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1. True or False: Chris Doherty is "Importing Jews" into Scranton.

2. True or False: People of Irish decent love their property more than their children.

3. True or False: It make complete sense to get legal advice from someone who is 1 for 28 in the courtoom.

4. When witnessing a tragic fire, the right thing to do is to -
a. Comfort the neighbors
b. Offer cold drinks to the firemen
c. Stay out of the way so that firemen/EMS can do their jobs
d. Take pictures of the road in order to prove a conspiracy

5. When you are about to go to court, what should you publically say about the judge that may hear your case -
a. "He is a qualified jurist"
b. "I have had some disagreements with him in the past"
c. "He is a closet homosexual having an affair with a state legislator"
d. Nothing...it's best to keep your mouth shut

6. True or False: There is a vast conspiracy in Scranton involving people of Irish decent who scheme to disenfranchise other citizens.

7. True or False: It was simply a coincidence that Janet Evans got a full time teaching position while serving on the same School Board that hires full time teachers.

8. True or False: Claiming that Chris Doherty is responsible for a suicide is an appropriate Christmas/New Years message board topic.

9. True or False: Judy Gatelli can force the police to stalk Sam Patilla's home (even though she can't get an officer to remove him from the speaker's podium during a council meeting).

10. Who is LusOnlyVoice?
a. A Brazil (any one will do...)
b. Someone who also goes by the nickname 'Gibby Joe'
c. The Administrator of the Pilchesky Deceit Message Board
d. A Jesuit who is conspiring with Louis DeNaples to rule the world (or at least Scranton and Dunmore)





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o o o o can I take the quiz? come on please!! IknowI never posted on that nut board but I still know the answers I do!! please please

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While I do not worship anyone, I'll play!

1. False
2. Probably false but sometimes I wonder. (and it's not restricted to Irish)
3. Who gets legal advice from Joe? Anyway, plug in the fact that a few judges did an "end run" around him and did him in on "standing", that didn't diminish the true issue. they just ignored the issue and side stepped it.
4. E. all of the above
5. depends on which judge you're about to face. All could apply.
6. Not as much as "Anti" seems to think, but ethnic-centrism in voting is still alive and well, unfortunately.
7. not sure
8. If the shoe fits.
9. If you listened closely, Pitilla (sp?) never accused Gatelli of having that cop there. He was accusing Doherty of doing it.In her normal paranoid way, sheassumed he was talking abouther. She tends to open her mouth before she thinks. She definitely NEVER listens intently.
10. c, from what I read here.

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Now if I go by the Doherty Deceit Web Site the answers would be as follows (but not necessarily right)

1. Chris Doherty according to the crazy rants of Jim Davis is importing Jews
2. Again according to the crazy rants of Jim Davis the Irish do love property more than their children ...
3. Who else has as much experience as losing ... maybe Joe can tell everyone what the hell not to do.
4. According to Joe ... you should run into that burning building even though you are not experienced in firefighting ... but if you can't do that then what the hell ... grab your camera and start snapping pictures.
5. You should say he is a homosexual ... even if you have no real proof ... as long as a friend of a friend of a friend told you it must be true ... right?
6. Well this one must be true ... you know how we Irish are ... according to the crazy rants of one Jim Davis ... cause if he said it it must be true ... right?
7. According to all of the posters at DD she was the most qualified person for the job ... it does not matter that she was a sitting director at the time. RIGHT?
8. According to the DD site it is more than appropriate to put it on the WWW the story of a suicide and to blame the mayor for said suicide ... that is totally appropriate to cause further dispair for the family ... right???
9.I know it's true when it comes out of Patilla's mouth ... that's enough said on that because he knows Scranton better than someone who was born and raised here.
10. Well on this one I would have to say that I am all of the above ... because that's what the DD posters have been saying since the day I started this place ... Right?


Well Ag you will have to grade my quiz just keep in mind I did not answer truthfully I answered he DohertyDeceit way!

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I'm sorry Sherri, but I'm affraid that you don't qualify as a full lledged DD Nut-Bag, although you may have some tendencies.

A few comments on your answers...

1. Anti had a nice little rant about imported jews (we have it saved). Funny, NO ONE on DD called on the carpet for it either. I wonder why?

