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I was on a trip across the hall this morning visiting with our neighbors ... and I stumbled across this post ... well it struck me ... and I had to post it here ...


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We're Hitlers and Bull Connors and Reverend Simmons quotes "Mein Kampf"

The Hitler metaphor is a huge exaggeration, and it discredits our project. There is nobody going to a gas chamber. That we're being fleeced by a bunch of crooks isn't the same as genocide, I'm sorry but it's not.

The politics in Scranton is like Tammany Hall in the late 19th century, not Germany in the 1930s and 40s. The ICN control the media, as did Hitler, as did Boss Tweed.

As for Rev. Simmons, she is attack this website for a.) Joe's use of the word Nigg-er and b.) trying to score brownie points with the County.

Personally, I don't think Simmons is all that great and wonderful. I mean, she's no Judy Gatelli, but she's no Malcom X either.



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I know that I was a bit late posting this ... but in the spirit of the holiday I didn't want to make a trip to visit the neighbors until after Christmas. What I find truly hypocritical about this post is that the kids across the hall take great exception at being compared to Hitler ... now I wouldn't think that any of them would have had a problem with this as this poster in particular has compared members of Scranton City Council and the Mayor to Hitler ... so now that someone has made this same comparison it's suddenly wrong ... If you look through our archives you can find a thread where these same refrences were made by them about others ...

I guess it all comes down to one thing, we should always treat others as we ourselves would like to be treated. If I myself would take exception to being called oh ... I don't know ... say Hitler ... I shouldn't then call anyone else Hitler.

And one last thing Grinch ... I thought that it was the philosophy of DD ... that things like being called Hitler are only words ... you know like when Joe called Stacy Brown the "N" word ... to quote the posters at DD .... "It's just another word and it falls under the freedom of speech"! So what's the big deal?

I however am and always will be offended by each of these references!

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PUKEchesky and his small, very small, band of followers continue to show how they have no life whatsoever. You have to feel pity for them in a way. But, hate begets hate over there. And, oh by the way, I guess me and so many others should be shaking in our boots over PUKEchesky's latest threats. While others, such as myself, continue to live a fulfilling and happy life, those weirdos and bottom feeders continue to, well, feed from the bottom and always will.

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I just don't and never will understand their way of thinking across the hall ... I would think that it would eat you up to be so consumed with hate.

Your best revenge for whatever they say is to live a fulfilling life ... they would like nothing more than to have the satisfaction of being able to say that they ruined your life.



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I just find it amusing that they think he or that gossip site even matters in the scheme of things.

Their "project" is nothing more than a pastime for 99% of the viewers of that site. Sure, there are a dozen or so of us here who post here to ridicule and discredit them, but really, we're not needed. He shows his pathetic irrelevance with every post, lawsuit (or empty threat of one) , and nonsensical "tough guy" promise.

He simply doesn't matter to anyone, with the possible exception of his family. That must gnaw constantly at his fragile ego, and that makes me smile.

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I just find it amusing that they think he or that gossip site even matters in the scheme of things.

Your right in the grand scheme of things what does it matter ... to us ... but to some of the people that they ridicule on a daily basis ... it seems to matter.

Their "project" is nothing more than a pastime for 99% of the viewers of that site. Again you are right ... it is a pastime ... a hobby of sorts ... as I think you have saidin the past it's likecoming upon a train wreck and not being able to pass without looking.Sure, there are a dozen or so of us here who post here to ridicule and discredit them, but really, we're not needed. I know I'm not needed to do this ... but ... the only reason that it was started was not really to ridicule him ... it was started to give back what he took from us and that was our opinions. Had he allowed us our freedom of speech and our right to our opinions we would not be here. He shows his pathetic irrelevance with every post, lawsuit (or empty threat of one) , and nonsensical "tough guy" promise.

He simply doesn't matter to anyone, with the possible exception of his family. How sad it must be to be Joe ... and if he keeps treating his family more like a loyal family pet then how much longer will he matter to them? That must gnaw constantly at his fragile ego, and that makes me smile.



