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IHavehadenoughofhaters


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Is Joey actually so stupid as to be trying to intimidate a candidate to get out of race? Aren't there laws about trying to force someone into acting in a certain way by means of threating their business? I think this post is amazing!
The more I think about this the worse it becomes in my view. Isn't Joey saying (when you boil all his chest thumping down) if you do not do as I say, I intend to set out on a mission to try and destroy your business? Did I read that wrong? Surely in my country there are laws to protect someone against this kind of intimidation. Hey Joey I am glad you really care about people's individual freedoms, guess Mr. Piccolino doesn't get any of those freedoms right??
Glen?? What are your thoughts on this whopper?

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RE: Pizza Boy vs. The Boy, Period - empty choices

Piccolino fully understands the simple math here. His staying in the race translates into lost votes for Rogan. Rogan is the cleaner of the two, much cleaner. Much younger, but much cleaner, character and reputation wise. Rogan is working harder, much harder.

Here's the objective, Giovanni: Get McGoff out!

Sparglia and Morgan hurt one another. Two older men, with Sbaraglia being the much better candidate. Morgan wouldn't back up for the benefit of the people. That drives me crazy. Morgan should have pulled out so there would have been a better shot to knock off McGoff. I don't know why he didn't pull out, but the results are that he snagged well over a thousand votes for NOTHING.

Now, we have Piccolino doing the exact same thing, staying in a race that will result in taking votes off Rogan. Piccolino's stay translates into a sure McGoff win. A sure McGoff win translates into TWO MORE TAX INCREASES, which translates into many millions more in taxes paid by us to cover Doherty's reckless spending. Translated, Piccolino is the million-dollar candidate because if he stays, we will pay millions out the ass for it. Is he that stupid not be able to understand that?

Dear Mr. Piccolino, on behalf of every single taxpayer in the city of Scranton, will you kindly get out of the way so we can have a good chance at getting Mr. McGoff removed from office? You're going to be the direct cause of the tax increases if Rogan loses by 1500 or so. Are you aware of that? I will personally make sure each and every pizza buying taxpayer understands that. And, for as long as I breathe. PLEASE, GET OUT. 09 is just around the corner. You can stroke your ego then. I'm asking you nicely. "CAN YOU RESPECT THE SITUATION THE TAXPAYERS ARE IN AND HELP BY GETTING OUT OF THIS RACE?" Play your part if you really want to make a difference in this city. There are thousands of taxpayers who can't pay the last tax increase. If McGoff wins, they will be severely burdened even more. Do you understand that, Sir?????

I'll have a pizza to go with pepperoni and a tax increase on it. Remember where you read that the first time and expect to read it many times over for years to come if your presence helps McGoff to win. I'll put that on billboards, on T-shirts and on bumper stickers. Not kidding. This is too serious for you to be playing with the financial lives of all the taxpayers.



-- Edited by IHavehadenoughofhaters at 01:03, 2007-09-07

-- Edited by IHavehadenoughofhaters at 01:05, 2007-09-07

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But I guess it's ok for Pilchesky to play with the financial lives of the Piccilino family ... Nice!

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What gives these IDIOTS (Pilchesky, Fay 'foam @ the mouth' Franus, et all) the right to think they can speak "for the people"???? When last I checked, Pilchesky can probably speak for about 30 of his regular posters, and that's probably about it. Franus, well, maybe she can speak for all of the bitter, old utility company workers out there.

If either serial-plaintiff Pilchesky or Franus want to truly speak "for the people", then I suggest they get their high and mighty a$$es registerred as candidates and run for office themselves. In a representative democracy that's how it is supposed to work.

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Dear Mr. Piccolino, on behalf of every single taxpayer in the city of Scranton, will you kindly get out of the way so we can have a good chance at getting Mr. McGoff removed from office?

Dear Joe,

I'm a taxpayer in Scranton. Don't do anything on my behalf, please.

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... every single taxpayer ...
Those are fine words coming from a guy who loudly and proudly doesn't pay his taxes.

Isn't this the business the a$$holes from across the hall bent over backwards to help a few months back? Isn't this the man the a$$holes from across the hall applauded whenever he approached the podium at city council meetings? Isn't this the man the a$$holes from across the hall jammed down our throats for city council?

Jesus H -- Joe is more fickle than a fifteen year old girl.

(edited becausea$$holes is a dirty word when you spell it correctly)

-- Edited by His Girl Thursday at 08:38, 2007-09-07

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I was in town just recently. I went to Coney Island for lunch one day and ran into some frineds from college on lunch. They work at a local law firm and are abrest of the situation with city business. We where talking a little about it and i mentioned how the frount of Buona (sp) pizza was quite a political banner. We said a few words before a gentleman sitting a little down the counter chimed in. He said and i quote "it's pretty sad isn't it.....he can't run like a normal candidate because he has to pander to people he can loose business if he doesn't"

Now this guys theory was that his constituants where the basic makeup of his customer base. I however read a little more into that statement. Mr. Piccolino may be a great candidate or he may not but the sad thing is JOe and his merry buch of goons are the type that if Mr. Piccolino doesnt do their bidding then they will boycott his business.

