Ok Milo, at least speaking for myself, I agree with your first three points. The fourth one I won't address, because even though it could be true, there's no proof and its nothing but a baseless accusation at this point.
I don't like the job Doherty has done. He's a failure in my eyes. But the things he's accused of....pay-to-play politics, cronyism, lying...unfortunately are a part of politics. I would love nothing more than to get rid of cronyism in politics and actually find a politician who will tell the truth and serve the people, but the sad fact is that "politician" is synonymous with "self serving" and "liar." The almight Janet Evans included.
My problem is with the DD.com and "council crazy" loons who make this town a laughingstock. Ranting and raving incoherently, stalking, juvenile threats and vulgar insults against public officials' families is wrong, disgusting, and only serves to make you look like a bunch of uneducated jackasses. Present your points in a professional manner, and you'll be taken seriously. Also, you could try to field legitimate anti-administration candidates who are truly for the people, if they exist (i.e.-not self serving drama queens like Evans or out-of-town blowhards like Lee Morgan).
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Hi Shed, Welcome aboard. You will have to be careful here. Some actually don't like Doherty, but some can't hide the love for our favorite guy. Read the posts and you'll get a feel for who wants to play.All here just hate Pilchesky. Some don't care to come off that subject, but some are willing to at least listen and talk about issues. For all my new friends, Kettle meet Kettle. Shed is a wealth of information. Mine it and you won't be sorry.
Bill, if Shed says it, it's true. He's not one of the "dd nutcases" as some say. He's also like me and not one of the so-called "jack-asses" you refer to.
i dont come to this site to defend Doherty. I think he has f'ed up finances but so does every mayor the city has. They all play the same games. This city is not controlled by the mayor. It is controlled by others much less in th espot light. the mayor does their dirty work and gets blamed, big deal. move to nebraska.
I come to this site because i think the DD site is a train wreck and this site is few people who happen to be watching and adding commentary. Scranton has always had the Heyna or no's running around acting like they are important. Now they have a website and a leader in Joe and JAn Evens. They feel impowered and are getting ****y. It is fun watching from the sidelines and pointing out how rediculous they are. They is the Special olympics of local politics. (No offence to the brave and womderful men and women who suffer from Mental or physical dissabilities.)
Lastly, no i am not a HUGE supporter of Doherty or his admin. I think they have done some good things though.. I also think JOe is beating the **** out of a dead horse.
We will start with some small old topics...hmmm lets see we will dust off the files in the Shed...
1. Chris Doherty promised to lower taxes .01 percent per year for his 1st 4 years...he did'nt...discuss Wow a politician who thought they could cure the cities ills then got into the office and found out its not as easy as it seems.Ya that never happens, Doherty must be evil.Or. he might just be just like any other politician who has done the same thing.Name me one politician that keeps all their promises.Discuss(Oh and BTW so you wont be so shocked in the future try not to buy everything a politician sells and that includes your perfect little politician Miss Jan you will be much happier in the long run trust me)
2. The latest and second whopper of a sewer rate increase...none would have occurred if he negotiated the American Aglian Water deal...discuss...
The sewer deal was a mistake. Oh nooooooooo a mistake get the pitchforks and the torches.Name me a politician who hasnt made a mistake while in office.Discuss 3. How does a self declared fiscal conservative mayor in Scranton generate more debt than a city of 4 million people like Philadelphia? I would need to see some numbers to be able to discuss that comment.
4. And just for ****s and giggles...how do you feel about drunken Doherty appointees driving while on call at the SSA? The fact that someone drove drunk is a crime, in my opinion. The fact that they were an appointment of any Administration (including the current one) is irrelevant, unless you can prove that Mr. Doherty held down the person, ran alcohol in to their system against their will, strapped them into the car, put the car in gear and taped their foot to the gas pedal.Can you? Otherwise its no worse or no better than anyone who drives drunk.I promise that if you ever were to be pickup for the same offense (or any offense for that matter) not to blame your boss either.Fair?
Have a nice day....we should make this mayor state treasurer! Wow!
