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Mother Lover .... traffic SUCKS in downtown Scranton. Don't get me wrong, I like Al Roker just as much as the next guy ....

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::: ... You need to move past the "poor Scranton - everyone makes fun of us" mentality. Guess what - someone out there likes us and thinks we're cool. Now the people who live here need to start thinking that way. :::

I hear Sarah Jessica Parker is pushing to have the movie version of "Sex and the City" filmed here - Paul Sorvino has nothing to do with it either.

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Face it, Scranton is no longer a rust belt coal cracker town. Somehow we became cool, hip. Too bad the "everything sucks" crowd at dd.com can't see it that way.

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I think the "Office" convention is great. Will I be in attendance? No. Will I even attempt to drive anywhere in downtown Scranton until Monday? No. Do I give the people involved tons of credit for organizing the thing and planning an ENTIRE weekend's worth of activities?

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It sure is a shot in the arm for our city, just not when you've got to be somewhere and can't even use the sneeky back roads to get to where you need to be. I guess I should be bitching about Harrison Avenue being one way instead of the big par-tay at the "U". But, it's good to see people taking pictures of some of the buildings around the city.

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I love "The Office"...it's the second funniest show on television (right behind Scranton City Council meetings). I won't be attending the convention though...that's just a bit too strange for me...right up there with Fantasy Football and Star Trek conventions...although I agree that it is really good for the city.

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I have never seen the show ... I have heard about it ... but have never seen it.

I think anything that brings in alot of people who are going to spend money in our city ... and put a postivie light on it is a good thing.

I love this town and the buildings are some of the most beautiful ... so I am very happy that people are here to appreciate what we take for granted ...



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Great article on the city & The Office from San Francisco...

'Office' hoopla prompts first TV show convention in Scranton, Pa.

Thursday, October 11, 2007

Television viewers have been clamoring to spend more time at "The Office" ever since NBC made the workplace hilarious. And that's why some of them will end up in Scranton, Pa., the setting for the Emmy Award-winning comedy, which follows the exploits of employees in a struggling (and fictional) paper company called Dunder Mifflin.

To meet the demands of the self-proclaimed Dunderheads clocking in for visits to the fictional home of the series, Scranton is planning an "Office" Convention from Oct. 26 to 28.

Al Roker will broadcast live with "The Today Show" from the University of Scranton to inaugurate the convention. Nine cast members from "The Office" will be in attendance, including Angela Kinsey (Angela), Brian Baumgartner (Kevin), Mindy Kaling (Kelly) and Creed Bratton (Creed).

Getting there is like being part of a convoy of tractor-trailers. Truck traffic can be heavy on interstates 80 and 84, but unwrap the ribbons of pale expressway that surround the city, and downtown Scranton is utterly navigable. With a population of just 76,415, it has the feel of a big neighborhood rather than a city, with locally owned businesses and restaurants because big chains have not yet made big inroads.

Viewers might be disappointed to learn there is no Hooters in Scranton, even though the boss of "The Office" lunched there in Season 2. The show is written and filmed in Southern California, which explains the disconnect.

With the show now in its fourth season, the writers are much more conscious of mining the former anthracite capital of the world for nuggets of lore and local flavor. References to Hooters and Chili's, for example, have been replaced by mentions of legitimate Scranton landmarks such as Cooper's Seafood House or Poor Richard's Pub.

Working in Scranton is not as tough as it used to be. The city built its reputation on iron ore, selling iron rails to the Erie Railroad in nearby New York in the late 1800s. Industry leaders Seldon T. and George W. Scranton lent their last name to what was formerly known as Slocum Hollow. Things were going so well by 1886, it became known as the Electric City, with the first commercially successful trolley system in the United States. (Period trolleys will be in use during the convention as shuttles.)

But by 1901, Scranton already started to lose industry as ore sources dwindled. Coal then became king, and it was an unforgiving despot. Miners, many of them Polish immigrants, worked under harsh and dangerous conditions.

On "The Office," Dwight Schrute, played by Rainn Wilson, has Pennsylvania Dutch roots, but a name of Polish descent like that of actor John Krasinski would more likely be found in a Scranton phone book. On "The Office," Krasinski plays Jim Halpert, the cute boy next door (or rather in the next cubicle).