2. You get credit for at least using the word 'false'. If I substituted the word 'Irish' with, for example, 'Black People' I'm sure that many reasonable people would consider the statement to be racist. Funny, but in the world of DD Groupthink, it's okay to be racist...as long as you are racist about the people Joe Pilchesky doesn't like.

3. Pilchesky offers legal advice all the time...as you said, "if the shoe fits". Oh, and I do think Pilcheksy has raised some important issues (Southside Complex for example), but he has poisoned the well with "Give Me All The Personal Dirt On ___________" types of postings. Oh, I forgot, he usually changes "personal" to "professional" after the initial posting has been up for a day or so.

4. There is no E. People died in that fire, and Pilchesky used the tragedy as a cannon ball against people he simply does not like. Quite simply, that's some sick $hit.

5. I was taught that in a civilized society we respect people in authority, even if we disagree with them. For example, I respect the office of the President, even if I disagree with the policies of George W. Bush. The fallacy of DD is that "the end justifies the means"...but that's the same flawed logic that nut-bags throughout history have used as an explanation for all sorts of horrible acts. Disagree with the policies of Chris Doherty is one thing (I disagree with many of his policies), but writing things simply to harm him and his family (which Pilchesky has done...case in point the entire Doherty affair series) is another.

6. I agree that there is some ethno-centric voting in Scranton (and in New York, and in Philadelphia, and in Chicago...), but it dimishes each year as the 'old guard' fads away. However the question wasn't about voting habits...it was about a conspiracy. Do you believe in the ICN conspiracy Sherry? If you do, wanna buy a bridge???? biggrin Here's my theory - Conspiracies are used by some people to control the weak-minded...those too feeble minded to think on their own.

7. As you said, "If the shoe fits". The facts are this: she was on the school board and she got appointed at the same time. At the very least it's conflict of interest, at most it's a shameful example of what Pilchesky and his like decry as "Scranton politics as usual". Pick your poison Sherry.

8. That's just wrong, period. Speaking as someone who has had two people close to me attempt suicide, I can tell you that severe depression is a medical problem, not a political one. Pilchesky should be ashamed of that entire thread.

9. I did listen carefully and I did hear him claim that Judy was responsible. If you can provide a transcript that says something to the contrary I will gladly admit I am wrong, but until then I'll go with my 43 year old ears.

10. Ding! By the way, as you seem to be a DDer, who exactly is 'Gibby Joe' anyway?



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I'm sorry Sherri, but I'm affraid that you don't qualify as a full lledged DD Nut-Bag, although you may have some tendencies.

A few comments on your answers...

1. Anti had a nice little rant about imported jews (we have it saved). Funny, NO ONE on DD called on the carpet for it either. I wonder why? Anti brings a lot to the discussion over there, he's well read, but personally I think he's too let wing for me. We've gone at it in PM's, numerous times over what I felt was over the top opinions. But hey, everyone is entitled to there opinion. I learn a lot from his posts, even though I don't entirely agree on certain things. By the way,Jim Davis? You guys are way off on your identity of him.

2. You get credit for at least using the word 'false'. If I substituted the word 'Irish' with, for example, 'Black People' I'm sure that many reasonable people would consider the statement to be racist. Funny, but in the world of DD Groupthink, it's okay to be racist...as long as you are racist about the people Joe Pilchesky doesn't like.The biggest problem I have with your posts here is lumping everyone at DD together. I'm sure some posters havemade sense to you or am I wrong? Have you not agreed with some issues presented there? Please don't tell me all 7 of you are blinded by the cool-aid.

3. Pilchesky offers legal advice all the time...as you said, "if the shoe fits". Oh, and I do think Pilcheksy has raised some important issues (Southside Complex for example), but he has poisoned the well with "Give Me All The Personal Dirt On ___________" types of postings. Oh, I forgot, he usually changes "personal" to "professional" after the initial posting has been up for a day or so.Joe will always take civil debate in stride. As soon as they attack him personally and not attack his message and/or issues, all hell breaks loose. I don't blame him. It's really disgusting what his family has been through from Doherty and his supporters. truly disgusting. They created Joe, not the other way around. Frankly, Joe takes a lot more crap than I ever would. You'd be appalled what's been done to him or has been threatened to be done.

4. There is no E. People died in that fire, and Pilchesky used the tragedy as a cannon ball against people he simply does not like. Quite simply, that's some sick $hit. They spun the incident from the beginning to save face. Joe jumped on it. Read the huge thread that morning. It was a real time blow for blow of that tragic fire. The city officials are scum for what they said.