I will and thank you u2. Welcome to our board BTW.We should if he runs and wins but thats his call not mine! __________________ OLLIE'S BALLS
One more thing Shed. They like me here. I was knighted yesterday as "officially full of sh!t! Maybe you can gain the title "official a$$hole". Nah, they're actually interested in this stuff. You'll like it here. A new land to absorb and educate.
this is what i mean by getting c-o-c-k-y. You have no idea when it comes to the grand scheme of things. you guys over there can keep coming up with numbers, keep scraming from the rafters all of your hype and BS but at the end of the day you go back to your house and all those you hate go back to theirs. This will continue ad nasuem. You may catch a few fish. I give you credit for the Cordaro speed bump. Bottom line is he will be re-elected and all of your tantrums will be forgotten. Doherty is going to be fine as well. AS will all of his so-called cronies.
If you guys where outing major corruption and turning this city around as well i would be the first to commend you. But, you guys are getting laughed at and are the brunt of jokes all over. Nothing is getting accomplished and you are starting to get on everyones nerves. Tell me honestly, Fay Franus is someone who effectivly can make a change in our city by getting in to pissing contest with Judy Gatelli every week???. com on now.
And onew last thin, if you really think JAnet Evens is liked you need your head examined. I have never in my life heard of someone so disliked by people. I guess you either love her or hate her.....even people who are not governed by her have a bad taste in their mouth about her.
PS. I AM IN THE ICN AHAHHAHAH another rediculous theory imagined by a joke of a person.
Waiting to see if it eventually almost nearly happens isn't the same as documentation of some sort, is it?
No smartass it's not. I do my research and hand it over to where it counts. Sorry I don't have a scanner to post everything I say, you'll just have to trust me. If you made a statement about the city being broke and I called you on it, would you devote your day or week to prove it to me? Who am I or who are you to get that much effort. I just ask that you consider what I say and eventually a investigative agency or a court will prove me wrong. I'll give you the same courtesy in the meantime.
No scanner? Maybe you can get Joanne to lend you her scanner. She seems to have a magic scanner it can even scan errors into a document that don't seem to appear on the original. It's a marvolous instrument
I'm not asking you to post everything you have. I'm asking you to cite sources. Your word and Milo's word mean jack to me. We want proof when asked. "Trust me" has never passed for a cite here.
I trusted an anonymous person on the internet once. I'm still waiting for my $50MM check from my distant cousin who was tragically killed on theOgbama Expressway. It's been 4 years already...
this is what i mean by getting c-o-c-k-y. You have no idea when it comes to the grand scheme of things.I think I have a handle on it Tim, but thanks for youropinion.you guyssee, it's always "you guys". Can I be a small piece of something and not be lumped in with the whole bunch? Something"we" are not are a bunch of cool-aid drinking stay on message cult like followers of a scum bag. Joe doesn't tell me squat, and I don'tcontrol him either. If you really pay attention over there, a lot of heated debate go on, especially over Anti's posts. So cut out the "you guys" sh!t"over there can keep coming up with numbers, keep scraming from the rafters all of your hype and BS but at the end of the day you go back to your house and all those you hate go back to theirs.Yes andin the mean time, whether you like it or not, hundreds of people in this area read that site daily to find out what's going on.This will continue ad nasuem. Yes it will! You may catch a few fish.Watch the catch in the next few weeks. Two big fish are going down.I give you credit for the Cordaro speed bump.That was a few new players to the scene for that issue only.Bottom line is he will be re-elected and all of your tantrums will be forgotten.Your probably right about that, even though most over there disagree with me.Doherty is going to be fine as well.Doherty's only chance is getting out of here before the bottom falls out. He's never going to win as mayor again.AS will all of his so-called cronies.
If you guysthere it is againwhere outing major corruption and turning this city around as well i would be the first to commend you. But, you guysandagainare getting laughed at and are the brunt of jokes all over.Maybe in your surroundingNothing is getting accomplished I disagreeand you are starting to get on everyones nerves. Mission accomplished!Tell me honestly, Fay Franus is someone who effectivly can make a change in our city by getting in to pissing contest with Judy Gatelli every week???. I don't converse with Franus but she's exposed and caught Gatelli in many lies. Gotta give her some credit.com on now.