Scranton missed out on the post-World War II boom as oil and natural gas displaced coal as America's fossil fuel of choice. Then in 1959 the Knox Mine Disaster killed 12 miners and an entire job base, when workers were ordered to drill too close to the bed of the Susquehanna River in nearby Pittston. The river flooded the mines, and the coal industry never recovered in the Scranton area.

There followed a period of severe cave-ins. (Today the earth still swallows the occasional basement or section of road.) The city was down and out in more ways than one.

Scranton bashing became a hometown and national sport. In 2001, humor columnist, Gene Weingarten of the Washington Post put Scranton in the running for his Armpit of America contest, but spared it because "Scranton has a certain likable pugnacity that comes from knowing you are famously crummy and not giving two hoots."

It's taken a long time to shore up a city that was quite literally sinking. Those who couldn't hack it left. Those who stayed behind went on a campaign against dilapidation that had marred this now pretty city. Scranton is on the rebound, although a basketball metaphor is the wrong one to use for a place that's scored farm teams for major league baseball and the National Hockey League: the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees and the Wilkes-Barre Scranton Penguins.

With heavy industry gone, the city now produces a lot of love. Since 1974, local company Paper Magic has been creating the well-known boxed Valentine's Day cards featuring licensed characters such as Spider-Man or Scooby-Doo. And that had something to do with making Scranton a star.

Greg Daniels, executive producer of "The Office," was looking for a small city when adapting the British show for this country. He liked Scranton's proximity to New York, and was also aware of Paper Magic's presence and their products.

"I liked the idea that such a common thing has 'made in Scranton' printed on the back," Daniels wrote in an e-mail, adding, "I didn't actually remember that fact from my own Valentines, probably because I got so few Valentines as a child."

The paper company in Scranton most viewers associate with the show would be Pennsylvania Paper & Supply. Its 225,000-square-foot headquarters with landmark tower is featured in the opening credits. In another town, this brick industrial monument from the 1800s would have been converted into expensive condos. In Scranton it employs 135 people in a facility management company. And yes, that includes supplying paper products to offices.

The former terminal for the Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad has also earned a mention on "The Office." Built in 1908, it was renovated into a hotel in 1982 and is now a Radisson. This memorial to a lost industry (passenger rail service ended here in 1970), is also a stunning showcase of pre-Depression opulence with its vaulted Tiffany stained-glass ceilings and has earned a spot on the National Register of Historic Places. Its other claim to fame? "Office" cast member Rainn Wilson once slept there. It will be the official hotel of "The Office" Convention.

The obit-gossip columnist who reported on the watermark scandal on "The Office" was portrayed as a Scranton Times reporter. The Scranton Times building seems nondescript, but only from the outside. Peer into its windows to see the colossal machinery of the printing press. Its rich wood and marble lobby is as lofty and venerable as journalistic ideals should be.

Even the Steamtown Mall, which gets more than a few nods on "The Office," doesn't detract from the charm of downtown Scranton. It's more a covered pedestrian zone than a shopping complex. And it's become a draw for many college-age fans of the show who come through on spring break to get their pictures taken in front of the "Welcome to Scranton" sign seen in the show's opening credits. The sign was moved to the mall (just outside the Harry & David store) from the Scranton Expressway.

A popular-culture expert, Professor Robert Thompson of Syracuse University, has seen many of his own students make the pilgrimage to Scranton. " 'The Office' is one of the few network shows they still talk about," he said. "It's clearly the hippest and youngest show on television, with the ethos of the office resembling a college dorm or fraternity house."

Whatever the reason for its popularity with a part of the population that has yet to begin to work, "The Office" is having a ripple effect. "Scranton has become a hip city," Thompson said. And it just might be in danger of becoming a tourist attraction.

For details on "The Office" Convention and Scranton visitors information, visit the Lackawanna County Convention and Visitors Bureau Web site, www.visitnepa.org.



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Ag, I've no interest in watching the show but really enjoyed that article -- thank you for posting it. It's nice to know there's someone out there rooting for us.