5. I was taught that in a civilized society we respect people in authority, even if we disagree with them.That's where we part ways. I don't respect anyone who doesn't respect the citizens they represent.For example, I respect the office of the President, even if I disagree with the policies of George W. Bush.The "office of president" doesn'tget our kids killed in Iraq because of a lie, the president does. He gets no respect from me. The fallacy of DD is that "the end justifies the means"...but that's the same flawed logic that nut-bags throughout history have used as an explanation for all sorts of horrible acts.Chris Doherty taught us well, didn't he?Disagree with the policies of Chris Doherty is one thing (I disagree with many of his policies), but writing things simply to harm him and his family (which Pilchesky has done...case in point the entire Doherty affair series) is another.See above

6. I agree that there is some ethno-centric voting in Scranton (and in New York, and in Philadelphia, and in Chicago...), but it dimishes each year as the 'old guard' fads away.Hopefully, that mindset will disappear entirely.However the question wasn't about voting habits...it was about a conspiracy. Do you believe in the ICN conspiracy Sherry?There's a small amount of truth to that. Much smaller than most think, in my opinionIf you do, wanna buy a bridge???? biggrin Here's my theory - Conspiracies are used by some people to control the weak-So is perception through the media minded...those too feeble minded to think on their own.

7. As you said, "If the shoe fits". The facts are this: she was on the school board and she got appointed at the same time.No, I believe she resigned when appointed, but I'm not positive about that.At the very least it's conflict of interest,No it's not. If she was on the list, shehad every right as all otherson that list to be appointed. at most it's a shameful example of what Pilchesky and his like decry as "Scranton politics as usual".Chris Doherty has brought "politics as usual" to a vicious and dirty level, not seen in decades.Pick your poison Sherry.

8. That's just wrong, period. Speaking as someone who has had two people close to me attempt suicide, I can tell you that severe depression is a medical problem, not a political one. Pilchesky should be ashamed of that entire thread.

9. I did listen carefully and I did hear him claim that Judy was responsible.Sorry, you're incorrect.If you can provide a transcript that says something to the contrary I will gladly admit I am wrong,I would, but since Doherty cut the budget of city council and downsized them, it takes months to get transcripts of current meetings.but until then I'll go with my 43 year old ears.fair enough.

10. Ding! By the way, as you seem to be a DDer, who exactly is 'Gibby Joe'
anyway?That tag refers to Joe Gibbons. The PR guy Chris Doherty hired to "drive the story" and that YOU pay for.

Hey, that was fun!




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Alright...I'm game, probably won't be a big surprise to anyone here, but I was a "C" average in school...tests and quizzes really aren't my thing.

1. IMO...False.
2. Don't know, I'm not Irish.
3. Not taking legal advice from anyone...why, do I need some?
4. I have to agree with Shari..."E"...all of the above.
5. Again, don't know, I've never been to court.
6. I would definately say there is some smoke there...you know what they say...where there's smoke, there's fire.
7. I guess anything is possible...but I highly doubt it.
8. Was he?
9. Revisit Mr. P's words...he dropped the name DOHERTY, not GATELLI.
10. "E"...I'll keep my opinion of that to myself...FOR NOW.

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Shari,

I disagree with many of your responses...especially the "poor Joe Pilchesky, the mayor is picking on him" stuff (for example I have yet to read something written by the Mayor claiming that Pilchesky is having an extra-marital affair OR that Pilchesky was the cause of a suicide)...but I give you credit for disagreeing in a civil manner. That's the difference between here and DD...we can disagree and be civil here...at DD if you don't toe the line you are banned, censored or called all manner of vile names.

As for lumping all the DD people together, I am guilty, but with reason: rarely (if never) does anyone challenge Anti in a public forum over his RACIST rants. Imported Jews? How about his claim that the Scranton police are targeting minorities? I applaud you if you have called him on that via PMs, but why not in the open DD forum? It's for that reason that the DD folks are lumped together. Groupthink is alive and well at DD.

Oh, and thank you for solving the mystery of 'Gibby Joe'.


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I'm sorry Sherri, but I'm affraid that you don't qualify as a full lledged DD Nut-Bag, although you may have some tendencies.

