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Greetings.

Too bad Joe Pilchesky tried to scare you away from here by lying to you about the nature of this board. You need to know a few things about this place and why it exists.

-This board is, for the most part, a collection of people who argued against some of the tactics or points made by Pilchesky on his website.

-There are no secrets here. Several attempts to undue the integrity and security of this board were made, as well as several attempts by people claiming to be someone they were not. That's why the IP's are posted - to chase off the trouble makers.

-Everyone knows your IP address. If you think you've ever sent an email, visited a message board, or PM'd someone without giving it away you don't undestand how the Internet works. If the thought of someone knowing your IP address freaks you out, get rid of the Internet.

-Knowing someone's IP address does nothing for anyone. All it does is tell you who the Internet Provider is, or in the case of some companies - the name of the company hosting the site.

-When Pilchesky claims he "protects your IP address," he's not really telling you the truth. All he (or we ) have is an address, your Internet service provider is the only one who knows who you are. They are the ones who will have to reveal your identity in court if pressed. All Pilchesky (or we) can do is give a list of IP addresses to the authorities. The authorities have to get your name from your name from your ISP.

-The moderators of this board have not emailed anyone trying to gain IP addresses. We have responded to emails, and sent PM's to certain posters at Pilchesky's site with post links we think you may find interesting. Think it through - if handing your IP address out is such a dangerous thing, why would we be emailing anyone? It just doesn't make any sense.

-Joe did, in fact, threaten a federal lawsuit against this site. Ther posts he claims are gone remain. Someone posted here pretending to be him. The site admin labled him a "fake" Pilchesky right from the start.

The bottom line is that Joe likes to huff and puff, but he never blows anything down. Enjoy your visit here. Unlike Joe Pilchesky, we won't tell you where to go on the web and won't ban you for disagreeing with us. Imagine that - we treat you like adults and let you make your own decisions. I suspect you'll find that refreshing.

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Art Gordon


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Really, which ones? I've removed one (1) post in my entire time here. It was yesterday. Someone described Joe's alleged inability to perform sexually in a foul and graphic way. What other posts have I removed?

Peace be with you - jackass.

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Art I don't think that he meant you personally ... someone took down an entire thread ... I was a poster in that thread ... mine was also taken down ... I do believe that you Art and IHave also posted there ... so Restoring ... you were not the only one who had posts taken away ... I do not know the reason for it ... but I will back the moderators of this board for the actions that they take. I can venture a guess as to why ... and I have to tell you I was uncomfortable with the direction in which that thread was leading this site. But you already knew that as we had discussed this via PM's.

You knew this was a possibility as I sent you the "Welcome to PD" Email ... in this email it states that you may find that your posts have been removed ... but more than likely you will not be banned.

Now I am guessing that one or more of the moderators did not feel that the proof that you provided concerning Chris Evans was sufficient and that is why it was removed. Am I right?

I was thinking along the same lines myself ... that showed no proof as to the computer that the information was taken from ... and we are not DD ... we need proof to leave up posts of that nature ... they could be very damaging and cause someone to lose thier job ... and well there just has to be more proof than what you and doomer provided ... I hope that you understand ... and if you don't ... I do not know what to say ... other than I am sorry but this could happen from time to time unless proof positive is given.



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Ok guys ... egos have been bruised ... new posters came in gangbusters and began an out and out war with DD ... understandable ... really it is ... it's just been done with not much proof ...

Opinions are just that ... each of us have different opinions ... we are not always going to agree and we do not have to ... but lets try and refrain from the name calling and lets try and be polite ... I reserve my name calling for my nemesis ... Joe Pilchesky!

Trust is earned and it's hard for us to trust new posters that come on so strong in the beginning due to the fact that there have been a few of the DD gang that came in to try and gain our trust and change our minds ... so I hope you understand.

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Now I am guessing that one or more of the moderators did not feel that the proof that you provided concerning Chris Evans was sufficient and that is why it was removed. Am I right?
Yep. And he was made very aware of the reasoning behind it. He'd rather just pout about it. That's fine. If an internet thread is that important to him, then I suggest turning off the computer, finding a nice shade tree, and sitting outside with a book. He clearly needs a break.



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Well Paul ... you know that I place my trust in you ... when you first came here ... you didn't think much of us ... remember? And now look at how far we have all come when we learned to respect one and other's opinions ... hey our opinion's as Girl Thursday says ... is the only thing that is truly our own!

Thank you for your ever watchful eyes and your advice Paul ... I appreciate it!

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Gud advis Granma:

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I got a PM telling me how they were talking about me. And S/he would join and tell them off if I wanted them to. I will admit did check it out a few times but a waste of time. I do know who the administrater is. And all I can say is ignor the ignorant. They know no better !

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Agreed Lus. The problem is that disagreeing with someone and removing unfounded accusations are two different things. I don't think anyone here ever removed anything that they "disagreed" with.

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No Art if I removed what I didn't agree with ... shari lewis's posts would never have been left up ... and neither would Sheds.

Oh and didn't I tell everyone that I know Granma ... and apparently ... she knows me!


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You should have her for dinner some night. I suggest in a stew.

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LOL

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LOL LOL God love ya if Granma knows you lol lol She will want to keep giving you her opion. LOL LOL

-- Edited by IHavehadenoughofhaters at 16:14, 2007-08-24

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Granma ... here is one just for you!!!

- Mr. Roger's Neighborhood

It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood,
A beautiful day for a neighbor,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?

It's a neighborly day in this beautywood,
A neighborly day for a beauty,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?

I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.
(how lucky am I ... I do live in a neighborhood with you!)

