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Attorney Cashuric,

I see that you have posted approximately three dozen times at the Joe Pilchesky message board. That level of posting activity puts you far above what one would expect from a causual visitor to that site, so I'll take the liberty of calling you a DohertyDeceit regular. Mind you I don't have a problem with you, Joe Pilchesky or anyone else criticizing the public actions of the Mayor or any other elected official. I do, however, have a problem with someone running for public office supporting a message board that has, among other things:

1. Blamed the Mayor for a suicide
2. Accused the Mayor of having an extra-marital affair
3. 'Outed' the children and grandchildren of elected officials
4. Used vile and disgusting names, many with overt sexual overtones, to describe elected officials
5. Encouraged the stalking of elected officials
6. Used the nobel right to 'free speech' as cover for hate speech

I could go on, but I think the point has been made.

Attorney Cashuric, you can either dissent against Mayor Doherty, Controller Mellow, etc. in a manner befitting the elected official you desire to be OR you can continue to actively support a website that is little more than a place where the lowest common denominator of behavior is actively encouraged (as long as it is targeted against people Joseph Pilchesky doesn't like).

I respectfully ask that you explain why you continue to support the Pilchesky message board. You can register and post a reply or you can reply to my personal e-mail account (steve_g1964@hotmail.com).

I await your response.






-- Edited by Agamemnon at 06:36, 2007-05-14

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Ag ... I wanted to be sure that Attorney Cashuric had the opportunity to see your letter ... I felt that it was important for you to have your answers ... so ... and I hope that you do not mind ... in order to assure that he saw this letter I have forwarded it to his e-mail address. glenncashuric@comcast.net

Hopefully he will respond ...

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Lus,

I was debating about whether or not to send it to him directly, but I decided on doing it here because I wanted the whole thing out in the public arena. My only regret is that I didn't catch the typo I just fixed.

Anyway, thanks for forwarding it to him. If he does reply I'll post that here (unless he specifically asks otherwise).



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His response will speak volumes about what he really thinks is going on over there. I for one will base my decision whether or not to vote for him based on that response. One ounce of defending the psychotic behavior of the animals on that site and I will actually begin a campaign against him. He'd better think long and hard about his answer.

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I recall reading Cashuric's postings on DD from way back, and I do not believe he is a Pilchesky follower. In fact, he seemed more often than not to disagree with the DD regulars. He kind of posted as an outsider looking in, ane maybe once in a while he would find something he agreed with over there, but for the most part I would say that Glenn had a dissenting opinion over there. He didn't strike me as a Doherty or Mellow fan, but he wasn't a Joe P-Janet kool aid drinker either.

Personally, I think Glenn is worth a vote. I see no good reason to vote for Mellow or McDowell. Roger McDowell, maybe, Ken McDowell, no.

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I don't know the man ... actually I think and it is only my opinion that this particular Primary has been very quiet ... not much being said at all about anything.

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DD sure does take up a whole lot of space and time to say as little as they do, don't they?

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Attorney Cashuric did respond, and it is pasted below.

Hi, Steve.

I appreciate the question. My membership on pilcheskydeceit is still pending, so please feel free to copy my response.

I am not a casual visitor to DohertyDeceit. It is the only widely-read political board in the region, for better or for worse, and I read it fervently. My original purpose for visiting the site was to challenge the pro-DiBileo posters to defend their candidate, who, I felt, had not offered any platform for mayor and had actually squandered his opportunity to become mayor. My views are well-stated in the archives concerning the 2005 mayoral race and the 2006 state representative race. But if you look closely, I discourage anything libelous or character-driven, and feel that someones private life, if lawful, is off-limits. I was against the outing of the McTiernan affair, the exposure of Judy Gatellis personal life, and the sexual references, which I found demeaning and out of place. It is all there. The only individual against whom I have made a personal remark is Bob Cordaro, who, I believe, has become one of the most corrupt politicians in the history of the county. Regardless of how one feels about the Yankees, the courthouse renovations, or the righting of the county ship, I have seen first-hand that cronyism and sweetheart deals have never been more prevalent than over the past four years.

I support any message board involved in shining light on the areas political activities, but I do not shy away from letting the posters (and Joe himself) know when I disagree with them or how they go about relaying their information. I have informed them many times that some of their activities (or encouragement of said activities) edge very close to overstepping legal boundaries. Sometimes, they actually do, in my opinion. That said, they are adults and should be treated as such, even when I (or you, or anyone else) do not agree with them. If their opinions are not actionable under the law, they have the right to make them, and we have the option of replying to them.

Do I support the DD board? Not financially, and I do not encourage others to post, read, or avoid the site. However, I post under my own name, offer my own opinions, do not delve into the personal lives of others as I would not appreciate it done to me, and try to play devils advocate when necessary. For this I cannot, and will not, apologize. Joe Pilchesky and I have disagreed vehemently on many issues, yet he continues to allow me to post. You would have to ask him the criteria he uses for booting people. If I have not been thrown off the board for some of my objections, I cannot imagine what would result in said action concerning someone else.

Your first five concerns are certainly valid, and I am on record at various points on the site objecting to them. But as to the sixth, what is hate speech? If it concerns the first five (or related) topics, then I would have to agree with you. It does encourage hate. However, many people confuse the term hate speech with speech I disagree with. I do not believe it is hate speech to point out when a politician promises one thing and does another solely for their own benefit or without any valid reason. I do not believe it is hate speech to highlight a speaking policy which many feel is patently unfair. I do not believe it is hate speech to point out that a county official is signing contracts and entering into leases which benefit his political supporters more than the taxpayers in general.