And onew last thin, if you really think JAnet Evens is liked you need your head examined. I have never in my life heard of someone so disliked by people. I guess you either love her or hate her.I'd have to agree with you there, but let's not let any facts get in our way. She was the high vote getter in the last election. Many more than even Doherty, which is unheard of to have a council candidate get more votes than a mayoral candidate. Like her or not, she will be a front runner in the next election. She'll be the one to beat....even people who are not governed by her have a bad taste in their mouth about her. And many more than not vote for her.
PS. I AM IN THE ICN AHAHHAHAH another rediculous theory imagined by a joke of a person.
We will start with some small old topics...hmmm lets see we will dust off the files in the Shed...
Dave,
I think we've all argued all of the points you bring up to death at dd.com.
Got anything new to discuss? Save me the trouble of retyping all of my comments on the above by searching my posts at dd.com - that is - the ones Joe hasn't deleted yet.
Shari we do not trust you ... and that is something you will have to learn to live with ... if you post it you better find a way to get the proof to one of the moderators or myself or you will be edited or the post deleted. That is the way it is ... Remember Moderators you are the ones in charge here ... Shari needs to be educated in the art of posting at PD ... you are not the administrator and you are not a moderator. So just get over your little self ... and oh by the way ... I still don't care who you are!
Just thought I would let you know!
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I want everyone to stop and think about one thing ... Joe Pilchesky is not a lawyer ... he's just a guy playing a lawyer on the internet. Please don't trust your legal needs to this man.
Hmmmmm....we have Jimbu, Shari and Shed here now. Wonder why? Oh, and Shed...sure we will play, but also be prepared to DEFEND...
...Anti's rants (ICN, Imported Jews, Jesuit conspiracies, etc.) ...Joe's claim that free speech doesn't apply at DD ...the outing of children and grandchildren ...lewd sexual inuendo being used to describe female members of council ...Janet Evan's appointment to the school board ...etc.
Oh, and if you are going to claim that you are against the more extreme elements of DD, then please prove it...just don't pull a Shari on us and make a claim that you are unwilling to back up. I'm a trusting guy, but in the immortal words of Ronald Reagan, "Trust but verify".
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this is what i mean by getting c-o-c-k-y. You have no idea when it comes to the grand scheme of things.I think I have a handle on it Tim, but thanks for youropinion.you guyssee, it's always "you guys". Can I be a small piece of something and not be lumped in with the whole bunch? Something"we" are not are a bunch of cool-aid drinking stay on message cult like followers of a scum bag. Joe doesn't tell me squat, and I don'tcontrol him either. If you really pay attention over there, a lot of heated debate go on, especially over Anti's posts. So cut out the "you guys" sh!t"over there can keep coming up with numbers, keep scraming from the rafters all of your hype and BS but at the end of the day you go back to your house and all those you hate go back to theirs.Yes andin the mean time, whether you like it or not, hundreds of people in this area read that site daily to find out what's going on.This will continue ad nasuem. Yes it will! You may catch a few fish.Watch the catch in the next few weeks. Two big fish are going down.I give you credit for the Cordaro speed bump.That was a few new players to the scene for that issue only.Bottom line is he will be re-elected and all of your tantrums will be forgotten.Your probably right about that, even though most over there disagree with me.Doherty is going to be fine as well.Doherty's only chance is getting out of here before the bottom falls out. He's never going to win as mayor again.AS will all of his so-called cronies.
If you guysthere it is againwhere outing major corruption and turning this city around as well i would be the first to commend you. But, you guysandagainare getting laughed at and are the brunt of jokes all over.Maybe in your surroundingNothing is getting accomplished I disagreeand you are starting to get on everyones nerves. Mission accomplished!Tell me honestly, Fay Franus is someone who effectivly can make a change in our city by getting in to pissing contest with Judy Gatelli every week???. I don't converse with Franus but she's exposed and caught Gatelli in many lies. Gotta give her some credit.com on now.
