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I went over to DD ... which I have not been doing lately ... but checking out the happenings over the Gatelli case ... I stumbled onto this:

initallin
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Date: Oct 1 5:39 PM, 2008
Murphy burns midnight oil for votes

Tuesday night as I was out for a jog about eleven or so. I saw our future state rep out in a pick-up truck blocking traffic with the flashers on sticking his signs in yards without even asking the people. I drive around wedensday and I see signs have popped up everywhere. He must have been one busy little beaver. Go Kevin go but please ask before you assume people want your sign in their yard.idea


Now ... how the hell do you know that he didn't have permission? You don't ... but you throw it out there anyway ... maybe ... they called headquarters and asked for the sings ... ever think of that? No ... you aren't bright enough to figure out that people sign up in advance to get signs ... and the candidates usually go out with what is referred to as a "sign list" and place the signs during the times that they have down time ... stop and think before you post crap that you know nothing about ... and of course Pappa responds:


Joe Pilchesky

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Date: Oct 1 6:14 PM, 2008

Nice work. We need to keep an eye out for what all these guys are doing. As soon as I read your post I contacted the Murphy campaign Headquarters and inquired about the incident. I was advised that I can stop by and pick up their sign list at my convenience and match it up to where signs are. The gentleman said no signs go in any yards without permission.

Speaking for myself, if I woke up to someone's sign in my yard, it would be removed immediately for assuming I wanted it there.


And again ... go and get that sign list ... they don't want to offend people ... they want the vote ... what idiots! He offered the sign list and seeing as you have absolutely no life whatsoever ... go match it up!


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Damn, what an example of "Community Activism".

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Can you just imagine being these people ... this is proof positive that they have ABSOLUTELY NO LIFE! Joe maybe you should focus on Edith's problems ... and stop worrying about signs!

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He's getting bored with that Jethro Bodine-esque dude in Covingtown Township. I see it in my cats all the time: give them a toy and they're all over it at first, but in a few weeks they get tired of it.

As for Edith, November is coming and I'm hoping Stacy (Remember him Joe? You know, the one you called a _______.) will keep us posted. I have a feeling though that Joe would rather that this business in Erie not be made public. To that I say the following: Joe should be afforded the same levels of privacy and respect he affords others, such as Chris Doherty, Judy Gatelli, Sherry Nealon-Fanucci, etc.


-- Edited by Agamemnon at 11:04, 2008-10-04

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Another words you mean absolutely no privacy ... I agree Ag!

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Oh I hope that Kevin Murphy watches his back with this crowd ... it wasn't all that long ago that they hated this man and put vile things about him and his family up on that website ... I am sure that you could easily find the threads by searching DD's archives.
Now ... Glenn gives Joe credit for winning the seat ... take a look at this:
glenncashuric
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Date: Nov 4 9:52 PM, 2008
Joe Pilchesky Wins A State House Seat

Sure, it was for someone else, but WNEP has called the race for Kevin Murphy. Pilchesky ran the best campaign, however. A one-man takedown.

Let's see if the call holds. Seems like it will.

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Date: Nov 5 12:57 AM, 2008

I don't think Joe P has ever gotten much credit. But in this case, and in Cordaro's case, it was a job well done. Thanks, Joe, you may have actually gotten us together as a cohesive group. Let's put our sites on the next corrupt politician....March 09 can't come soon enough!!

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Date: Nov 5 1:52 AM, 2008

I hope Kevin enjoys his 720 days in Harrisburg. He's going to face one hell of a challenge in 2010.


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Date: Nov 5 2:07 AM, 2008

I am very humbled by your most generous words. This is a big day for the little guy, well, a lot of little guys with computers who took the message to work with them. 14,872 little guys joined hands on this dayand at the end of the day, a corrupt thief was scratched from the Commonwealth's payroll.