I also want to put this in ... I have been reading for a long time and posted a few time on the City Data Forum ... I have recently learned that we may have caused hurt feelings to Dan Hubbard ... and for that I am truly sorry ... apparently there are some posts here that make fun of him as a flood victim and he was offended by it ... for that I am truly sorry Mr. Hubbard. Below you will see a post from the City Data Forum written by Mr. Hubbard.





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Honestly I do not think that the sites are on the same level. Yours is without question far less abrasive and certainly alot less combative. MY tone as you like about your previous posts was on point. Everytime someone from your site comes here we have problems. We have to have posts removed and posters banned for their "everything and anything" posts here on some council members. You yourself have posted links to your site and have gotten on the anti-Joe band wagon here. The last time you and I had a discussion was on the dog park. I'm sorry but I have yet to see one serious discussion about anything on your site other then DD. This city is $650,000,000 in debt in less than 6 years and they just passed a record breaking $84,500,000 budget for a DISTRESSED CITY and that is no where to be found in any thread on PD. Do you guys even care or are you just part of the sytem that is killing the city. Are you on the receiving end of the admin? Because if it doesn't upset you then you either are benefiting from it or don't live in the city, which is it? I try very hard to leave PD and DD where they are because I do not feel that this is a forum for either site. We try to run the middle ground, sure it gets heated sometimes, but we still like to keep neutral of the sites. I post under my real name and have never had anything to hide. Sure Joe wanted a reaction and sure he used that word to get Judy to react when no other would but my point is this, its Judy's job to keep the meetings together and its her job to keep it to "city business" but she was the one that let it fly in front of a high school class and the coutless other kids that do watch the meetings like mine. She brought it out on air, on camera not Joe. She made it "city business" not Joe.

Honestly I have no respect for people that ridicule flood victims and what they have to go thru. You have no idea what its like to have to go thru it and what it takes to get back to normal. I don't find it funny that we have been forgotten and neglected while the city spends soo much money on nothing. Our homes on my block have never been flooded in over a 100 years but yet I'm accused of buying a house by a river and should have known better. Over 100 years my family has been here in this neighborhood. Thats along time and alot of my neighbors have had family here just as long. This neighborhood might not be the 1700 blk of N washington but it has history and it has a community feel to it because we all have been here for soo long. Generations have raised their kids here. Like I said I have no time for PD and its 6th grade name calling and guess who crap. I also have no time for the DD crap either. If you wanted to post here then please do so, but leave the PD cheerleading and anti-DD knocking home. Like I said my only complaint is when the BS from the 2 sites ends up here.




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First, I don't recall ridiculing flood victims...I think what was ridiculed was the fact that Dan acts like an ass in City Council. Loud and obnoxious may be a valid discussion tactic in New York's Little Italy, but it shouldn't be in a public meeting. Some of us have rightly said that people who live in flood zones shouldn't be so shocked when it floods...that may sound harsh, but it has the benefit of being true.

Second, Dan tries very hard to leave DD and PD alone? He is half correct on that one...he does leave us alone because he knows that he will garner no sympathy here. However, the dozens of postings under his name and his psuedonyms at DD beg to differ about him leaving that site alone. No, Dan is very much tied to Mr Pilchesky. The word 'Svengali' comes to mind.


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One more thought...Paul is absolutely correct about us not being needed...we could never do more damage to Pilchesky than he does to himself. However I post here because...

...I enjoy the challenge (Just how many different ways can one call Anti a filthy racist swine?)
...I enjoy reading what everyone posts here...we have some very bright folks
...In some small way I think we all have an obligation to point out wrong. For example I've pointed out repeatedly that it is wrong for the Mayor not to negotiate contracts with police and firemen without a raise...but that's not nearly as wrong as DDs use of children, family tragedy, etc. as weapons to hurt people guilty of the high crime of not being liked by Joe.


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I am checking our Archives ... so far I have turned up nothing that makes fun of Mr. Hubbards situation ... if it is there I do feel very bad ... hopefully it's not there!

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I didn't mean to belittle anyone's contribution; I guess my point is that none of us here have any delusions of grandeur, or honestly believe that our site is the end-all be-all of information and social change. We here all know that changes in government come through the democratic process (i.e. voting) and not through a two-bit rumor board and lawsuit chasing lawsuit.

