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I'm just curious as to the opinions over here.  My view is a narrow Liz Randol win, but she really is tied directly to the mayor, who (along with the blonde) is outrageously unpopular.

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Randol. Margin doesn't matter. Courtright's handicap isn't his silence or percieved lack of intelligence or whatever his bashers across the hall attribute it to; it's the fact that he was involved in city government for the last several years, and served on council during Doherty's term. Randol is a fresh face (in that she's never been elected here before, or held office here) and that's my take on what people want. The people who had/have been charged to make a difference have flat out failed in sometimes spectacular and embarassing fashion. Time to try something else. If it doesn't work, will it really be any worse than what hasn't worked to this point?

Lisi has been where? Gary just comes across as an interfering knowitall who posts too much to comment sections.

DD plays no impact one way or the other in any election, no matter how much Joe and the other five want to believe they do. Shadow and Lumpy (in his past and future incarnations) come across as ignorant fools who simply cannot be taken seriously, if they ever were. They're posting to themselves to the amusement of everyone else. THey don't even talk good games. Empty promises and idle threats. Ho hum.

Joe can play prognosticator all day long and twice on Sundays, but he's just throwing darts and selling it to his bottomfeeders as insight. Blind squirrels find nuts too, but it seems they've been finding them more frequently than Joe has.

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Basically agreed with Paul.  Randol by a slim margin for the following reasons:

  • Courtright has a record and is considered as having helped make (at worst)...or...not helped solve (at best) Scranton's problems.
  • Joe & his toadies have it right when they talk about Courtright having the stink of municipal unions all over him.
  • Courtright doesn't seem to have any stands on any issues; what's more you can't even tell where to look for his non-stands.  Randol at least has a website were you can actual read her vague solutions.  Given a choice between "no-substance" and "no-substance but good packaging" I'd say "no-substance but good packaging" wins.
  • Some people (professional women mainly) seem genuinely excited about Randol's campaign.  I don't know of anyone who is excited about Courtright's.  Least of all Bill Courtright.  Except "the Shadow"...and it doesn't count.

On the Republican side...well...forget it...there might as well not even be Republicans running.



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My 301 round will be better than Dead-Eye's over there.

Mayor: Randol, Lewis

Council: Rogan, Wechsler, Gaughan

Tax Collector: Fox

School Board: Douaihy, Hartman, Borthwick, Timlin, McAndrew

Sheriff: Mazzoni, Manetti

Wills: Nardozzi

 

 



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Isn't democracy wonderful? The candidate chosen by the majority will win the election, and should my vote not be the one to decide the outcome, I will still wake up on the morning of May 22 feeling no less the person who participated the day before. Life will go on, and it will be what we make it not what some egotistical fool in Green Ridge tells us it will be.

The six posters on the other board carry on like it's a matter of life and death, complete with incorrect and misinformed allusions, hyperbolic rhetoric, empty threats, and baseless insults.

It's really quite pathetic. Pilchesky is not a political activist, he's a troll who paid for a blog. He can go screw.



-- Edited by Paul on Wednesday 10th of April 2013 10:23:42 AM

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Nothing for the judicial race?  I'm really not sure on Fox winning tax collector but I can see the rest.  I thought Perry would have a good chance to edge Wechsler in the council race except he is forgetting to campaign.

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Now there we disagree completely.  I think it is between Rieder and Gibbons with Rieder having a slight edge.  I don't think Alyce has any strength beyond the city limits.

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While I have no idea who will win the Mayoral race  ( the circles I travel in think it's Courtright), I can't understand why anone would vote for Randol.

Kane dumped her because of her bizarre behavior, and the lost gun incident showed not only her lack of candor, but her irresponsibility.

Now she's been seen riding around Scranton with a certain police officer who took a demotion because of an ongoing "relationship" with a prostitute.   I don't know how voters in Scranton could settle for someone with those judgement skills.

 



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I think it will probably be Randell also. I agree with Glenn about Farrell I am hearing people chat and they do not like her.



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Still waiting on anything resembling even a wisp of vision from either of the two mayoral candidates.  The people of Scranton deserve better.