A few comments on your answers...

1. Anti had a nice little rant about imported jews (we have it saved). Funny, NO ONE on DD called on the carpet for it either. I wonder why?

2. You get credit for at least using the word 'false'. If I substituted the word 'Irish' with, for example, 'Black People' I'm sure that many reasonable people would consider the statement to be racist. Funny, but in the world of DD Groupthink, it's okay to be racist...as long as you are racist about the people Joe Pilchesky doesn't like.

3. Pilchesky offers legal advice all the time...as you said, "if the shoe fits". Oh, and I do think Pilcheksy has raised some important issues (Southside Complex for example), but he has poisoned the well with "Give Me All The Personal Dirt On ___________" types of postings. Oh, I forgot, he usually changes "personal" to "professional" after the initial posting has been up for a day or so.

4. There is no E. People died in that fire, and Pilchesky used the tragedy as a cannon ball against people he simply does not like. Quite simply, that's some sick $hit.

5. I was taught that in a civilized society we respect people in authority, even if we disagree with them. For example, I respect the office of the President, even if I disagree with the policies of George W. Bush. The fallacy of DD is that "the end justifies the means"...but that's the same flawed logic that nut-bags throughout history have used as an explanation for all sorts of horrible acts. Disagree with the policies of Chris Doherty is one thing (I disagree with many of his policies), but writing things simply to harm him and his family (which Pilchesky has done...case in point the entire Doherty affair series) is another.

6. I agree that there is some ethno-centric voting in Scranton (and in New York, and in Philadelphia, and in Chicago...), but it dimishes each year as the 'old guard' fads away. However the question wasn't about voting habits...it was about a conspiracy. Do you believe in the ICN conspiracy Sherry? If you do, wanna buy a bridge???? biggrin Here's my theory - Conspiracies are used by some people to control the weak-minded...those too feeble minded to think on their own.

7. As you said, "If the shoe fits". The facts are this: she was on the school board and she got appointed at the same time. At the very least it's conflict of interest, at most it's a shameful example of what Pilchesky and his like decry as "Scranton politics as usual". Pick your poison Sherry.

8. That's just wrong, period. Speaking as someone who has had two people close to me attempt suicide, I can tell you that severe depression is a medical problem, not a political one. Pilchesky should be ashamed of that entire thread.

9. I did listen carefully and I did hear him claim that Judy was responsible. If you can provide a transcript that says something to the contrary I will gladly admit I am wrong, but until then I'll go with my 43 year old ears.

10. Ding! By the way, as you seem to be a DDer, who exactly is 'Gibby Joe' anyway?



-- Edited by Agamemnon at 21:33, 2007-06-05



Hey Aga...respect those in authority whether you agree with them or not?!?!?!!? YOU are a wuss!!! Haveyou ever stood up and challenged anything in your life besides anyomous, nutbags like me? Do you think our "esteemed" President respects you? Respect is a two way street idiot! It's a damn good thing our founding fathers didn't have that same wuss mentality, we'd still be part of England...heh bloke?...Jimbu15.



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Amazing Jimbu...in less than one semi-coherent paragraph you've managed to live down to the low expectations we've set for you.

High Five Dude!!

For example, I said that I respect the office of the President, not the man himself. For God's sake, if you are going to slam me, please at least pick something where you get the basic facts correct.



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The filth that has been thrown at Joe is incredible. He doesn't disclose most of it. I've had about a dozen conversations with him since the inception of his site and I've seen the mail, the damage to his home and car and what they've been through. Remember something. Joe supported Doherty in the council race and his first mayoral race. Joe just didn't wake up one day and decide he was going to devote his life to ending Doherty's political career. Doherty started this. Not him personally, but one of his incompetent employees, but he's in charge. The captain goes down with the ship. As things progressed, the viciousness of this regime became evident. Again, Doherty created Joe and they like to bitch about it now. On another note, why do you think there's a "legion of doom"? Why all the civil unrest? Was this just a phenomenon of nature or did something or someone cause this to happen? You never saw anything like this before with any prior mayor. There's a reason for it, don't you think? Cause and effect.

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Agamemnon wrote:

Amazing Jimbu...in less than one semi-coherent paragraph you've managed to live down to the low expectations we've set for you.

High Five Dude!!