As for Dan Hubbard, he's a useless idiot who only knows how to cry about the same things over and over, like any of the issues he brings up are unique to the area, or the direct resut of a crooked administration. He's rude, obnoxious, and self serving. His vote doesn't count any more than ours, his overbearing opinion is just that, and he comes off as an ignorant whiny ass who didn't get his moneys worth out of his Jesuit education, because he can't write worth a damn. For such an apparently educated, well traveled and informed Renaissance man, he writes like a third grader with a head injury. It's very hard to take anyting he says seriously because of it, and hs tone at Council doesn't help his cause either. I'm suprised his neighbors allow his behavior at Council and on the internets to continue, because surely they can't appreciate the way that clown carries himself. He's just one voice. And not an very effective one at that.

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Well, I have to say I have looked and looked and cannot find one post that has made fun of his plight ...

Dan does not like it when I post on CD ... I usually only read that site ... but I had to respond to a post by SWB that made claims that we created this sit to strictly bash Pilchesky ... that was not true ... I created it to get back my voice ... and in the process of gaining back my voice a few others ... found their voices again also. That is the only reason why we are here and we have really never claimed to be anything than what we are ... people who want to respond to the crazy rants of the kids across the hall.

Mr. Hubbard you were wrong ... the posts making fun of your situation ... are not here ... oh there are posts that question why it is you stay when things are so bad in that area ... but to say they are making fun of you ... well you are wrong!

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I have spent a lot of time (tooooooo much in fact) ... over the course of the last 2 days worrying about the fact that I may have hurt the feelings of Dan Hubbard ... I have to say that I no longer really care ... even though the accusations that he made against this site were unfounded ... I still worried about it ... but after reading some of his posts at CD ... I have to say that he is all that he accuses us of being here at PD ... juvinile ... especially in his interactions with poster CHS89 .... this poster asks for him to substantiate his numbers of the rising long term debt ... and Dan becomes combative ... and dances around the subject and throws out the same numbers over and over without ever answering the post of CHS89.

Mr. Hubbard states "I also have no time for the DD crap either. If you wanted to post here then please do so, but leave the PD cheerleading and anti-DD knocking home. Like I said my only complaint is when the BS from the 2 sites ends up here."

Yet as the post below will show he condones the Posts of the DD'ers ... as he believes in the ICN .... he thinks that if you are Irish and Catholic all you need do is ask and you will be handed favors ... that tells me that he buys into the DD theroies ... and endorses them ... You Mr. Hubbard are a Hypocrite.




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Uh oh, you haven't been reading DD.com have you? You're not buying into their kooky belief that there's some kind of Irish-Catholic conspiracy to rule the world, are you?

Because I can tell you, they're wrong. I'm Irish Catholic, and have yet have any sort of political favor done for me or be handed a job because of my ethnicity.

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It's really such a simple small post ... but to me it is speaking volumes ... I posted about this here as I was told to leave my PD bull$hit out of the CD forum ... so I will not make these types of posts there ... but this is another example that Mr. Hubbard is buying what Pilchesky peddles as he is somewhat of an apprentice to the practices that Mr. Pilchesky holds near and Dear!

Sorry for the rant ant the ramble! Hell it's been a long time since I did that!

Sorry for any typo's ... but I am only human and don't have the time right now to look for them.

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One last thought ... he welcomes the DD crap as he never says a word when someone brings that site up ... it's PD that he has the real problem with as we do not share the philosophy that everyone must agree 100% in order to get along .... hmmmmm ... who are the juvineles ... DD and Dan ... or we here at PD who welcome you to share your opinions ... I wonder!

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this poster asks for him to substantiate his numbers of the rising long term debt ... and Dan becomes combative ... and dances around the subject and throws out the same numbers over and over without ever answering the post of CHS89.
He's probably bust an eyeball if someone on Council ever sidestepped and acted so dismissively towards him the way he's acting in his posts.


He's a nobody.



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Lus,

So, Danny is the Lord of the CD forum, is he? Add that to his resume of failed Call Center Rep, self-appointed neighborhood spokesperson, self-annointed community activist and - coming soon - loosing self-appointed attorney.

Go for it Dan...but remember this: you can bluster all you want, but at the end of the day that and $0.50 will still just get you a copy of the Scranton Times...and that's about it.