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even this poster feels her pro-Scranton comments may be deleted ... it's a nice pat on the back for our fair city ...
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Leave it to the regulars on this forum toridicule and bemoananythingwith potential to bring the Electric City into the positive spotlight for a few days.

I'll have you all know that as a suburbanite I technically was amongst the "tourists" visiting your fair city from October 26-28, and I brought along three others as well---my boyfriend from Wayne County, my best friend from State College, and her boyfriend from Cincinnati, Ohio. Despite the rain all four of us had a phenomenal time enjoying all that the city had to offer. Friday was kind of a drag given the downpours, but we had wonderful meals at Brixx for dinner, did a bit of shopping at Steamtown, and saw the Steve Carell movie at the Marquee Cinema. Combined, the four of us easily pumped in over $100 into the city's economy on that night alone, not including the money we spent on Scranton-related merchandise at the NBC Store at the Radisson (hence promoting the city's image for years to come to other potential tourists with our apparel and knick-knacks; I wore my one t-shirt on my usual running route through the 'burbs on Halloweenand received a lot of positive feedback on it).

Saturday brought our group into contact with many wonderful, friendly people from out-of-town. Italked for about five minutes to two women who were visiting from Wisconsin. They said they were enjoying Scranton very much, and I gave them advice on city haunts to scope out that wouldn't be as crowded with Convention-related foot traffic. They were very grateful for the local insight and beaming civic pride (the latter of which very few of you here on DohertyDeceit seem to have if you have to rain on EVERYONE'S parade all the time). I spoke with a couple from New Jersey who said they had never been to Scranton but would like to return in the future to see more of it. I even heard one woman say she overheard Phyllis Smith (who plays "Phyllis" on the sitcom) saying she would like to consider moving to Scranton someday. There were a lot of local businesses at the downtown street festival selling all sorts of wares; I was sure to purchase a photo book of the city for $20 to compare her work to the work I have also done photographing the city for positive Internet exposure (some of us try to PROMOTE the city's image to potential newcomers, not detract from it with incessant bickering).

From 5PM-7PM on Saturday, October 27, there was an unbelievable crowd of nearly 4,000 inside the gymnasium on the campus of the University of Scranton for the cast member Q&A session. The event was opened with several homemade videos being shown on a very large screen. The first one was of the Scranton High School chorus singing and dancing to their own extended version of "Ain't No Party Like a Scranton Party," eliciting a number of laughs from the audience. The next video featured a lot of the convention staffers and city officials singing and dancing, including Mayor Doherty (who believe it or not received thundering applause when his face appeared on-screen). Finally, the cast appeared, and the true fun began for we "Dunderheads!" Throughout the evening Scranton itself as a city received thunderous applause from the audience. People had come all the way from Ireland, Sacramento, CA, and British Columbia, Canada to partake in the event, which proved to be a fun time for all! smile

I easily spent $75 in the city during the convention, and I'm sure most others did the same. Even if the turnout was more like 10,000 instead of 50,000, that would still be a good $750,000 (or more) pumped into the city's economy in terms of restaurants, hotels, theaters, bars, etc. I saw many convention-goers wandering the streets of downtown and either browsing around in or window-shopping at places like Poochie, Anthology Books, Outrageous,Lavish, Marquis Art & Frame, New Laundry, Northern Lights, etc., all of which are businesses you people seem to hate solely because you can't afford to patronize them and think others shouldn't be able to as a result (petty jealousy, anyone?). evileye

I'm by no means a fan of Christopher Doherty, but as a suburbanite who resides just over the county line, I can tell you that much of the discussion leading up to today's mayoral election in Wilkes-Barre revolved around how much "better" Scranton seems to be doing than the Diamond City to the south. Whether or not this is the case, you still can't deny that the city's IMAGE has improved drastically from "armpit" to "up-and-comer." I'm involved on MANY Internet message boards, and Scranton is no longer the brunt of cruel jokes like it used to be. Perhaps now people will give Scranton a second look as a place to visit, fall in love with, and move to? ideaI know the "image" has worked for me; I plan to move into the city limits after graduate school to rehabilitate a home, raise a family, and help to make your (soon to be OUR) city a great place to live! biggrin When you compare Scranton to places like Reading, Allentown, Wilkes-Barre, York, Altoona, Binghamton, etc., you truly don't realize just how good you have it as compared to so many others. Now that the growth from the Poconos is starting to spill over into the Moscow/Mt. Cobb/Hamlin region, it's only a matter of time before Scranton turns around as well.