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You said on DD that "Doug Miller collapses into last place."  Since my wit and snark is not welcome on shtforbrains' board, I'll ask here.

How does one collapse into a position they had been in since the very beginning?  Did you at some point have Miller finishing anywhere but in last place?

And since you know who he is, could you maybe suggest that The Shadow dial down the insanity on the Courtright by 15 nonsense.  He's carrying on like a jilted 7th grader.

 



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You buying any of the tax office stuff? Seems like nothing more than throwing shiit against the wall to see if it sticks.   Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing, as it were.  A year ago, Courtright was doing absolutely no wrong in anyone of their eyes. Now, suddenly, this?  Incredible and desperate.  So Joe's panties are in a bunch about something Bill did or didn't do.  Who fcking cares?  Who is Joe anyway?  An impotent little troll with a blog.   Oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Make wild unfounded accusations first, maybe provide rationale and evidence later. They're no better than terrorists.



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Doug Miller was actually going door to door and making an attempt to connect.  A few of the candidates are doing absolutely nothing.  Thus, I thought LapDoug had a chance to sneak a few hundred votes where he didn't have them at the start.  Now I think he is past the point of no return for at least two decades.  The Shadow?  Doesn't matter.  Courtright is in deep trouble (though not to the extent certain other "jilted" folks would like) and if there is even a hint of impropriety at the tax office, he is finished and Liz gets one term.

My focus is on eliminating the row offices.

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Glenn Cashuric wrote:

Still waiting on anything resembling even a wisp of vision from either of the two mayoral candidates.  The people of Scranton deserve better.

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Told you a long time ago Glenn....when you have psycho’s like baldy across the hall....foaming Fay (who is very likely to show up on your doorstep if she hates you and she pretty much hates everyone), Crazy Dave,  the legion of doom....the garbage sifters...ect ect ect....who in their right mind would run? …. Only the ones who don't care about their good names and those are the bottom of the barrel.  Sooooooo as I suggested 5 years ago we have no one of worth willing to deal with the fools and psycho's the recent political climate has fostered. Sorry to say Glenn but you had a part in that by supporting the craziness.



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I think Courtright is doing a perfectly adequate job as tax collector.  My only concern is that Frank Joyce stated the accounts are still not separated.  That never ends well.

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P.S.  Foaming Fay?  Oh, you mean Gaff...



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My point. You buying it? Wasn't an issue or concern at any point prior to very recently, during an election for the office. If it's true, no one thought to question it sooner? If false, par for the course I suppose.

Also, if certification not necessary, just another made up issue brought up by fools too stupid to question it sooner.

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Glenn Cashuric wrote:

I think Courtright is doing a perfectly adequate job as tax collector.  My only concern is that Frank Joyce stated the accounts are still not separated.  That never ends well.

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P.S.  Foaming Fay?  Oh, you mean Gaff...


 I mean Miss Clairol's little sycophant and mouth piece when Daveyboy isn't around to do the Queen's bidding.... Franus



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Reminds me of the time when 'ole Fay was reading a statement at a konsil meeting while Pilchesky was standing directly behind her, practically working her like she was some kind of bizzaro-Muppet.

Regarding Young Mr Miller, well I'd be careful what you all say about him, as apparently he has "lawyers".  Maybe they work for the same firm that represented Ray Lyman?

 



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Amazing how somebody needs "his lawyers" for an unpaid traffic ticket.  Dummy.  But worry not.  LapDoug is a public figure.  That gives me pretty wide latitude.

GC

P.S.  Whatever happened to Ray Lyman?  Or the guy in the gold pajamas?  Or the woman who sang and prayed?  We hardly knew ye, folks.



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Glenn Cashuric wrote:

Doug Miller was actually going door to door and making an attempt to connect.  A few of the candidates are doing absolutely nothing.  Thus, I thought LapDoug had a chance to sneak a few hundred votes where he didn't have them at the start.  Now I think he is past the point of no return for at least two decades.  The Shadow?  Doesn't matter.  Courtright is in deep trouble (though not to the extent certain other "jilted" folks would like) and if there is even a hint of impropriety at the tax office, he is finished and Liz gets one term.