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Well I don't know if he's the one in charge of the NEPA>Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Threads but he sure knew that I was sent a PM telling me that if I ever posted another post that promoted PD that I would no longer be welcome to post there ... that was via a private message so how did he know? I would think ... now this is just my opinion ... that he is a moderator over there ... that's the only way I can figure he would have knowledge of things that are in a private message ... I would put money on it that even if he is not a moderator he lodged a complaint against me ... all he had to do was tell me that it was agains the rules and I would have said ok ... I understand and won't do it again ... would have removed the post on my own!

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Self appointed attorney? He's in the legal business now?

Who is he to say that a link to another site is unwelcome? It isn't violating any user agreement that I've seen, unlike the countless copyrighted articles that have been posted in their entirety.

He's certainly not a mod. He's a member. That's it.

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Is he representing himself in the Daron Northeast lawsuit ... or has that been setteld ...



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Does he still have a hearing from the Patilla meeting hanging over his head? Maybe he's acting on his own behalf in that. Not much to do there, I guess, since that one will languish for quite a while. Why not act as your own attorney in a case that's on the back burner permanently, with the gas turned off, to get an easy no-decision. Is Joe co-counsel, if only to back into a cheap non-defeat?

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Once again I have made the mistake of replying to a thread at CD ... one that is not Dan Hubbard approved ... and once again ... a year later he is accusing me of making fun of him ... which I do not remember doing ... I am not going to apologize to this guy any longer ... I am done with that ... take a look at this post and tell me what you all think about it:

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Quite honestly I do not have the answers that you are seeking Paul ... but maybe ... if we formed a revitilization committee ... made up of citizens ... working with the Mayor (whoever the Mayor is) ... all of council and the Chamber of Commerce ... people who love this city and want to see the best for it ... we may be able to collectively effect change ... some objectives of this group could be:

Spur Economic Development
Increase the local tax base
Create Job opportunities
Stimulate housing
Draw investors
Rehabilitate empty building
Promote civic pride

This would be strictly a voluntariy basis ... open to all who care ... not an appointed committee. I am sure that in our city there are some incredibly talented people who want to see our city grow and become prosperous ... if we all put our heads together and approach the administation in a non combative way ... it could become a possibility. Or ... we could continue with life as usual in Scranton and whine at the podium week after week in a combative way ... and nothing will ever get done.

This is simply my opinion and I will not fight with anyone on this board because of it ... I have said what I needed to say and will not respond to combative posts directed toward me.
Thats a great idea but what do you do when you have a council, chamber and mayor that have no ones best interests in mind but their own?

We have a government that could care less about the residents of this city and they could care less if the city improves...

How do we expect anything to change or grow in this city when they have squandered over $15,000,000 in new hires and raises alone.....

Lus your ideas are like Pauls, they are fine in a perfect world, but this is reality and the reality of the situation is that the current mayor is the reason that the city is where it is financially, it will take decades to recover from this mess and then we will be able to start on improving the city.

The apathetic sheep are too easily impressed by treehouses and bridges to nowhere...They are too blinded by the facade of progress to see that the city has been buried and ruined for generations..

You complain and make fun of those that actually speak out against what is happening in the city and I agree with you to a point, but yet what have you done to help the city get away from this mess? YOU OPENLY STATE THAT YOU WILL VOTE FOR DOHERTY AND YOU ARE EMPLOYED BY THE SSD.....

HAVE YOU ACCEPTED ANY FAVORS FROM THE CITY FOR YOUR VOTES?

I thoroughly enjoy how you play both sides of the fence between your web site and here.........


Does anyone see me playing both sides of the fence?

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I do not hate you for your opinion. However I do feel that you hate me for mine... ... I respect your opinons even though you do not respect mine.

I am not making fun of people who speak out against what is happening ... what I find disheartening is that people go to the podium and play to the cameras ... you can say that they don't ... but watch them ... they are most certainly there to play to the camera ... they are there for the local celebrity status that it gives them ... and that is my opinion.

I know that you are not there to do that ... you honestly go there to get your siren and help relieve the flooding problems that your neighborhood is experiencing ... I hope that you get the siren and relief from flooding ... I know you don't believe me ... but I do ...