And onew last thin, if you really think JAnet Evens is liked you need your head examined. I have never in my life heard of someone so disliked by people. I guess you either love her or hate her.I'd have to agree with you there, but let's not let any facts get in our way. She was the high vote getter in the last election. Many more than even Doherty, which is unheard of to have a council candidate get more votes than a mayoral candidate. Like her or not, she will be a front runner in the next election. She'll be the one to beat....even people who are not governed by her have a bad taste in their mouth about her. And many more than not vote for her.
PS. I AM IN THE ICN AHAHHAHAH another rediculous theory imagined by a joke of a person.
Shari...you are wasting your breath...and time over here. Hypocrisy, and name calling is the name of the game over here. It's funny, for as much facts "we" are asked, or demandedto provide over here, after reading most of the posts here, I don't see too many facts to back up what "they" spew over here. For example, Janet Evans doesn't seem to be to popular over here, I've read many posts about her grandstanding, being not trustable, not good for the City of Scranton...blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...yet I see no facts to back any of that up, I guess that's ok though, "they" don't have to have any proof to back thier stories up...just us "nut-bags" over at DD are expected to do that.
This site is filled with nothing but a bunch of hypocrtical,whiny, gutless{Agemon or WTF your name is!}, name calling,crybabies...funny, the exact same thing they accuse "us" of over there. Darth...He feels threatened, has no facts...Grow a sack! AgaWTFyournameis...find out what a sack is, then grow one before calling others gutless!!! Paul...Boston sucks, and so do you and your lame attempts at sarcasm and humor!!! HisgalFridayorWTF...you have alot of venom and fire in your posts...y'all ask me, I ask you...where's your facts? One more question, whose "gal" you gonna be this Friday? Ihave...we've had a couple of pleasant back and forths, to bad your fellow comrades here can't follow your lead, you are truly an Eagle soaring over pigeons here. Lush...I guess it's hard to see what a hypocritical piece of crap you really are through the bottom of a beer mug. Ban me f*cktard...I'm not planning on spending a whole lot more time over here anyway.
So, go ahead you bunch of enlightened, esteemed, forum members here, have fun with this one, rip it up, laugh it up, edit the sh!t out of it, ban it, bash me until the sun sets and then beyond, I really don't give a f*ck, because as I said, this forum is filled with nothing but a bunch of hypocritical, whiny, gutless, name calling, crybabies{boo-hoo...Joe banned me!}, my time is valuable, and I don't plan on wasting much more of it here...C'ya you hypocrite bastards...and bitches!!!...Jimbu15.
P.S. Before the accusations come out, no, Joe didn't tell me not to post here, no Joe did not write this post for me, so go ahead and speculate on something else...and while your'e doing that...G-F-Y's!!! Oh! I hope I don't get banned....boo-hoo!!!
We will start with some small old topics...hmmm lets see we will dust off the files in the Shed...
1. Chris Doherty promised to lower taxes .01 percent per year for his 1st 4 years...he did'nt...discuss [Nothing to discuss. My two biggest Doherty complaints are 1) His inability to make good personnel picks and 2) his failure to rope in city finances. In fact, his budget was as much of a joke as the Janet Evans budget. Neither addressed the structural deficiencies in Scranton's finances.]
2. The latest and second whopper of a sewer rate increase...none would have occurred if he negotiated the American Aglian Water deal...discuss...[The first rate increase was a self-infliced wound on Doherty's part...the second is not his fault, at all. The EPA is demanding these changes...both here and across the country. Pittsburg is getting creamed as well. Claiming that Chris Doherty is responsible for the combined sewage/storm water system in Scrantin is like claiming that Joe Pilchesky is responsible for getting Paris Hilton out of jail..both just happened.]
3. How does a self declared fiscal conservative mayor in Scrantongenerate more debt than a city of 4 million people like Philadelphia? [Doherty should have reduced the size of Scranton's budget, period. The unions would balk and the DD crew would be beating him for cutting services, so in some respects the guy can't win. Regardless, I am a small government kind of guy, so regardless of what I think Doherty has done right, he has failed in this regard. Note that while I will break Doherty's stones over this, I will not claim that his actions are criminal; if fiscal mis-management were a crime, Jimmy Connors would be now serving 15-life.]