My focus is on eliminating the row offices.

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 If Liz  manages to get elected, I'd be surprised if she makes it a full term.  I witnessed her in public on more than one occassion where she was "over served."   (I'm putting it kindly)  The rumor was Liz was stumbling when she left a local watering hole and lost...er, misplaced her gun.  But then she managed to remember ( a year later) she loaned her gun for cleaning, dispelling all those nasty rumors.   Ah, the gift of hindsight and a large war chest.   



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Glenn Cashuric wrote:

Amazing how somebody needs "his lawyers" for an unpaid traffic ticket.  Dummy.  But worry not.  LapDoug is a public figure.  That gives me pretty wide latitude.

GC

P.S.  Whatever happened to Ray Lyman?  Or the guy in the gold pajamas?  Or the woman who sang and prayed?  We hardly knew ye, folks.


Or Jimmy Stucker (sp?), the guy who always knew the happenings on Parrott Avenue.  Alas, the good ole days, you know, when the loonies were speaking to konsil, as opposed to speaking from konsil.  And so I digress.

As for young Mr Miller, well he is an after-thought.  He is to politics as the coccyx is to human anatomy.  He is leg number 83 on a millipede.  He is a comb in Joe Pilchesky's medicine cabinet.  He simply doesn't matter.  In fact, as "mean" as this sounds, this is probably more publicity than he actually deserves to get.

 



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Its too bad for Doug that he changes directions more often than a butterfly on a windy day.  He is somewhat articulate, and is energetic about local politics.  Unfortunately, he is arrogant, and has been manipulated since his days on "Junior Council."  If he followed his own thoughts, he might be okay.  But his council speeches are rehearsed, and he lacks any confidence away form the podium.  Speaking to him in public, he might as well, be background noise.   



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The separating of the account should have started the moment that Kenny McD left office and the issue was raised.  The fact that it hasn't been done means that Courtright simply didn't want to do it or didn't know he had to do it.  Either rationale is troubling, at best.  The loss of staff excuse is really not much of an excuse:  He had the staff when he took office, before some of the work was outsourced to Berkheimer; what's more, he could have approached the governing bodies with an estimate of the costs to separate the accounts and asked for their input/support.  Again, he didn't.  The issue is surfacing now because Courtright didn't surface it before...a bad political and policy mistake on his part.  Courtright gave this issue to the Scranton Times and the the Randol campaign.

As for the solictor, let's all be intellectually honest here:  it's just another excuse to give another prominent local lawyer some vacation (or Scranton Prep tuition) money. I can't fault Courtright for simply continuing a tradition of government paychecks to those who probably don't really need it.

The above is in no way to disrespect the late Attorny Mark Walsh.  I met Mark on several occasions and he was exactly as everyone describes:  a genuinely stand-up guy who never let others drag him down to their level.

Am I touting Liz Randol here?  No.  She has her own set of issues, but that's for another time.

Lastly, newsflash:  The Scranton Times is biased!  And so is every other journalistic entity on the planet.  Are theey influential?  Sure, but so are the municipal unions, so are countless local party officials and the list goes on.

 



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With the Scranton mayoral primary a little over three weeks away, the Scranton Times has declared ts time for an all out assault on Courtright.  He's continued the practice of co-mingling funds, even though the office lost 8 employees.  He's decided to hire his own solicitor to replace Mark Walsh (great guy by the way) because according to Courtright, the practice was adopted decades ago.

It doesn't sound like much of a big deal really.  Except the Times headlins show Courtright, with the caption, "Tax office flouts law."  Obviously, the power structure in Green Ridge hasn't changed.



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The separating of the account should have started the moment that Kenny McD left office and the issue was raised. 

And that could be done how exactly?  There hasn't been an actual "forensic audit" done in years at the single tax office.  The reason it hasn't been done it is extremely costly, several million dollars by most standards.  Without a true, in depth forensic line by line audit, there is no way to seperate monies into seperate accounts.   The current scenario isn't the best, but with 8 fewer employees, and budget cuts from Chris Doherty, Courtright was hamstrung from the moment he took over.