Since I don't want to see this get deleted again like my other pro-Scranton rants, let me clarify that I love Scranton not because of the mayor (who has made a LOT of mistakes in my humble opinion) or the city council (especially people like Sherry Fanucci who do nothing but laugh and make fun of people who she perceives to be less intelligent than herself), but I love it because of its PEOPLE and the POTENTIAL it has to be something great again. You might be sitting at 50% of your heyday population, but believe me when I tell you there are a number of young professionals and college students (like myself) who are tiring of the 'burbs and want to reinvigorate Scranton. People in the city seem to genuinely care about one another, unlike in my own subdivision where I wave to neighbors as I drive by only to have half of them turn their heads away. People in Scranton rally together in times of need, have conversations from front porches and backyard fences, engage in block parties, and vote in large numbers. I'm sold on moving to the city and hopefully bringing my ideas to the city council podium in the future; why are 99.9% of the others on here certain that the city is long dead and breathing its last breath when the best times have yet to come? 2009 isn't that far away, you know. smile

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and then they proceeded to jump all over him for posting something positive --- :::gasp::: on election day, nonetheless, when everyone should be pitted one against the other.


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Well how could we expect them not to jump on this poster ... who might I add used to be a member here ... but if I remember correctly only posted one time in a sub forum that was deleted as the moderator of that forum SamVit lost interest.

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Ragging on a poster about a TV show convention appears to be more fun than acknowledging that your 'movement' is a crock of crap.

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Well, it should come as no surprise to anyone that this message in particular that I posted on DD during my brief tenure there resulted in my banishment. Before banishment Mr. Pilchesky and I also squabbled a bit when he made a crude reference to my sexual orientation (no surprise thereconsidering he condones usage of racial slurs), and that has still left quite a sour taste in my mouth.

I simply don't understand why Mr. Pilchesky was so intimidated by me. I started a few threads on his forum, and one was simply entitled, more or less, "Viable Strategies to Improve Scranton." I posted a few attachments of the central business district of Ithaca, NY and its multi-block pedestrian plaza, and I proposed something similar might be considered for either a few blocks of Spruce Street downtown, or even the entirety of Courthouse Square. After all, if motorists can maneuver around the square just fine during La Festa Italiana and other community events, then why not permanently for the creation of a pedestrian plaza with the asphalt replaced by bricks/cobblestones and these new wide walkways lined with benches, Victorian-era street lights, etc. Ithaca, NY even has a playground in the middle of its pedestrian plaza for tourists with children to enjoy under the careful watch of their fathers while the mothers do some shopping (or vice-versa). This thread was also attacked and deleted. Why? My guess is that those who post on DD are merely malcontents who aren't happy unless everyone agrees with them that there is absolutely NO hope for the city recovering.

I know I use "the mayor's" slogan as my avatar, but I consider it to be representative of the city, not its administration. I disagree with the mayor on many issues, even though some accuse me of being a supporter. I see this slogan as being something the city's residents should rally behind, not attack simply because the mayor thought of it.

Like it or not, Scranton is rounding a corner. "The Office" has brought national attention to our city, and the convention (albeit very wet) was a success that would have been even better for the city's businesses if folks weren't avoiding strolling and window-shopping due to the rain. My party and I ate at Brixx on Friday night, and the restaurant was quite literally packed. I suspect establishments mentioned on the show, such as Poor Richard's Pub and Cooper's, were probably even busier. The city has been referenced in various major national publications, not only for "The Office," but for many other reasons as well. Scranton's largest hurdle has ALWAYS been improving its downtrodden image, and I'm happy to say that my hard work on another major forum to promote the city incessantly for the past year-and-a-half has paid off---at least one upper-middle-class family moved into the Hill Section solely because they fell in love with a home in one of my photo tours, and others who have never even heard of the city are now inquiring about it. The more "hype" our city gets, the more likely it is to attract new residents who want to invest in a city on the rise, retain existing ones who will want to stick it out to see their housing values rise, and attract prospective high-quality employers who will view the "hype" as being character of an improving quality-of-life.

