McKenna doesn't write all the articles, sometimes it's Gib. At any rate, the article doesn't do much more than repeat the previous article. If Gilbride does plan on running for mayor, he'd be a lot better off staying off street corners with Jim Williams, or anywhere else for that matter.Williams works for both sides when the opportunity comes up. In this instance, it looks like he was used by the Doherty people to put Gilbride in a compromising situation.It's not a mystery thatWilliams got so few write-ins.Everyone knows he plays both sides against the middle.
...the Scranton Times editorials are actually written by "Gib" (a reference, I take it, to "Gibby Joe"), a PR guy who has worked for Mayor Doherty? ...School Board President Gilbride was "set up" by Mayor Doherty?
Look, I don't agree with everything written in The Scranton Times, but then again I don't look to rationalize those disagreements by surrounding them with wild fiction. How can any rational person read a posting like the above and not walk away thinking that the poster is suffering from a severe case of paranoia?
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
you know what's amazing? because one of our owners are neighbors with Doherty and because our paper in the past has endorsed Doherty, we are seen by the nuts as Doherty supporters and apologists. the fact is, many of the reporters, including myself, come from outside of Scranton and really don't have a dog in that fight. We can't be like the Puke boy and post anything without fact and they want us to report that Doherty is crooked, etc. I haven't and neither has any reporter before me found any evidence of the mayor being crooked. Really, to sum it up so i won't waste much ink on the idiots, all you have to do is look at the posts. Look at who is defended over there and look at who is persecuted. I believe you'll find those who are doing good things among the persecuted. And, again, i will say this what does Puke boy do for a living??? oh that trial is July 12 in Erie...... we don't tell him how to lose court cases, that's his job. why should we listen to him tell us how to do our jobs? we don't and wouldn't. 'nough said.
one more thing, speaking of the paper's owners.. They have never been involved in the content of the paper as far as what we report. NEVER. the overwhelming majority of the time, in fact all the time that i know of, they get their news when the general public gets theirs and that's when the paper comes out in the morning. that family has been nothing but generous to its employees and have been great people to know and chat with.
Stacy.. are you saying what I think you are saying!!??You mean the goons at DD are wrong again???ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh LOL LOLGreat show the other night nicely done many kudos J
:::::oh that trial is July 12 in Erie......::
Double check that date Stacy I think that July 12 is a Saturday. Please Please tell me the times will be covering it....please!!
-- Edited by IHavehadenoughofhaters at 15:00, 2008-04-27
The last post before the one noted above in that thread? It was on September 11th. What does this prove? Well for starters, that the goons are actively reading this site and that 'Researcher' is probably a Pilchesky.
I hate to laugh, as what was written about Stacy at DD isn't funny, but it is funny that they feel the need to dole out retribution for Stacy's comments...especially (I think) the note about the court date.
Keep blasting Stacy, as apparently you are doing something right. Oh, and I'll mark my calendar.
-- Edited by Agamemnon at 18:27, 2008-04-27
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
i stand corrected, the date is indeed monday july 14. it was originally scheduled for may but last week the pukeboy and his wife went to Erie and the date was rescheduled. Freed is the judge, who ironic a name---insert joke here--- in any event, it's nice to know that researcher thinks so much about me that researcher dug up an old thread just for me. by the way, i never met ray hultman. a guy by the name of larry garrison happened to have shared the same agent with me and ask me would i write a book about the jurors who thought michael jackson was guilty. i said i have my own book and it wouldn't be fair to bob jones, whom i ghost wrote man behind the mask with, for me to work on a similar project so soon. eventually garrison sent some passages to me and asked what i thought and i simply said they looked fine but i didn't believe those jurors were pressured to vote not guilty as they had claimed. i also thought they had made a stupid mistake because i felt they believed that acquitting michael would lead to a great book deal. dumb! finding him guilty would probably have netted them a 6 or like a 7 figure deal but they had no clue. in any event they sued garrison, the agent and initially named me in the suit, but later amended the suit taking me out of it. why did i come to scranton? the idiots over there, the haters, can't see the forest for the trees. i have lived the big city life and excelled in it. however raising a family my wife felt it was time for a change and the times called we came down and checked it out and when we found out that they were offering pretty much what i was already making and that you could by a really good house without going broke we said why not. it's just two hours from home and two hours from philly. also, in this business a lot of newspapers are cutting back big time and its all about corporate, corporate, corporate. here, whether any one likes them or not, we have a family ownership who isn't selling out to a corporation and a family that loves the business and takes good care of its employees and are not laying off. not to mention pay well. this is newspaper paradise here whether you agree with our reporting or not.
The following is attributed to Stacey Brown, defending the LIe notts..."They have never been involved in the content of the paper as far as what we report. NEVER." Maybe he should have a little talk with Dennis Draughten...He left the paper over censorship by the LIE notts.. and put it in writing !!
Not only can the tool not bring himself to mention the name of the site, but he misspells not only Brown's name, but the cartoonist Draughon's name. Every account I've seen says Draughon resigned, no reasons given. Let's see this "in writing" claim, STD, if there is one. I'm calling you and stupidity out again.
And when Joe edits the next thing that he's going to edit, including possibly your post, STD, then you can tell us all about censorship. I'm sure it will be a fascinating rant.
Well .... He answered your post ... he put up an interview with the "Progressive" which addresses censorship of the Draughon cartoon.