The response to DohertyDeceit was named PilcheskyDeceit, which also cannot be regarded as neutral. I suppose it has become too much to ask for a more balanced political board, since political nastiness has been around since the 1700s. But in all fairness, DD has been providing more in-depth coverage of the local political scene, along with some stories that are posted on the site before they make it to the newspaper. One does not have to agree with Joe Pilchesky to admit this. I treat the site as a forum. My opinions are my own, including when I disagree with the opinions of others. I have always badgered Joe into allowing posting of pro- and anti-Doherty comments, in order to provide a more balanced discussion. But in the end, it is his board. He makes the decisions, and admittedly, he has never lied to me as to where he stands.

I do have an issue concerning your request to dissent in a manner befitting the elected official that I desire to be. You gave me an or option, meaning one answer is automatically right and one is wrong, based on your views and feelings. I believe the proper word is and, if I can promote a healthy discussion on the website without pandering to those who wish to destroy rather than discuss. My campaign has been based solely on a two-pronged issue: Has the current county controller been meeting his responsibilities, and if not, is the tax collector a qualified replacement? My answer to both questions is a resounding no, but if you have been following my campaign, you will notice that I have never once brought anyones personal life into the mix. I do not encourage it, and I will never participate in anything even remotely resembling a smear campaign. But, I would like to know where you stand on the county controller race, and more importantly, why. It may be revealing to both of us.

I hope this helps. If you have any further questions, please let me know. Id be happy to answer.

GC



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Good response from Glen.

That said, I'd prefer my elected (or people running for office ) to stay away from political message boards.

I think he dodges the hate speech question a bit - we all know exactly what it is and can find much of it on that site.

All in all, he appears to be a well balanced, thoughtful person.

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Personally, I am surprised that you received any reply, let alone a reply which seems to be written by Glenn himself and not some hack political speehwriter.

I don't know Glenn on a personal basis, but a professional level. I am proud to say I cast my vote in his favor.

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For the record, here is my reply...sorry, I didn't have the time to post it this morning.

rom: Steve G. [mailto:steve_g1964@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:31 AM
To: glenncashuric@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Reply

Attorney Cashuric,

I appreciate your taking the time out of your schedule to respond to my
email in such a detailed manner.

I understand the points you have made about participating at the Pilchesky
message board, and since I've not read each and every one of your postings
there (I am not a member so I can not view posting history by individual), I
will take your at your word that you have offered dissenting opinions. I
personally believe in taking a reasonable approach to differences of
opinion, a tact that is rarely employed at the Pilchesky board.

I would like to offer three points of my own in response to comments you
made:

Hate Speech vs. Objectionable Speech - I fully understand that objecting to
the actions of a politician, even in the most strident of terms, is not hate
speech. However, relative to the Pilchesky board I point you to the
postings of 'Antisystemicmovements', who, among other things, has posted
routinely about how people of Irish Catholic decent "care more about their
property values than their children". This particular individual has also
made questionable posting about Jewish people. As a matter of personal
understanding, I subject questionable postings to what I refer to as the
'substitution' test: namely if I substituted the words 'Irish Catholic' in
a posting for, say, 'African American', would a reasonable person find that
posting objectionable? You can be the judge for yourself, but in the case
of Antisystemicmovements postings, the answer is clearly yes.

PilcheskyDeceit Board - You can be the judge yourself as to whether or not
the PilcheskyDeceit board offers a more balanced media for political debate.
However I will say this: at PilchekyDeceit I can criticize both Mayor
Doherty and Janet Evans and not get banned. The same is not true at the
Pilchesky board. Here is a link to the site...

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=100321&subForumID=320112&
amp;p=2&a=20&commentID=9467987

Proper Dissent - I stand by my original assertion that someone who strives
to an elected office must be beyond reproach in terms of conduct, and an
association with the Pilchesky message board is not (in my opinion) in
complete agreement with that standard. I do, however, respect your right to
post there, especially given that you use your actual name*, so I will leave
this point filed under the category of 'agree to disagree'.

(*) To answer the obvious question, I post under a pseudonym at the
PilcheskyDeceit website out of a fear of reprisal on the part of some of the
more militant members of the Pilchesky message board, including Joe
Pilchesky himself (who has threatened to sue the moderator of
PilcheskyDeceit).

I will not take up any more of your time, but again I would like to thank
you for the detailed response. I am not a fan of Controller Mellow, so who
knows, you may have gotten yourself another vote (although I hope you don't
have to work this hard for every one).

Best Regards & Good Luck,
Steve [editied for my safety] (aka Agamemnon)


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The one thing I'm confused about is why Glenn ran as a Democrat. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he was a Republican.

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Paul wrote:

DD sure does take up a whole lot of space and time to say as little as they do, don't they?



Paul maybe I'm wrong for this but I don't really count their opinion as being worth much ... and yes they do take up a hell of a lot of space to say absolutely nothing! But what I really meant was this ... usually there is a political rally every night of the week ... usually I'm getting flyers and tickets through the mail ... and this time out I believe that I only received tickets to one rally via mail ... I haven't seen candidates slamming on each other on the television ever 10 minutes ... which is good ... that's what I meant by things are pretty quiet.



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