like I like my women...dark and bitter.

Sorry...I just had to say that...it was just too tempting.

Disclaimer: For the record, the poster known as Agamemnon holds no malice towards women of any race or ethnicity, nor does he discriminate on the basis of emotional state.

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:::::Every coach has something every parent wants for their kid - playing time. They'll do what they have to do to get it.:::::

Now when he says that parents will do what they have to do to get playing time for their kid ... does he mean ... they will sue the little league if they have to .... is that why Joe sued the North Scranton Little League all those years ago?????

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Ag, it's no wonder you're so popular around here.
you, you ... racist sexist misogynist ... you

dark and bitter -- you crack me UP

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