For example, I said that I respect the office of the President, not the man himself. For God's sake, if you are going to slam me, please at least pick something where you get the basic facts correct.



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Obviously you didn't set them low enough!!!

LOW TWO AND A HALF...DOUCHE!!!...Jimbu15.



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Shari,

So what you are saying is that since Pilchesky has been wronged, he is allowed to do or say anything?

I hold Mayor Doherty accountable for (among other things) his abysmal personnel choices and his failure to negotiate reasonable union contracts.

But I hold Pilchesky accountable for the postings at his site that include things like blaming the Mayor for a suicide, stalking Nealon-Fanucci, vile sexual induendo directed at Judy Gatelli, etc.

Shari, the end does not justify the means, not for Chris Doherty and certainly not for Joe Pilchesky. Blame Doherty where warranted, but please don't be so intellectually dishonest as to excuse Pilchesky's actions...you seem far too intelligent for that.



ps...I'd respond to Jimbu, but I think he is doing more than enough on his own to prove my point.


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I'm just telling you, you may not understand what motivates him. This is awful what's going on. You need to understand that Doherty and his kind have attacked people with more viciousness than what's been thrown at him. These are not nice people. They try to crush anyone who gets in their way. They taught us to up the ante in this fight. No one wanted this. dd.com is a direct result to counter what they started.



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Yikes! That really sounds like what my kids say "they started it first" " they did it too" Sherri ask yourself one question.

If this really started as Joey claims over a ramp for his handicapped Father-in-law. If Joey is as he presents himself --- the big tough guy--- a guy who so far doesn't seem to be able to take no for answer on any issue. Tell me why didn't he just go ahead and build the damn ramp and then fight the fight over it in court. You have to know he could have won that one. A vet, sick, needing a ramp? Please!! It would never have gone to court. So tell me why didn't he? Why let the old man languish and jump on this crazy train he has been riding? What is the true story here? That ramp story has so many holes in it it could strain pasta.

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Motivations are 'soft', meaning that they can be faked and can't be proven one way or another.

Actions are 'hard'; for example, 'NotADumbBlonde' refers to Judy Gatelli performing a sex act on someone else and Joe Pilchesky allows (and encourages) it.

Pilchesky may very well be have been somehow wronged, so I understand taking action & I don't have an issue with that; my issue is with the fact that he works hard at hurting innocent people (such as the family of Chris Doherty, such as the family of Judy Gatelli, etc.). You can claim that the Mayor has done all manner of harmful things to Joe Pilchesky, but I don't see evidence to that affect (all I have is your word); I do, however, see the postings at DD.



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That's right Ihave, they started it first and continue it constantly. We just fight back. And the "old man" died before he could build it. During the fight. Would that motivate me to do as Joe does? Damn right it would. What the site has evolved to today, is what Joe stumbled upon while he was in that original fight. More and more info came to light and he decided to fight back. Once the site was established, many brought info to him. He doesn't cook all this up himself, it's delivered to him because of his willingness to fight.

aga, Doherty receives what he gives out. Again, he started this **** and/or his supporters. Collateral damage is a fact of war. This, unforunately, isa direct result of their actions.People have been threatened with their jobs, family members have been threatened on behalf of what someone did or said and once the rules of the game have been established by THEM, WE respond accordingly. I personally do not attack a family member of someone I disagree with. I attack them as they attack us. If they attacked my family, I would respond in-kind. They did, he does.

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That's right Ihave, they started it first and continue it constantly. We just fight back. And the "old man" died before he could build it. During the fight.


Oh for heavens sake..... how long do you think it takes to put up a ramp? It's not rocket science. We had a family member severly injured in an accident they were and will remain wheelchair bound forever. We had the ramp up and installed in about 45-1 hour. It comes assembled. We never asked for permission as it never occured to us it might be denied. We haven't heard a word since we put it up. If you buy that ramp story he is telling you I have a bridge to sell you too. I don't know what your "real story" is but you are way to smart to buy that ramp nonsense. I don't know what your mission is here, but it certainly isn't to enlighten us. I do know that you have a personal stake in this as your passion is too high for it to not be personal for you.

In closing how is that since you set such store by taking everything to court, and God knows Joey can't stay out of the court house for ten minutes, we haven't seen any police reports, lawsuits, or criminal charges pertaining to all this "stuff" he claims has happened? You said it if he remains silentI guess I have to assume he has nothing to work with or to show?