They all yell and preach about the domain issue when it is a cause against the mayor. When they think they have someone they can controll like a puppet they are happy but then that person chooses to act as their own person then wammo, they jump ship and are againt said person.

If this isnt the same pay to play politics they hate so much i don't know what is. They are holding his pizza parlor hostage. I don't know Piccolino from Adam, but i know he is running and is his issues are well based and thought out and he runs an honest campaign then he should have a fair crack like everyone else. DD see's it differently and that is as un-American as anything i can think of. Hypocrit does not come close to the word that describes them!

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Here's my theory.

Only about 2 of the 2 dozen active posters but pizza from Buona. The decision to boycott him will have zero affect on his business.

Let's say that Joe's right and that I'm wrong. Let's say that dd.com has 500 members. How many of those 500 are regular customers of Buona Pizza? 10? 12?

The notion that Pilchesky can do anything to hurt the guy's business is idiotic at best. I don't even like Buona Pizza, but I may buy some now just for spite.

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If Joe were to sit down in front of Buona's and go all Tibetan Monk on us, that might hurt Gino's business.

Go for it, Joe! Good luck. Use wooden matches.

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Well Art I may have to respectively disagree with you on this one. (wow that may be a first my friend) Here is my reason:

Lets assume you have an average Mom or Dad who will be buying pizza for dinner tonight after a long day at work. Ok they now have to chose where to buy from, they think Buona's but then they remember that there is a potential to run into the goons who are parading around in tee-shirts and hats protesting! I predict they then say to themselves, I have no time for that nonsense let's just get <fill in the blank> pizza. The pizza business around here is very competitive given how many places there are available. I do not think it would take much to throw off a man's business in this particular area.

However the more important issue isn't if Joey and his goons might be successful in their attack, the more important issue is that they threatened a person running for office with retribution if they don't immediatly withdraw from the municiple election. Mr. Piccolino has no way to know, with any certainty, if they will or will not be successful, so he may actually alter his actions out of fear they may be successful. Thus the intimitation has indeed been successful.
I can't believe that this kind of event doesn't fall under the election code and law pertaining to voter/candidate intimidation. This is wrong, plain and simple... wrong!

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Who is going to stop going to get pizza, 20 sheep?? I think Buona can handle it from Cyber Bully..

You know I have never heard Joe EVERY type anything happy about anything but EVANS.

That is a sad individual. So much hate. Hey Joe keep blabbin, a FEW will follow, you have shown us all that only A FEW follow nut bags.







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If i owned a business and someone used threats and intimidation to get me out of a political race i would scream soo loud everyone in the area would know about it.

This is the kind of thng that Piccolino needs to shed light on. Joe is a useless human being but he has a voice. He wil try and bully this kid out of business. If piccolino does nothing and contiunes his campaign then joe will go ahead and create problems. Piccoliuno then might resort to street justice and get himself in trouble and joe gets a settlement. EXACTLY WHAT JOE WANTS.

Piccolino should copy the post, bring it to WNEP and the TT and any other news outlet and ask for a bit of time. It is free advertising for his campaign and for his parlor. He can plead to the residents of Scranton who have eaten at his place to come out and support his fathers business and to not let political bullies push him off the block. People love that **** and will back him and be pissed at Joe. It is worth a try!!

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ooh and I'll be buying pizza from buona now.

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::: ... I predict they then say to themselves, I have no time for that nonsense let's just get pizza. ... :::

I agree to a certain extent with this logic. However, since I (personally) am not ever exposed to any of these goons (good description, by the way) on a personal level, I would find it comical to see the handful of them out front in their faded, old, raggety-ass LOaD shirts and would find an abundance of pleasure in walking past them with both my head and my middle finger held high. I might even look them square in the eye as I voice an opinion or three.

Buona, in my humble opinion, is one of, if not THE best pizza in the city and the only reason I don't frequent it as often as I would like to, is because of the parking and traffic issues. But if I had the extra perk of having the opportunity of being confronted by one of those (heh) goons, I'd park at the Radisson if I had to and make the walk up - Primarily in the hope that I'd run into granma on my way out with my pizza - and have her b- b- b- b- babble at me, try to knock my pizza out of my hand and have her run away when I said "BOO!" .

One of them HAS to realize just how ridiculous they are, both singularly and as a group.

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I'd LOOOOVE for one of the goons to approach me.
I'd laugh so hard I'd piss myself.

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Please let me be very clear on what my question and concern is on this issue.