The folks on DD have to be the most bitter sourpusses in existence. They garner NO respect from me. They fail to realize that Joe's noble intentions of starting a web site aimed at exposing corruption in the city and county have imploded into ruining the city's image. People here in Luzerne County are all well aware of the "circus" that is the city of Scranton, and they laugh just as hard at Scranton as you folks laugh at us here in Luzerne County for the debit card scandal. The "circus" comments from these folksaren't aimed at the current administration---it is aimed solely at the Legion of Doom (or Loons), DD, Joe Pilchesky, Fay Franus, and the rest of the miserable lot.

I posed this question before on other forums, and nobody ever answered me. If these people are so ungodly miserable living in Scranton, then why don't they move to the suburbs where they can then whine and gripe about MORE problems. We might not have politicians as corrupt in the 'burbs, but we have worse traffic congestion, higher property taxes (imagine that), poorer municipal services (no recycling, volunteer fire departments, police that don't patrol, etc.), etc. I suspect folks like Fay Franus would be at ANY council or supervisors' podium to air grievances, even if she lived in frou-frou Waverly. People like her aren't happy unless they can blame their shortcomings in life on others (most of DD is that way actually).



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I posed this question before on other forums, and nobody ever answered me. If these people are so ungodly miserable living in Scranton, then why don't they move to the suburbs where they can then whine and gripe about MORE problems. We might not have politicians as corrupt in the 'burbs, but we have worse traffic congestion, higher property taxes (imagine that), poorer municipal services (no recycling, volunteer fire departments, police that don't patrol, etc.), etc. I suspect folks like Fay Franus would be at ANY council or supervisors' podium to air grievances, even if she lived in frou-frou Waverly. People like her aren't happy unless they can blame their shortcomings in life on others (most of DD is that way actually).

I think that you have just answered your own question SWB ... these people would bitch about things no matter where they lived ... it wouldn't matter they would find problems even in a perfect eutopia. They cannot be happy unless they have something to complain about ... publicly ... now they really couldn't move elsewhere as they would lose their perfect ultimate public forum which gives them somewhat of a celebrity status ... even if it is only in thier own minds ... that forum is provided by Channel 61 ... they don't boradcast all Council meetings in the surrounding areas ... I think they used to put on Throop meeting however when the behavior at these meetings became embarassing the plug was pulled as it should be here in Scranton ... that's my opinion ... if thosecamera's were gone the Council meetings would be much more productive and civil .... just my opinion!

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Here's an answer SWB, short, sweet and to the point:

Complaining is easier than doing.

I live in Scranton precisely because it has professional police and fire protection. Nothing scares me more than the words "volunteer fireman"....well nothing more than perhaps the words "Fay Franus nude".



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::::People like her aren't happy unless they can blame their shortcomings in life on others (most of DD is that way actually).::::

Bingo!! It is easier for those losers to blame their miserable lives on others than it is for them to take responsibility for their own mistakes.They are losers, period! The day they move out of our area will be a great day for the rest of us. I have offered several times to let them use my truck if it will help them get out faster. :))

I have lived in Scranton my whole life, and I have traveled a great deal. Frankly the only downside to living here as opposed to many other placesI have visited is the cold weather, otherwise I love it here. My kids love it here. My whole family is practically within walking distance of each other, holidays are wonderful as everyone gets to be together. You can't buy that kind of joy. I couldn't be happier unless we could make it 75degrees all winter, of course!! LOL LOL

I have been to Ithaca and know exactly the plaza you are speaking of, it is beautiful. The whole town of Ithaca is great. I would love to see something like that here. Don't let those crepe-hangers get you down, there are plenty of people who are happy and wonderful to be around, we have a nice group right here as well. They all have a great sense of humor andI predict you will laugh out loud at least once everytime you visit us here. Keep your great ideas fresh andbrush the dust of those losers off your shoes. Glad to have you here. :))

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