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It's my understanding Joe was/is a contractor. You don't build anything without proper permits or permission because you could lose your license. He did start to appeal the WRONG decision made by Wallace and his father-in-law passed away before it was final. That's what started the ball rolling. The rest is history. I'm sure you'll figure out my motives and who I am, not my real name but on DD.com. if you haven't already. I am motivated and I am pissed. I'd like to turn your site into another Doherty bashing site. I'll tell you the truth as i know it and eventually you'll understand. that's why I'm here. I believe one or two of you understand perfectly already, but a favor or two will keepthem from bashing Doherty. To each is own. My M.O. is not to turn all of you around. My M.O. is to make a few of you think about what the repercussions are for regular people in their support of a corrupt *******. If I can make themlose some sleep and impart some guilt on them, I've accomplished something. I'm right because of what I know. Besides, a good debate is fun. I enjoy it.

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Have we all ever heard of the ADA ... that's why the city would not turn down a person that requests a handicap ramp ... what the hell did Joey ask them to come out an build it for him ... was it some sort of super ramp that couldn't be built in a day or two ... what the hell kind of ramp are we talking about here????

I am with IHave ... build the ramp ... and face the consequences later ... the ADA is what the win would have been for him there ... there are very specific laws that pertain to the Handicapped ... but since you both (Joe and yourself) know so much about the law ... well ding dong ring that bell ... you would have had a surefire winner this time!

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So let me summarize:

Pilchesky
Wasn't allowed to build a ramp and then was subject to all manner of harassment from supporters of Chris Doherty...although there is NO PROOF of the harassment. All we have is the word of Pilchesky & a few supporters.

Opponents of Pilchesky
Some of whom are incompetent politicians, are accused of having extra-marital affairs, of being the direct cause of a suicide, of illegal acts, of striving to keep people in jail, etc. Pilchesky allows, encourages and participates in the accusations, no matter how outrageous, not matter how much they harm the innocent families of those involved.

Shari, if someone denys you something...rightfully or not...that doesn't give you license to do anything and everything in retribution. Consequently, Pilchesky can ch
ange the tone of this debate RIGHT NOW by simply keeping the DD site focused on the official actions of elected officials. He will not though, as it's gone too far. He now fancies himself a super-hero, and as such, he needs to build up super-villians to fight. It would be funny if it were not for the pain inflicted on the families (including the children) of those involved.

Shari, I respect your right to voice an opinion and I appreciate your doing it in a civil manner. But with all due respect, you side-step the issue of the harm inflicted by Pilchesky and his supporters on the innocent families of Chris Doherty, Judy Gatelli and others. That's just plain wrong, and that's at the center of this debate.


One last bit of free advice for Pilchesky and his loyal sheep: Take a few days and read Moby Dick by Herman Melville.

"They think me mad--Starbuck does; but I'm demoniac, I am madness maddened! That wild madness that's only calm to comprehend itself!"

Pilchesky could learn a lot from Captain Ahab.


-- Edited by Agamemnon at 08:14, 2007-06-06

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Joanne, I mean Sherri, you seem like a nice enough lady, but you're obviously enthralled by Joe. You have to ignore an awful lot of name calling, unfounded accusations and outright sensationalism to be an active supporter of Joe Pilchesky. Any good he may be trying to do is offset by his caveman antics and hateful message board hosting. He puts it right on the home page of his site - "He is the one directly responsible for everything on the site."

Sadly, for him that means verbal attacks, vandalism threats, etc. You know, all of the things that politicians must endure on a daily basis. Joe may not be running for office, but he has immersed himself into the very same political waters.

Many people have done what Joe is doing, and some have been successful. Very few have done it with his level of thoughtlessness, recklessness and outright bullying. His passive-aggressive style is is the stuff clinical studies are made of. He may be able to whip the basic malcontent into a frenzy, but people with values and judgment will always be skeptical. Joe lives in a world he created for himself. When all is said and done, he will have not (and to this point has not) accomplished anything except making himself known to the public and stepping on some toes.

For better or worse Scranton politics matches on, unaffected by Joe. Actually, the argument could be made that he's made the cause he pursues less attainable by his actions. He's forcing people to rethink the rules, and, have no doubt, those rules will be re-written to suit the office holder, not the activist. That will be Joe's legacy. It's hardly what he set out to do. IMHO.