4. And just for ****s and giggles...how do you feel about drunken Doherty appointees driving while on call at the SSA? [Shed...prove it. If someone were to claim that Pilchesky were snorting crack, the first words out of my mouth would be the same: Prove it. We deal in facts and opinions here, not unfounded rumor. If you want to post crap like that, then do it DD where that kind of double standard nonsense is not only tolerated, but encouraged.]
Have a nice day....we should make this mayor state treasurer! Wow! [Shed...didn't you read the FACTS at DD? You know, the FACTS that said Doherty was headed for a state job RIGHT AFTER Rendell's term began. If your information on Doherty's future is half as good as the rest of the ass-bags at DD (sorry to steal your term 'ass-bag' Art), then I'd suggest you keep the political future-gazing to yourself.]
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Free Speech does't require a multi-paragrah disclaimer Mr. Pilchesky.
I can't wait to read his account of how he came over here and verbally kicked all our asses. I hope he includes dinosaurs and biplanes and quicksand in that story...
jimbu15 wrote:Jimbu I am surprised to see you in such a state I though we had gotten off to such a good first discussion.However maybe I can clear some things up for you. Shari...you are wasting your breath...and time over here. Hypocrisy, and name calling is the name of the game over here. It's funny, for as much facts "we" are asked, or demandedto provide over here, after reading most of the posts here, I don't see too many facts to back up what "they" spew over here. For example, Janet Evans doesn't seem to be to popular over here, I've read many posts about her grandstanding, being not trustable, not good for the City of Scranton...blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...yet I see no facts to back any of that up, I guess that's ok though, "they" don't have to have any proof to back thier stories up...just us "nut-bags" over at DD are expected to do that. I already told you Jimbu, sure we may call someone a jerk or something like but we certainly do not go over board and call people names that might actually have a real negative effective on them.For instance calling someone gay or a criminal, that could actually harm someone, but suggesting someone foams at the mouth like we do about Fay is completely harmless it may not be very complimentary but it is harmless.I am sure you can see the difference. If I am mistaken that we have in fact called someone a name that could potentially harm them, their family, or the livelihood please highlight itfor me as I willl promptly remove that post as inappropriate.We do not ban people but we will edit a post that is considered to be inappropriate. We have removed posts about Jan and Joey & his wife and posted immediate apologies to them for inappropriate post. Does DD.com ever do that? As to Jan you are right we do not like her actions and we have said that, again completely harmless. As to proof? Proof about what? We have accused her of nothing illegal or corrupt. We have said she grandstands so? That is our opinion of her behavior it is hardly a harmful observation.We have said she talks too much, that needs no proof its simply our impression. If you think she talks too little or just the right amount thats fine. Again that is hardly a harmful observation. Where proof was needed and provided
I have called in to question her trustworthiness, that might be harmful, so I most certainly did provide proof in my post I will restate it here. In her recent interview with the paper she denied knowing about DD web site, posting at DD.com or knowing Joey.I flat out disbelieve she knows nothing about the website. My reason for that is the following: 1. anyone in politics would know about the website, as it widely talked about in those circles both positively and negatively, 2. Jan most certainly moves through those circles and unless she is hearing impaired would have at the very least overheard comments about the site, 3. aquamg is Fay Franus (by Fays own admission we have the post to back that up). She is a close friend of Jans, surely you know Fay would have talked to her about the website and her frequent postings. Based on that evidence I do not believe her to be truthful on the issue of not knowing about DD.com. Do you believe her?I flat out disbelieve her statement that she does not know Joey. My reason is as follows 1. She first stated she did not know him and then restated that she only knew him very casually in the same article. I am very suspicious of someone who has to change their story over such an easy question. She certainly shouldnt have been too mentally challenged by the question, it was, after all, a simple question. 