So let's make the most of this beautiful day,
Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?

Won't you please,
Won't you please,
Please won't you be my neighbor?



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Please Granma, please register here and tell us all of.

I beg you...

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As to the other items in this thread, I too was uneasy with some of the accusations against Chris Evans, so I understand why Paul took them down. I'm not sure I would have, but I respect his judgement.

If there is additional proof that identifies DD posters, be they a member of the Evans family or not, then I say bring it on. The only thing I think we all ask is that it be factual in nature and not be obscene. Tempers do flair and the desire to fight back against serial-plaintiff Pilchesky & his cretins can be very strong, but at the end of the day if we fail to hold ourselves to standards that are higher than they do at DD, then we just become a different version of DD. Same hate, different target.

As for Pilchesky's "warning" to his flock about coming here, I say this...it's the same trick that dictators have been using for centuries. Don't want your "people" to be exposed to different points of view? Why then simply scare them into not reading/watching/listening to the opposition. Tell them that they will be harmed if they are exposed. Guess what Pilchesky...even your sheep are smarter than that (well, all except Gramna...but that's a different thread).

Lastly, if you ever wanted an example of DD and this site, how's this one?

AT DD, PILCHESKY TELLS PEOPLE TO BE AFFRAID TO COME TO HERE.

AT PD, WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO READ DD. HELL, WE EVEN PASTE POSTINGS FROM DD ONTO THIS SITE.

Case closed.


-- Edited by Agamemnon at 16:32, 2007-08-24

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Joe's just an idiot.

What's the very first thing a child does when you tell him not to touch the plate of cookies?

Welcome visitors!

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Paul wrote:

Joe's just an idiot.

What's the very first thing a child does when you tell him not to touch the plate of cookies?

Welcome visitors!



If the child is named Pilchesky, the very first thing he probably does is sue his parents for deprivation of food.



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Oh Agam ty I laughed out loud at that one. this has been a tough week for me andI really needed a laugh ty so much

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IHave ... I hope all is well with you!

Ag you are a riot!

I hope that everyone understands why Paul removed the posts ... I certainly do ... there is a lot at risk when you post something without having solid proof of exactly where it came from ... a picture of a computer screen is not proof positive of where that information was obtained ...

Now if the called in the IT crew for the SSD and got them to go through that computer (not sure that they would) they I am sure would be able to find out and get to the bottom of things and determine if this truly was Chris Evans posting, it's the only way that I would think you could absolutely determine who it is.

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IHave ... I hope all is well with you!

I hope that everyone understands why Paul removed the posts ... I certainly do ...

Now if the called in the IT crew for the SSD and got them to go through that computer (not sure that they would) they I am sure would be able to find out and get to the bottom of things

Ty Lus I am sure all will be well soon It's just one of those weeks were whatever could go wrong does LOL LOL

I also understood Paul's position and I shared his concern however, even if I hadn't, I would still trust his judgement. I have been a long time poster and have not seen anyone take advantage of their moderator duties. In fact I think all show quite a bit of restraint when it comes to reacting to posts that are questionable.

Not certain about this but Lus you may be on to something. I am under the impression that anything done on a company computer belongs to the company. Further, they have every right to examine the content of an employees computer,that, I believe, includes e-mails and what/where the employee is doing/veiwing as it pertains to internet usage. Anyone know if I am correct?

If in fact the person in question is veiwing/posting during work hours, on the taxpayers dime, from the company computer, SSD IT and adminsitration should certainly look into this internally. Perhaps (as I know this is an important issue) that may be the best course of action for "Doomer" poster to take, in order to get to the bottom of this without stepping over any lines.



-- Edited by IHavehadenoughofhaters at 08:52, 2007-08-25

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That is my feelings on how it should be handled ... it's not that I don't want him and RTP to get to the bottom of this ... I just want them to do it in the right way ... I hope that they understand that.

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My two cents on the questions posed by IHave...

I am under the impression that anything done on a company computer belongs to the company (1). Further, they have every right to examine the content of an employees computer,that, I believe, includes e-mails and what/where the employee is doing/veiwing as it pertains to internet usage (2). Anyone know if I am correct?

(1) My understanding is that you are correct IHave, provided that the organization in question has such a policy in place that has been distributed to its employees. My guess is that this is almost always correct in the public sector; I'm not as sure about the governmental or not-for-profit sectors. My employer has such a policy that extends beyond just computer use...anything I 'create' during the course of my employment technically is the property of my employer.

(2) Similar to the above. My employer reserves the right to examine at any time for any reason any of my electronic communications, including email, internet useage and voice useage. As a manager, I've had need to examine the internet and email useage of people that have reported to me. I know this is the norm for businesses; not sure about something like the SSD (although I could get a copy of the IT policy from my wife I suppose).

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Just for the heck of it, I've pasted below my employer's eMail Privacy Policy...name deleted by me.

[My Employer] reserves the right to monitor, disclose and/or produce copies of e-mail transmissions, at any time, without notice.[My Employer]reserves the right to monitor the use of its e-mail systems and equipment, including, but not limited to, phone lines, computers, software, and storage devices.[My Employer] also reserves the right to access, copy, monitor, block, remove and disclose as necessary all message or communications transmitted on its e-mail systems, without regard to their content, without notice and in its sole discretion.


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Thanks Agam. LOL LOL Sometimes half of my brain actually kicks in LOL LOL. I certainly hope Doomer and RTP send the infoto SSD IT dept. It will be very interesting if SSD has a similar one and can confirm/denywhere/when these postings/PM's originated and who may be responsible for them.

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