-- Edited by Art Gordon at 08:15, 2007-06-06

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Aga,
The only side stepping going on yourover simplification of the issues which caused what is happening now. I'm trying to make you understand this in a more complex, non-Scranton Times way. We could debate these issues till the cows come home, but until each party can comprehend what the other is saying, only then may agreement be found. I hear what you're saying, I don't agree with everything some posters, (including Pilchesky) posts. but I am only responsible for my own actions. I try to correct false posts "over there" and always have. And I'm here to correct some of your perceptions on some issues, that clearly you and others are wrong about.

And Art? "JoAnn"????? Did Paul tell you that? Coming from a guy who's list is about 10% accurate, I'd leave the guessing to yourself. I'm sure you'll fair much better than Paul at the guessing game. Trust me. ;)

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Well I think I know who you might be shari, If I am correct Sherri Lewis was know as Lambchop and well bo peep has a picture of a lamb so i put 2 and 2 together and got 4..... now as to who bo peep is well I have a few hunches but no definite proof so i will stay quiet on this one.thanks

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4. There is no E. People died in that fire, and Pilchesky used the tragedy as a cannon ball against people he simply does not like. Quite simply, that's some sick $hit. They spun the incident from the beginning to save face. Joe jumped on it. Read the huge thread that morning. It was a real time blow for blow of that tragic fire. The city officials are scum for what they said.






And of course, it comes out recently that the most likely person to blame for the tragic death of that poor child is the scumbag mother, who tested positive for drugs. http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/site/index.cfm?newsid=18390908&BRD=2185&PAG=461&dept_id=415898&rfi=8
Maybe if she wasn't passed out from a coke binge, she would have gotten her kids out. Even if she wasn't high at the time, just the fact that she stayed sleeping while her young children were there is pathetic. Also, anyone who is a parent and uses illegal drugs is scum.

But, since there is now nothing to blame Chris Doherty, George Parker, Ray Hayes, Mark Seitzinger, Bob Mellow, Father Pilarz, Louie DeNaples, Judy Gatelli, et al, for, Joe and his goons are surprisingly quiet on this issue. Why aren't they in an outrage over a child dying as a result of pi$s-poor parenting?




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It's my understanding Joe was/is a contractor. You don't build anything without proper permits or permission because you could lose your license.
Dear there is no building required as I stated in my last post.You call the people who sell them, they quote a price, if you agree, they come, ramp in hand, attach it your entrance way, you say thank you and they leave it took 45-1 hour for the whole installation process. If any permits were necessary that would be the responsibility of the installer. I have already stated it never even crossed our minds to seek permission and no one ever said a word about the ramp to this day. I have a strong suspicion there was a much bigger project going on at that time.I strongly suspect the ramp was a very small part of whatever else was really going on. Perhaps the ramp addition was supposed to deflect attention from the real project could that be the truth?I dont know, so I am just asking. Maybe the project got out of hand? Was the problem because the great carpenter needed to build it himself to prove his prowess?How big was he building it, for Heavens sake, was it a ramp as big as airplane landing strip? I have many questions about the ramp story so should you unless, of course, you know the real story and cant share it?Actually I am wondering if you have already reveled the real reason for Joeys one-man quest for the Holy Grail Remember something. Joe supported Doherty in the council race and his first mayoral race. Joe just didn't wake up one day and decide he was going to devote his life to ending Doherty's political career. those are your words from a previous thread.So is that the real story.. that Joey supported Mr. Doherty thinking he was going to receive some kind of favor or pay back and he didnt get what he wanted? I am just asking as I dont know anything for sure, of course. Surely Joey and you should know that politicians often promise everything to everyone and seldom can fulfill a1/10 of their promises. You surely couldnt have been surprised or disappointed by that fact could you? These things happen, for instance, when Little Miss Jan ran for School Board she promised to be for the peopleand act accordingly but in reality she grabbed the first job that came her way left the people to fend for themselves.Well, she is after all a politician so I guess no surprise there! So again I state the ramp story just doesnt pass the sniff test.If thats your story and you are sticking to it fine, that is, of course, your preoperative. However, while it may be selling to the gullible or those who are just looking for a reason to be angry, it is not getting bought by me not now not ever, I never bought it from day one.
He did start to appeal the WRONG decision made by Wallace and his father-in-law passed away before it was final. That's what started the ball rolling. The rest is history. I'm sure you'll figure out my motives and who I am, not my real name but on DD.com. if you haven't already. I am motivated and I am pissed. I'd like to turn your site into another Doherty bashing site.
I think you will wait a long time for this site to become a mirror of your home site.the sad thing is you (and some of the others) may actually have had some legitimate issues but you have so overshadowed your real message with the rhetoric and hatred it no longer has any appeal to me.I am willing to say the rest of us here feel the same way.Remember the Movie Jerry McGuire (sp)? Remember when it was said you had me at hello well you guys lost me at hello.My first impression of your hero was that disgusting news letter he put out directly before the election.It spurred me to withhold my vote (and the votes of others I shared the info with) from Mr. Dibileo were it was going and hand it to Mr. Doherty.So that is what your hero inspired in me, revulsion, disgust and an action not the action I would think Joey was hoping for, however.