I've said this from the beginning. We only need to run with them.Their vulnerability lies in their emotional durability, which they lack. They can't count on arrogance alone to get them to the finish line, although they like to try. These days, with the Internet providing information, they can't count on favorable print in the paper, either. Frank Shimkus never got a moments rest from the day he filed those fraudulent nomination petitions. Not one day. He couldn't run with the pack, so the pack did what it does best, it devoured him.

Mercy is a weakness, and no politician will find mercy at DD.

-- Edited by Joe Pilchesky at 02:09, 2008-11-05
Can you imagine ... it's like Kevin had absolutely nothing to do with winning this seat ... and Joe Pilcheky humbled ... well maybe!


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Let's put this in perspective:

Joe Pilchesky found a wounded deer along side the road, put a bullet in it's head, and now claims to be a great hunter.

With all due respect, forget Cashuric...let's see how much credit Kevin Murphy (who I like, by the way) gives Pilchesky.

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1. Joe Pilchesky did more than put a bullet in the head of a wounded deer with this one. Occasionally you have to give the guy credit.

2. Kevin Murphy finally got on message with the one thing voters object to around here...don't take money that doesn't belong to you. No per diem ads, no Murphy election. It was still a close race.

3. Mr. Murphy will be a state representative until (a) the day he dies or (b) he gets greedy and gives up the seat in a misguided attempt for a promotion. I'm leaning toward (a).

4. Mr. Murphy shouldn't give anybody credit. He won the seat. But as I said, Pilchesky putting Frank through the wringer for an entire year certainly softened him up a bit.

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Glenn...

1. I'll make a deal with you: I'll give him credit for this one if you assign the blame to him for any number of his other "activities". Sound fair? Need any examples????

2. Agreed.

3. Agreed. Mr Murphy has "public sector" written all over him. And you know what? If he does a good job then what the hell, he can stay there until he drops. There's nothing wrong with tenure...if you are good at what you do. Just ask Joe Paterno.

4. If Murphy shouldn't give anyone credit, why then did you give credit to Pilchesky for the win? You seem to be contradicting yourself, as your exact words on DD were "Pilchesky ran the best campaign, however. A one-man takedown." I didn't take the "one-man" reference to mean Mr Murphy himself. Furthermore, you titled the DD thread "Joe Pilchesky Wins A State House Seat". So tell me then, who gets the credit, Pilchesky or Murphy?


To be blunt Glenn, I think you're cow-towing to Pilchesky on this one.


-- Edited by Agamemnon at 18:18, 2008-11-05

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1. I don't tow cows. It's only a TSX. The rear bumper would fall off.

2. I said that Murphy should not give anyone credit. He is a politician, after all. But I give most (if not all) of the credit to Pilchesky. He was relentless, and provided the perfect platform with which to make the kill.

For the sake of semantics, I will amend to "most".

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Glenn,

For the record, "cow-towing" sounded better than "ass-kissing" or "brown-nosing".

I guess it all comes down to this Glenn: Once again you're very public about heaping the praise upon Pilchesky during the 1 in 50 times he may actually do something beneficial (all be it self-serving as well), but mostly-to-entirely silent in a public forum when he's up to his other antics. Your choice sir, but in the true spirit of debate & discussion, it's definitely noticed. Do you have to bash the guy? No. But I tell you what: the next time he claims that Judy Gatelli performs oral sex in exchange for favors, maybe you can consider publicly speaking-up against that crap with half the eloquence you used in praising his role in the Murphy victory.

I'm getting this mental picture of Italy circa 1938, with you saying "Damn, ll Duce did a terrific job in getting the trains to run on time!".

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It may sound better, but I prefer the honesty route.

As for things like the Judy Gatelli lawsuit, I think they are ridiculous and a waste of time. Both sides should agree to make the whole thing go away as quickly as possible.

I don't think the "nice guy" approach works around this area. Does Pilchesky cross the line at times? Absolutely. But I'm willing to break a few eggs.