2. After being less than forthcoming about her knowledge of Joey she further had to acknowledge having him over for dinner. Now I ask you Jimbu how many people do you have over for dinner that you dont know. I have already said I have none over that I dont know. Therefore I have to say I found her to not be truthful about the issue of whether she knows Joey. I flat out disbelieve her denial that she does not post on DD.com. I have strong suspicion that she does post and a strong suspicion of what monikers she posts under, however, proof of that I lack. Therefore I judged this denial about posting on DD.com in the same way a Judge would decide it in a civil court hearing.If the Judge determines that anyone was not truthful during any part of their questioning the Judge may consider all of the statements made by that person to be unreliable.Based on her previous answers which I believe to be untruthful, I do not believe her to have been truthful about posting on DD.com. Do you believe her? This site is filled with nothing but a bunch of hypocrtical,whiny, gutless{Agemon or WTF your name is!}, name calling,crybabies...funny, the exact same thing they accuse "us" of over there. Darth...He feels threatened, has no facts...Grow a sack! AgaWTFyournameis...find out what a sack is, then grow one before calling others gutless!!! Paul...Boston sucks, and so do you and your lame attempts at sarcasm and humor!!! HisgalFridayorWTF...you have alot of venom and fire in your posts...y'all ask me, I ask you...where's your facts? One more question, whose "gal" you gonna be this Friday? Ihave...we've had a couple of pleasant back and forths, to bad your fellow comrades here can't follow your lead, you are truly an Eagle soaring over pigeons here. Lush...I guess it's hard to see what a hypocritical piece of crap you really are through the bottom of a beer mug. Ban me f*cktard...I'm not planning on spending a whole lot more time over here anyway. Oh my.. Such anger I though we had gotten past all that. Ok first thank you for your kind words about me. I would ask that you be a little fairer in your assessment of the rest of my fellow posters. I happen to like Agas name very much as it is a Greek thing and I love Greek history and myths.Aga can debate with best of them; you should give him a try.Art is our resident humorist (though he sure gets a run for his money from Girl and Paul both very funny as well) I hate to say this and maybe I was wrong but I think Arts posts about threats was simply to goad you people into a reaction for fun. He can certainly correct me if I am wrong, but it sure read as tongue in cheek to me.Paul needs no defending he is quite the poster and certainly is heads over me in debating facts.I must admit to a certain fondness for the Phillies, but that is probably because my family likes them, you should give Paul a shout about Boston and see what he has to say, you might be surprised.Girl? I would imagine she will be her honeys girl Thursday, Friday, and Saturday and so on. Jimbu lets not resort to sexual comment attacks they are quite unnecessary and only diminish your message. Lus is the person who when refused their right to post their opinion on DD.com decided to take action and create this home for us.I dont remember anyone crying or whining they certainly stated that they didnt like being banned but they moved on with their messages.However even if someone had whined and cried about it.. to be fair Jimbu you did quite a bit of the same when you werent able to post as soon as you wanted to over here. Remember? Now be fair how (considering how angry you were about a simple delay) would you react if you were to get banned at DD.com simply because you disagreed with Joey on an issue? So, go ahead you bunch of enlightened, esteemed, forum members here, have fun with this one, rip it up, laugh it up, edit the sh!t out of it, ban it, bash me until the sun sets and then beyond, I really don't give a f*ck, because as I said, this forum is filled with nothing but a bunch of hypocritical, whiny, gutless, name calling, crybabies{boo-hoo...Joe banned me!}, my time is valuable, and I don't plan on wasting much more of it here...C'ya you hypocrite bastards...and bitches!!!...Jimbu15. I certainly am sorry you feel like your time was wasted over her but it was your choice to come here.It will also be your choice to leave. I have already stated it many times we do not ban; we actually do allow freedom of speech here.So stay or go it will be entirely up to you. P.S. Before the accusations come out, no, Joe didn't tell me not to post here, no Joe did not write this post for me, so go ahead and speculate on something else...and while your'e doing that...G-F-Y's!!! Oh! I hope I don't get banned....boo-hoo!!! I am glad Joey hasnt spoken to you about posting over here, only time will tell if he continues to hold his silence.I do know and you confirmed it that he removed your post simply for mentioning us. So I guess time will tell.
Oh, come on. Jim can make a person laugh while berating them. I love his in your face attitude. Jim is like the enforcer over there. When he flies off the handle, it's pure adrenaline.