You must have made STD's (anyone else see the humor in the initials of this screen name) Post as he made sure to highlight each time his name is used ... although this does not particularly show that STD can spell the name it shows that the interviewer can spell the name.
But this is a great example of the DD kids peeking across the hall at us ... hmmmm ... very interesting. Not that I mind ... but I thought that the just ignored us.
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And, not suprisingly, there was NOT ONE SINGLE MENTION that he left the Times as a result of the "spiking." To the contrary. The article mentions that Draughon "took it in stride"; it implied that he knew before he drew it that it would not run; it mentions an admiration for his editor; it mentions that Draughon "didn't want to get fired." If someone was taking a stand, getting fired would not be a concern, now, would it?
All in all, the article did not come close to saying anything that STD believes it says. Furthermore, it made a very important point, relating to the paper's policy for the editorial cartoonist on staff, whether it's Cole, Draughon, Handlesman, or whomever. "(O)ur general rule is that locally produced cartoons should reflect the opinions of the editorial board. In this particular case, we felt it didn't do so."
That's not censorship at all. Nice try, STD. Got anything else, meathead?
Stacy are you jazzing up Joeyboy again?? LOL LOL you are so bold!! Oh and goon's??? Got ya again!! LOL LOL Joeyboy and the goons caught peeking again LOL LOL
Well thanks to STD (that is funny, BTW) to clearing up some of the circumstances surrounding Draughon's departure. Too bad he didn't prove his point though. If anything, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE that the cartoon described in the article was in exceptionally poor taste. It's one thing to criticize the President, but to use a drawing of fallen serviceman & women in the process isn't kosher in my book. And as Paul points out, this was not a case of The Scranton Times suddenly changing a set of rules or anything like that; if anything, their standard that cartoons should support opinions of the editorial board seems very reasonable. IN FACT, JOE PILCHESKY EMPLOYS AN EXTREME VERSION OF THIS AT DD: if you post something negative about Janet Evans, Mr Free Speech spikes it. Given a choice between the two (The Scranton Times with a well defined editorial policy or Joe "Mr Free Speech" Pilchesky and his "only I decide what can be written at DD" philosophy), I'd say that The Scranton Times is the more reasonable of the two.
One other thought: the DD folks conveniently refer to organizations like the ACLU and The Progressive, but yet I doubt that most of them actually support the causes espoused by either. It's no different than their use of cut & pasted Scranton Times articles...the claim to hate the "rag", but yet it's their #1 source of local news.
-- Edited by Agamemnon at 07:09, 2008-04-29
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
Anyone else find it ironic that Pilchesky loves to rag on about the legal troubles of others (complete with tons of details...see DeNaples thread), but yet there has been on mention of a trial date for Edith at DD? What's wrong, only others legal issues are fodder for the DD masses?
Thanks again Stacy for the update...and again you didn't have to go into any kind of detailed defense with your reply. I automatically assume what is written at DD is basically just slanderous trash, unless I see real proof the contrary.
Lus...I'm wondering what we can do to better publicize the July 14th date? Perhaps we can have a "Beginning of the End for Edith" picnic? Maybe some kind of "Soap on a Rope" counter?
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
If Electric City Television was smart they would provide coverage of Edith's Trial.We would all get to see Perry Mason Pilchesky in action instead of having to read his own description of events. He can bring all his council crazy clan out as character witnesses.I think that it would equivalent to the final Episode of Seinfeld!
Keeping with the Final Edith Seinfeld Episode Theme:
Ozzie Quinn - J Peterman Sam Patilla - Jackie Chiles Dave Gervasi - David Puddy Andy Sparaglia - Low Talker Dan Hubbard - Bubble Boy Ray Lyman - Newman
Actually a picnic sounds great ... maybe we can call the Mayor and have some trees cleared up on Hollow Ave ... you know for a temporary small park (park for a day) and we can have a celebration ... and IHave ... Honey Dipped Chicken is my very favorite ... you bring that and I will make the scalloped potato's ... who's going to bring the Margaritas ... or do we have wine left from when we were waiting for the process servers that never showed up?
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I want everyone to stop and think about one thing ... Joe Pilchesky is not a lawyer ... he's just a guy playing a lawyer on the internet. Please don't trust your legal needs to this man.
Dan Hubbard as Bubble Boy .... OMG ... tooooooooo funny!
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I want everyone to stop and think about one thing ... Joe Pilchesky is not a lawyer ... he's just a guy playing a lawyer on the internet. Please don't trust your legal needs to this man.
Feel free to come back and post something that you can actually defend, that won't be dismantled as completely false and irrelevant, and then force fed back to you, jacknut.
Here's the CARTOON in question that STD got his panties up in a bunch about. For those of us who lost loved ones over there, especially those just begining their lives in their early 20's, the cartoon does nothing to sooth our grieve and frustration at our government over this war. But this is not about our feelings, its' about censorship, and I believe that's not what the Times did when it refused to print this. I believe it had more to do to honor those fallen comrades and their families.
BTW, greeter boy how about this LITTLE DITTY by your man Draughon with regarsd to the Duke Lacrosse player scandle. Nothing like giving them the benefit of a doubt or even innocent till proven guilty. DOlt!! Also, does your Lord & Master JOey know what you're doing over here? Worse yet, using JOey LanD as your message board to us? How about sharing that PM you get from him when he tells you to stay in line - doubt we'll ever see that.
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