I'll tell you the truth as i know it and eventually you'll understand. Thats why I'm here.
As anyone can tell you a story always has three sides; my side, your side, and the truth. I am not interested in the truth as you know it just as I am unwilling to say the truth as I know it.I would be interested in the plain truth and that I believe would be anything which is backed up with proof.Frankly, if any of the people who DD regularly bash on their site actually did of what they have been rumored to have done, they would be sitting in prison.To date I am not even aware of them getting so much as a parking ticket.
I believe one or two of you understand perfectly already, but a favor or two will keep them from bashing Doherty. To each is own. My M.O. is not to turn all of you around. My M.O. is to make a few of you think about what the repercussions are for regular people in their support of a corrupt *******. If I can make them lose some sleep and impart some guilt on them, I've accomplished something. I'm right because of what I know.
You think you are right because of what you say you know. Someday you may be able to prove that to me but only if I see proof verifiable proof, which if it does exist should by now have already been put in the hands of the authorities. Why hasnt it?
Besides, a good debate is fun. I enjoy it.
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And Art? "JoAnn"????? Did Paul tell you that? Coming from a guy who's list is about 10% accurate, I'd leave the guessing to yourself. I'm sure you'll fair much better than Paul at the guessing game. Trust me. ;)

Forget about my guess as to who you are - I was just trying to get a rise out of you. Focus on the rest of my post. I'd much rather hear your thoughts on that then try to convince me who you are or are not in real life. What name do you post under over there - I'd like to read your posts to see exactly how sincere you're being about calling out false posts.


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Wasn't it reported that Pilchesky didn't register to vote in Lackawanna County until around 2002 or so, and only voted in the last 5 elections?

What kind of "supporter" doesn't even vote for the candidate they are "supporting"?

Even assuming that the support was there before, I'm not buying that it evaporated because a ramp permit was denied. Someone got screwed over or wasn't rewarded properly enough and got pissy, sounds like.

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Art Gordon wrote:

And Art? "JoAnn"????? Did Paul tell you that? Coming from a guy who's list is about 10% accurate, I'd leave the guessing to yourself. I'm sure you'll fair much better than Paul at the guessing game. Trust me. ;)

Forget about my guess as to who you are - I was just trying to get a rise out of you. Focus on the rest of my post. I'd much rather hear your thoughts on that then try to convince me who you are or are not in real life. What name do you post under over there - I'd like to read your posts to see exactly how sincere you're being about calling out false posts.





I'd say its a safe bet that "sharilewis" is none other than "bo peep." With Shari Lewis being the creator of the show "Lamb Chop," and the fact that sharilewis and bo peepmisspell Sam Patilla's name as "Pitilla."

If bopeep is indeed a city employee, she/he/it is not earning their money...get to work bo peep, that's what you're being paid to DO.



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Ihave,
You are very good at inventing ideas to place within the debate. Try not to assume anything to justify your defense on a subject. Except my post for what they are, whether agreeing with them or not, don't pussy foot around the subject or my info will end. I'm sure you won't be devastated, but I have something to say and I thought your site was for the search of truth. One thing I was misinformed about. This site could care less about the corruption of the Doherty regime. All you want to hear is about Pilchesky. Well folks, Pilchesky cannot raise your taxes, or destroy the city or have a severe impact on your life. Maybe I should just go away and leave you 7 alone.

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