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...and your really a lawyer Glenn?????
(in response to your comment about prefering the honest route)

Anyway, my point about Judy really had nothing to do with the lawsuit(s), as that's a whole different kettle of fish.

What I was referring to is basically our standard area of disagreement: Namely that you don't call Pilchesky out in the open forum for the horrendous things (such as his on-going use of incredibly crass sexual induendo...things that I would chastise people here for if they said it about Janet Evans or Edith Pilchesky), but you do heap the praise when you feel he has earned it. As I see that I'll call you out on that, and you're of course free to deny it or ignore it.

As for "breaking a few eggs", that's not how I would describe much of Pilchesky's tactics. Harry Truman broke a few eggs when he fired Douglas MacArthur. That's not what we are talking about. For (just one) example, blaming a suicide on the Mayor...at Christmas time no less...isn't breaking eggs, it's simply evil...evil because it pins a DEATH on an innocent man...evil becuase it dredges up a horrible incident for the impacted family AT FREAK'N CHRISTMAS TIME no less. Now you may be fine with that Pilchesky doing that, or you may be able to explain it away on this forum as being the cost of doing political business in Scranton, but I think it would be different if the circumsances involved your family. Regardless, the suicide thread exists DD now (along with other, similarly horrible examples), sans public commentary from Glenn Cashuric, which makes the point I noted above.


-- Edited by Agamemnon at 17:20, 2008-11-06

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What I was referring to is basically our standard area of disagreement: Namely that you don't call Pilchesky out in the open forum for the horrendous things (such as his on-going use of incredibly crass sexual induendo...things that I would chastise people here for if they said it about Janet Evans or Edith Pilchesky), but you do heap the praise when you feel he has earned it. As I see that I'll call you out on that, and you're of course free to deny it or ignore it.

His use of sexual innuendo concerning a politician does not bother me. When someone brings up family, I have commented. Yerke, in particular.

As for "breaking a few eggs", that's not how I would describe much of Pilchesky's tactics. Harry Truman broke a few eggs when he fired Douglas MacArthur. That's not what we are talking about. For (just one) example, blaming a suicide on the Mayor...at Christmas time no less...isn't breaking eggs, it's simply evil...

Completely unnecessary. And I always tell him he has to learn to control his impulses with comments like that.

evil because it pins a DEATH on an innocent man...evil becuase it dredges up a horrible incident for the impacted family AT FREAK'N CHRISTMAS TIME no less. Now you may be fine with that Pilchesky doing that, or you may be able to explain it away on this forum as being the cost of doing political business in Scranton, but I think it would be different if the circumsances involved your family.

There was a clumsy attempt made during the primary to slime me. Although upsetting, it is the cost of doing business in Lackawanna County politics. Do you get upset? Of course. Do you swear revenge if an opportunity arises? Sure. If it were truly outrageous and well into slander territory, I would have sued. Chris has those options as well. He wisely chooses to simply move on.

Regardless, the suicide thread exists DD now (along with other, similarly horrible examples), sans public commentary from Glenn Cashuric, which makes the point I noted above.

I'm not going to specifically browbeat him over every comment he makes. I believe I have made it clear what I find unacceptable. There are no degrees.

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Fair enough, although I think you give him far too much credit and leeway.

As for him controlling his impulses, I find the concept laughable. The guy thrives on not controlling them; in fact, he cultivates the "heartless badass" reputation at just about every turn. Hence postings like this:

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...Dearest assassin, don't aim for the heart, I don't have one....



So do stay on his good side Glenn. It will probably garner you a few extra votes, should you ever choose to run for office again. I hope, however, that no one does to you what Pilchesky does to others...and I'm not talking about clumsy attempts at sliming either. Have a wife Glenn? Have children? In the world of Pilchesky both are fair game. Grandchildren (one day, perhaps)? They too could be brought up in a thread. Nobody...even the most inept public servant...should ever be subject to that.



-- Edited by Agamemnon at 20:54, 2008-11-06

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