I agree that most likely Joey and his goons do not have the numbers to impact Picollinos business to any great degree, though I think it may be presumptuous of us to be willing to gamble on that issue given that its not our business that is targeted. That is, however, not relevant to the issue. How successful someone may be in executing a threat is only relevant, I believe, during the process for determining what charges can be filed, and at the end of the trial should they be found guilty, to determine the remedy/sentence to be handed down.

Let me use a wild example of what I am trying to say and no I do not think these two events are equal in anyway, I am just using as means of clarifing what I am asking:

Someone calls in a bomb threat to a building, after determining who did it, and apprehending this person, it is determined that they never had the wherewithal to actually carry out the threat. That would not negate their responsibility for having made the threat in the first place. It would, I believe, if it were determined they did have the wherewithal to carry out the threat increase their level of responsibility.

So basically, having the ability to carry out your threat is not, in my mind anyway, necessary as a prerequisite to being held responsible for having made a threat to begin with, having the ability would only increase your level of responsibility.


So my question is this:

Does stating as Joey has and backing it up with the below post constitute a threat of retaliation against a candidate for exercising their rights under the constitution to run for office?
In a country were there have been rulings stating that simply to ask voters for identification before entering the voting place can in some cases, constitute an attempt at voter suppression/intimidation, could not the actual stated comments from Joey be viewed in the same light?


Joe PilcheskyPosts: 1455Date: Sep 7 10:20 AM, 2007Views: 118Quote | ReplyRE: Pizza Boy vs. The Boy, Period - empty choices It's not a threat at all. IT'S A PROMISE. Yes, this is America, and it's time we used our free speech rights to fight against adverse election results long before the election. This is old stuff, loading up on candidates to thin the voting pool and vastly increase a crony incumbents chances of winning. It's a guy thing for Piccolino, a pathetic, selfish and sad ego trip. No toys as a child? Too many? No maturity in sight. No vision. He needs to get off the playing field or he'll be politically flattened out there. I'll do the flatening. With vigor, pleasure and dedication in the best interests of the people. No extra charge! Few promises of that political nature come with a fair warning. That's a gift. Since I've become involved, I've always done the things I said I would do. I will rip off Piccolino's political head and s-h-i-t down it, politically speaking. Buona Pizza Boy may become the Buona Shoeshine boy. He's a good-looking man who makes great pizza, but there's no mature spine in sight. He's not man enough. I've been slapping him around on this site for months now. Not a peep out of him. He's not going to play "Look at me, I'm a candidate" on my watch and not pay the price. That's just how it is. Welcome to the new political NEPA, where everything gets plucked, from the newly hatched crony chicks to the savvy vultures.







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They absolutly can. This is something JOe can at least be held accountable to explain tyhus creating unwanted publicity for picolino. Who the F is joe to take this holier than thou approach to everyone. Where does he get off thinking he will be able to continue harassing people and judging them as if he is without sin. I tell you what joe wouldnt last a second around me....Politically speaking of course.

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Damnit - I had myself all whipped into a frenzy at the thought of simply flipping him the bird and going on my merry way, with pizza in hand. Now you've gone and made me actually 'think' about the situation.

Just imagine the shoe was on the other foot - he says he will never run for public office, so as not to make himself a public figure - but (in the wise words of our admin) someone farts sideways in his direction, and pilcheski's all over it waving the bill of rights to fan the stink. He's got a lot of nerve thinking he can do no wrong and pretending everything he says is the gospel truth.

As my mother would say - "He's got more crust than brains."

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Fair enough I've had...we all see things differently. I honestly think most people have no idea that he even owns Buona. Remember though, the sidewalk in front of Buona has it fair share of nightly goons anyway - I don't think Joey's crew will scare any of them away.

The Green Ridge location is on private property, so there will be no protesting in front of the shop. They can protest all they want from Green Ridge Street, but they won't be allowed on the Giant/GR Shopping Center lot.

So now we're back to goons on Lackawanna Ave. How long do you think those head cases can keep up the protest? I give it 2 hours, one night, and maybe a few bicycle drive-bys by Jim Stuckart.

Remember, Joe six pack has little tolerance for BS. If he thinks he's being harassed by the dd goons I suspect there will be trouble - and not for Joe six pack.

I seriously doubt most people will have any idea what those nuts are talking about, let alone allow themselves to be chased by Joe and his clowns. Ask KFC how much impact the animal rights protesters have had on business.

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who is joe sixpack. What a great nickname. I used to know this guy from wilkes berre who used to shoot pool at idle hours and all his buddies called him mick cadillac ......I figured it was cause he drove a cadillac, but after a while i found out it was because a guy who had mugged him at one point pulled into the same bar he was at in kingston one night. Mick went outside and completley trashed his caddie. From that day on everyone knew him as mick or micky cadillac.

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"Mick"....ut oh...better call Anti, the ICBM (damn, I mean ICN) are at it again.

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Well, I just want to let you all know ... we got Buona Pizza tonight ... 3 trays ... it's our favorite ... and not a damn goon in sight ...



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