Chris Doherty had an axe to grind with Courtright, because Courtright wouldn't vacate his council seat until after the new council majority took over, thereby creating the "supermajority" in place now in Scranton.

As far as the solicitor position, "let's all be intellectually honest here."  Would anyone really want Paul Kelly as the solicitor for the tax office?  He was a complete screwup at the Parking Authority, and to hear him speak as the solictor for Scranton, he sounds like he rode the short bus to school. 

Finally, of course I recognize that every newspaper is biased, just as every news channel, and internet media site, etc.  However the bold print headline story "Tax office Flouts law" was a clear slam at Courtright, because the REAL woman running for Mayor has close ties with the Lynetts.  It should have been a page three story at best.  I'd cancel my subscrition, but then my source of local news is the fluff pieces on channel 16, or internet based snippets.     

  



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Balko, you said:

"There hasn't been an actual "forensic audit" done in years at the single tax office.  The reason it hasn't been done it is extremely costly, several million dollars by most standards.  Without a true, in depth forensic line by line audit, there is no way to seperate monies into seperate accounts.   The current scenario isn't the best, but with 8 fewer employees, and budget cuts from Chris Doherty, Courtright was hamstrung from the moment he took over."

 

Why then didn't Bill Courtright say this from day 1 of his tenture Balko?  Why didn't he come to Konsil and the SSD Board 6 months into his office and say "I need $# for an audit and to hire ## accountants to straighten out the mess"?  He didn't talk about it on the front end of his tenure, so now he has to defend not talking about it on the back end of his tenture...and now he looks all the worse to boot.  It's a self-inflicted wound, and it doesn't speak well of his ability to think things through.  Bill Courtright didn't create this mess, but he has done nothing...zero...zilch...nada...to remedy it.  His answers in the press on this issue amounts to...

"It's hard, so we didn't do it"

...to which I respond "No $hit Sherlock!".  He sounds like a teenager putting off a term paper.  We get it.  The accounting is a mess.  But Bill Courtright campaigned on fixing the Tax Office mess, and he hasn't.  

As for "Lawyer B is a hack so we need Lawyer C", well Balko I view them all with a healthy dose of cynicism.  The reality...and my central point...is that there is a cadre of the same lawyers around who do government work like this, earning spending money from us.  In a perfect world I'd like to see fewer lawyers all around, but then again this is Scranton, where lawyering is at the top of the socio-economic food chain.  

Lastly, The Scranton Times should have been holding Courtright's feet to the fire on the co-mingling from day one of this tenture.  The fact that they didn't...knowing full well like the rest of us that he wanted to run for Mayor anyway...stinks of opportunistic journalism. Then again, consider the source.



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I agree with everything you said.  Courtright should have complained openly and loudly.  For a karate practitioner, he lacks assertiveness.  That makes him "the devil we know."   Liz Randol has bounced from job to job and has a questionable background.  Since she is fairly new to the political scene, she's the "devil we don't know."  Which is better for Scranton?

From my own standpoint, neither has the strength to do what needs to be done in Scranton, or if they do, they lack the guts to say so.  Lots of tip toeing and very little substance from either. 

A real leader would ask Public Safety unions to renegotiate their contracts, privitize garbage collection, meet with the U of S, Marywood, Johnson and Lackawanna College, and the Commonwealth Medical College and negotiate realistic contributions, sell several SPA garages to pay down debt, dismantle all the authorities (Sewer, Parking, Redevelopment; am I missing any?) to curtail the bureaucracy and lower overall costs, lower the wage tax, effectively draft a .05% commuter tax and create a realistic capitol improvement plan for roads and streets.

But hey, that will piss off unions, commuters, and dozens with political hack jobs, so no one will suggest it, and moreover, no one will implement it. 

I guess for my money I'm stuck with the devil I know....    

  



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I may have been wrong about mayoral candidate, but at least I wasn't so arrogant to dismiss those who disagreed with a foolish "Liz by 15".

Has Joe ever come remotely close yet? What did he claim Mayor DiBileo's margin of victory would be again? Oh, that's right, he lost.

How far was Doherty supposed to fall in the fall that yeat? Oh, yes, I remember now. He was re-elected.

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