I would appreciate it if you would not bring up my site here as I was informed when I first joined that it was against the rules ... and I unlike you ... do not like to break the rules of this board. If you have something to say about my site please say it in a DM ...

Can you and I agree to disagree? Can you and I exist on this site together without you insinutating that I solicite political favors ... I actually think Dan that if you and I sat down and had a conversation that we would actually get along as I am quite capable of respecting all opinions ... even if they do not agree with my own.
Your kidding me right? As long as I am a target for your site, you and I will never agree to disagree.

I do agree with you about the speakers though and I have recently railed on them myself for the same reasons that you have stated.

Your opinions of me here on this site are vastly different from what you have to say about me on your site, so which is it? You say that we would get along here, but yet you have no problem bashing me there, do you?

YOUR A HYPOCRITE...You come here and play nice while you bash posts and posters from other sites like a 5 yr old on your site. Why do you have a problem mentioning your site here...I haven't named it and I won't but don't come here and act all innocent to the posters on CD while you bash, call people names and put people down left and right on your site.

AT LEAST WHEN I GET ON PEOPLES CASES, I DO IT UNDER MY REAL NAME.

I could sit here all day long and pull posts from your site and bash you if I wanted to, but I don't...BECAUSE I'M BETTER THEN THAT.....

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The only thing I will address from your Post Mr. Hubbard is the reason I do not like to talk about the site ... when I first joined I was given a small reprimand by a moderator and was told that I was not to do that here ... so I don't ... I have rules for my site and they have rules here and I will uphold those rules as I would expect them to do if they came to my site.

Now I'm done ... you didn't like my post and that's ok ... I said I will not address combative posts and I meant it ... Have a very lovely holiday Mr. Hubbard.



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Now looking back into the CD archives ... Dan you are the one that want's no discussion of PD on the CD site ... until it suits your personal needs that is. Do you remember asking that nobody post about the two sites on CD ... well I remember and I found it. I know that you check this site ... so here it is to refresh your memory.

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Boy oh boy 4 posts and all about DD, hmmmmm, well guess what we really don't discuss that much here but over at the PD site your good. If you actually want to discuss the city and its problems and have a healthy debate then we are all for it, but if want to cry about DD then goto PD if you want to cry about PD then goto DD, but lets stay on the problems at hand here and save your new to the board but I hate DD crap for the other sites ok.

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Stop bringing it up ... I stopped talking about it as you requested and yet you keep brining it up!

-- Edited by LusOnlyVoice at 13:46, 2008-12-14

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My CD final response to Dan Hubbard If they ban me that's ok!


Ok you want me to address this I will address this ... I posted this to PD ... so what ... where in those posts do I make fun of you????? I do not ... I don't know what it is you want from me ... a year ago you told me I made fun of your plight as a flood victim ... I personally did not ... you are always trying to find out who I am ... why do you want to know my name ... I only know yours because you want it known. I don't want the DD crazies bothering me ... they admit they are stalkers and darn proud of it.

::::::Your opinions of me here on this site are vastly different from what you have to say about me on your site, so which is it? You say that we would get along here, but yet you have no problem bashing me there, do you?:::::

Show me where I am bashing you Dan ... show me? You say it's what I am saying on my site ... show me!


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YOUR A HYPOCRITE...You come here and play nice while you bash posts and posters from other sites like a 5 yr old on your site. Why do you have a problem mentioning your site here...I haven't named it and I won't but don't come here and act all innocent to the posters on CD while you bash, call people names and put people down left and right on your site.:::::::

I'm a hypocrite ... well here is something I have not said in quite a while ... but Hello Pot ... this is Kettle! You right now are acting like a 2 year old ... I have a problem mentioning the site because on more than one occasion you stated that you don't want PD BS on CD ... so why do you continue to bring it up???? I am not acting innocent ... I have opinions just like you ... I have a right to them ... just like you ... I was banned from a site so I started my own to give opinions to off the wall crazy posts loaded with sexual innuendos an no facts to back the lies that they tell ... I have a right to the freedom of speech also you know. Not just you and Pilchesky.

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You complain and make fun of those that actually speak out against what is happening in the city and I agree with you to a point, but yet what have you done to help the city get away from this mess? YOU OPENLY STATE THAT YOU WILL VOTE FOR DOHERTY AND YOU ARE EMPLOYED BY THE SSD::::::

Why is it any of your business who I vote for ... you have a right to vote the way you see fit and I don't get on you for it ... you assume that I am getting something for my vote ... YOU ARE WRONG ... but you can't admit that ... So what I am employed by the SSD ... is that a crime???? I have been there for a long time ... Doherty had nothing to do with that ...
You dear sir treat anyone who disagrees with you like crap ... and in your small mind that's ok ... I try and treat you with respect ... but that as I have told you in the past is something that is earned ... and I fear you will not earn my respect ... I do not need your approval for my life ... I have no regrets ... well one ... and that would be every replying to you sir.
But sir I ask you this what have you done to try and change things ... what ideas have you ever taken to the podium to try and effect change ... none that I remember ... but when someone like Paul wants to try and get ideas that could help ... you immediately turn on them ... I'm done with you sir ...

I have had enough of Dan Hubbard and how he thinks the city of Scranton should think and feel ..... I have lived here my entire life and you sir are one of those transplants you are always putting down. Enough Said because I really hate the person you bring out in me ... put me on ignore that's where I have put you!



-- Edited by LusOnlyVoice at 05:18, 2008-12-15

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comment to Dan Hubbard --

Lus has been nothing but an exemplary administrator of this board. What she does elsewhere is none of my concern. I am the one (of many) who makes fun of your whoop-whoop-whooping when the first raindrop hits terra firma.

If you're so darned unhappy with your situation ... change it and quitcher bitchin' about it, for Pete's sake. There are many ways you can change your living situation, both for yourself and for your neighbors, but no one is going to take you seriously until you divorce yourself from the pilcheski's and their mindset.

Sure, the squeaky wheel get the grease, but the whiny, bitchy crybaby gets ignored.
(or is MADE to write a public and humiliating retraction to the editor)

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Thank you Girl ... I don't know if I would say I am an exemplary admistrator ... but I do try my best ... if someone is respectful to me I will be respectful back. This guy just hates me because I don't hate the Mayor and the city of Scranton as a whole ... oh well ... I can't and won't play his little game ... I will not bow down to him ... I just won't read anything he has to say anymore.

I did ask in the moderators forum that we leave Dan alone ... but that is wrong ... I have not and will not make fun of him ... but I have no right to ask you all to supress your personal feelings ...I am sorry that I asked that of all of you!

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Glenn are you channeling Gandalf?? I am impressed. :) However I am still holding you to the Dunkin coffee. If I have hit my weight goal by then I will, of course, expect a donut as well. :)))



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Check out the topic on this one.
You mean kind of like what DD does everyday with far less information than this if someone has the nerve to write a letter to the editor that is against the loons and the great ball-less bald one.?.....At least there is evidence that something actually occured here unlike across the hall where if some "thinks" something happened well then.. by God it did ........as$holes in the extreme


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Shows how Scranton Times loves digging dirt on speakers!

Scranton driver hits snow pile, strikes pickup truck


Published: Wednesday, January 07, 2009
Updated: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 6:21 AM EST
SCRANTON A 21-year-old man was taken for a blood test early Tuesday after driving his car off a snow pile and into a parked pickup truck near Lackawanna County Prison.

John Hubbard of 2201 Capouse Ave., Apt. 1, who failed a field sobriety test, turned right at North Washington Avenue and New York Street, striking the snow pile, according to police.

Mr. Hubbards Chevrolet sedan went airborne and landed on a Dodge pickup owned by Charles Boehmer of Waymart.

Police said charges of driving under the influence of alcohol are pending the results of blood work.


Suspected, not guilty!!! You never see peoples names for suspected DUI


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Is that Hubbards kid ... I don't think so ... his kids are still in school aren't they?

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I was looking and looking ... and I tell you this ... I could not find this post ... it has magically disappeared from the DohertyDeceit web site ....

I don't think it's Hubbards kid though his kids are still young and in school aren't they?

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I have no clue, sorry. :(

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I seem to think that you are right Lus. Dan is probably in his mid-late 30's, so it's unlikely that he has a child who is 21. It could be a relative though, and we all know that at DD the censorship pen is wielded in a might way.

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